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Please hack my latest labs

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 31, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Been Paleo since the beginning of the year. Got my labs done back 04/14/12 and they had improved over the original labs done last year before going Paleo. I have been pretty strict but I do eat a lot of fruit and probably drink too much beer and other adult beverages.
I know that a lot of people come on here saying that their numbers got worse but I think that is typically in the first few months. Mine got better and then apparently got worse. I don't subscribe to conventional wisdom but I would really appreciate any insight you guys might have on these numbers. My biggest concern is probably the LDL-P (nmol/L) result of 1,305. I am thinking I need to increase my veggie intake in place of some of the fruit and maybe some of the meat?

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Thank you very much for your help.

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on March 09, 2013
at 05:43 PM

Why wouldn't eating grassfed meat with a higher O3 ratio than CAFO have a positive effect on cholesterol?

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on January 20, 2013
at 02:57 PM

Yeah, I don't know. I bet you can get your doctor to use them or I bet they can recommend a doctor in your area.

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on January 19, 2013
at 04:05 PM

Thanks. In poking around their site for just a few minutes, I get the impression that they don't sell labs directly to patients.

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on January 09, 2013
at 04:06 AM

https://www.myhdl.com/hdlportal/

7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

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on January 09, 2013
at 02:44 AM

I really like the presentation of your lab results. What lab did them?

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on November 03, 2012
at 03:02 AM

Maybe less nuts?

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on October 18, 2012
at 07:01 PM

I thought that was the 1305 number above. If not, do you onow what it would be listed under? Thanks.

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on October 16, 2012
at 08:12 PM

Did you measure your small LDL-P? If so what were the results

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on September 18, 2012
at 01:09 PM

I really doubt that pastured as opposed to unpastured meat will have a significant effect on your cholesterol profile. I'm no expert though.

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on September 04, 2012
at 08:21 PM

Thank you very much for taking a look at this. I have gotten more lazy about my diet. I have been eating meat, veggies, fruit and nuts but I have not been vigilant about pastured meats and I have been eating more fruit than veggies. I have also been eating a lot of bacon that I believe to be pastured but maybe they are not telling the truth. I'll work on finding the virgin red palm oil and will take a look at my PUFA intake. Thanks a lot.

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on August 31, 2012
at 11:26 PM

Your elevated ApoB and LDL-P suggests to me a trend towards small, dense (pattern B) LDL. This is a much worse than larger LDL particles (pattern A). Your Lp-PLA2, which is often used to determine vascular inflammation is lower, but still high. This isn't a good, but it's good that it's on a declining trend.

Not knowing the specifics of your diet, my broad recommendation would be to increase LDL protective antioxidants like CoQ10 and vitamin E (but I highly advice against supplementing the latter as a-tocopherol). Virgin red palm oil is rich in both of these nutrients if you can find it. Finally, watching total PUFA intake may also be good.

C4a0c9f9a748f1d3354055bc6d020c7e

(298)

on September 04, 2012
at 08:21 PM

Thank you very much for taking a look at this. I have gotten more lazy about my diet. I have been eating meat, veggies, fruit and nuts but I have not been vigilant about pastured meats and I have been eating more fruit than veggies. I have also been eating a lot of bacon that I believe to be pastured but maybe they are not telling the truth. I'll work on finding the virgin red palm oil and will take a look at my PUFA intake. Thanks a lot.

4fce8590b5453d379dddeaa649955eb9

(173)

on September 18, 2012
at 01:09 PM

I really doubt that pastured as opposed to unpastured meat will have a significant effect on your cholesterol profile. I'm no expert though.

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(379)

on November 03, 2012
at 03:02 AM

Maybe less nuts?

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on November 17, 2012
at 04:11 AM

You're another person focusing too much on cholesterol numbers way too soon after starting your diet. How long were you on your diet before the test? 4 months? How much change do you think will show in a 4 month old diet regimen?

Looking at your prior results, you were clearly low-carbing. I don't know what you mean when you say u been Paleo since beginning of year, but prior to that, you were VLCing, weren't you? I'd wait a full year before your numbers stabilize. It's a waste of money to do a VAP or NMR test 4 months after. Save that for your anniversary. I'd not be so alarmed by the rise in LDL-P and Apo B, for it may be temporary as your overall particle size increases ... though the # of particles should stay the same or decrease. But it's too hard to tell if you're losing weight or if you're in the process of lowering your inflammation. CRP does often increase initially when you VLC; it might have decreased if you may have gone whole foods and upped your carbs.

As for grass-fed vs. grain, good if you do it but has ZERO EFFECT on your cholesterol numbers. Perhaps some bearing on your CRP but zero effect on any cholesterol components.

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on March 09, 2013
at 05:43 PM

Why wouldn't eating grassfed meat with a higher O3 ratio than CAFO have a positive effect on cholesterol?

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