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marijuana and leaky gut/autoimmune protocol

Commented on April 18, 2015
Created November 20, 2012 at 4:51 PM

So, as far as I understand the reason alcohol isn't allowed at all on the autoimmune protocol has a lot to do with its effect on gut permeability. I haven't been able to find any mention of whether or not marijuana has any effect on the gut or has any other effects that would set back someone trying to heal with the autoimmune protocol. Anyone know of any articles that might help answer whether smoking pot will negatively effect gut healing? (Or if it might have a positive effect?)

Thanks!

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on June 17, 2013
at 03:51 AM

shut up .

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on January 29, 2013
at 11:26 PM

yerp look out for the munchies especially if you aren't a seasoned smoker. that's the only way i can see weed negatively affecting the gut. just make sure your house is munchie proof by getting rid of all the crap in the house.

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on November 20, 2012
at 05:17 PM

There is plenty of anecdotal evidence that marijuana is beneficial for those suffering from IBS and Crohn's. However, due to marijuana's precarious state of legality right now, it is possible that this is just a widespread rumor to help provide more legitimacy for its therapeutic use.

That being said, I doubt there is any reason that it would negatively affect one's GI health. Also, it seems like a fairly paleo-friendly activity to me- after all, the African Bushmen and Hadza seem to make liberal use of it.

To really figure out though, you should try systematic elimination and reintroduction.

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on January 29, 2013
at 10:47 PM

Never seemed to bother my stomach/digestion.

What REALLY bothers my digestion is the massive amount of non-Paleo Mexican food I tend to consume after smoking. Whoops.

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on November 21, 2012
at 12:46 AM

According to Peter Tosh:

"It's good for the flu

It's good for asthma

Good for tuberculosis

Even umara composis"

Certainly seems possible that it could help with the belly. Frankly, marijuana is probably a magical gift. Maybe we can all learn to lighten up about it.

By the way, if anyone knows what "umara composis" is, I will be totally impressed. I always thought Tosh was singing "deep vein thrombosis."

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on November 20, 2012
at 05:13 PM

I can't see any reason why smoking something would have an affect on intestinal lining. Just make sure you eat healthfully when/if you get the munchies!

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on January 29, 2013
at 11:26 PM

yerp look out for the munchies especially if you aren't a seasoned smoker. that's the only way i can see weed negatively affecting the gut. just make sure your house is munchie proof by getting rid of all the crap in the house.

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on November 21, 2012
at 06:51 AM

as a medical marijuana patient I'm happy to report that it works great for stomach cramps caused by digestive distress/diarrhea. I find that it even keeps diarrhea at bay. I don't like the edibles since they are hard to dose, differ in strength per brand/maker and can get you actually sick. Yes I have vomited from too much of a THC laced truffle. Was also a very trippy experience, which I could do without for the rest of my life. Use a device that filters the smoke and cools the smoke temperature and you won't have issues with your throat.

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on June 16, 2013
at 10:51 PM

A recently published full clinical trial conducted in Israel demonstrated that smoked cannabis was effective in treating Crohn's. Not all bowel disease is the same, tho, and treatments for Crohn's may not work for ulcerative colitis.

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on January 29, 2013
at 10:43 PM

Here is my first hand experience: Marijuana NEGATIVELY affects the GI tract and the overall body of one with an autoimmune condition.

I had/still have a very leaky gut and a host of problems that came with it (full body eczema, inflammation, fatigue, brain fog, depression, no periods, that a doctor thought I had lupus until he did blood tests)

I used to smoke almost everyday and oftentimes a few times a day medical grade marijuana. Only the best, and through vaporizers. Each time I smoked, I felt an obvious downward drag of my symptoms and stalling of my recovery. Eventually I got serious about wanting to heal from my autoimmune condition and quit. It's been about 3-4 months since I last smoked. Since that time, I did not change my diet or supplements much. The only thing that has changed is the weed.

The difference is quite remarkable. My sleep quality is better, I feel more alert and clear, my flare ups come less often and less severely. I lost belly fat.

Now, I was just like you guys. I was like, how can my friend MJ be bad? It's just a plant and I loooove everything it brings me....and everyone says its good for healing and what not so why is this happening to me?

I think I know why: I have a rudimentary background on Traditional Chinese Medicine and found a compelling explanation there. I think it's compelling because I believe in TCM, I have seen medicine and acupuncture significantly improve my condition. Anyways, pretty much, this is how it goes:

MJ causes "dampness" (http://diamondhead.net/dampness.htm) in the body. Something about it being smoked, and the vapors being in your body and just creating a very damp environment and imbalance in your body that leads to food and other allergies, GI tract problems, etc. This was exactly what I experienced. Also, when I smoked my eczema would always disgustingly weep large amounts of pus. This is a sign of excess dampness in the body. My skin no longer weeps pus when inflared. Dampness can be avoided with things like dairy and mushrooms, which is exactly what the autoimmune paleo protocol tells us to eschew. Also, if you think about mushrooms, how they grow in dark damp places and thrive of that type of moisture, it makes sense that eating it will add to your dampness. And MJ can be very damp if not dried correctly or what not, which is most likely the case with todays weed even if you're getting it from a dispensary.

Secondly, MJ is apparently a "yin" substance. Yin substances are cold and sluggish in nature. When I was smoking, I had little energy and my hands and feet were cold all the time. My GI tract moved slowly. Once I stopped smoking, my blood circulation got better and am no longer cold all the time, even with the advent of winter.

I'm sure there are alot more TCM explanations against MJ use but these are the two which I am most familiar with and have seen firsthand to be true. And like from a very simple standpoint, taking in something that is strong enough to alter your reality, though subtle, is something that your body has to process to get rid of so you can go back to being your good ol' sober self.

Yeah I really miss it, but I want to get better even more...so! Just my 2 cents.

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on April 18, 2015
at 07:24 PM

Thank you for the well-written and thorough exploration of MJ's effects on autoimmune. It is appreciated. -S

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on June 17, 2013
at 03:51 AM

shut up .

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on November 20, 2012
at 05:07 PM

The way any of these autoimmune/gut healing protocols work is that they remove ANYTHING that may possiblly cause problems, let you heal and then you selectively introduce one thing back at a time to see if it's a problem FOR YOU. I would doubt there's any research out there linking marijuana to gut health. so the best thing to do, since you don't know it's effects, is to cut it out with everything else. Then once you're healed go ahead and reintroduce it and see how it affects you.

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