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How do I get my autistic 8 yr old eating Paleo?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created September 15, 2011 at 9:40 PM

I have an 8 yr old son that is affected by autism. I feel Paleo would be very beneficial to him but he is quite rigid in his eating habits, though he loves my paleo chili.

Anyone dealt with this? Unfortunately his fave foods are Double cheeseburgers from McDonalds and pizza. He is very addicted to bread and sweets. Or course I know better but he is very volatile and its easier to give in. I realize though that I have to do something more for him. He is getting older, bigger, and stronger.

I've had great success with supplements rather than medications. He was once on 4 and now only on 1 thanks to VitD, magnesium, and Omega3.

Ff5d6fd79983af7b92bfab38b71823fb

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on May 25, 2012
at 08:28 PM

Meatza? How do you make that?

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on October 03, 2011
at 09:03 PM

Bummer...second opinion from another doc?

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on October 03, 2011
at 02:49 PM

His doc isn't going to write me a prescription for a gluten free diet. :(

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 17, 2011
at 02:31 PM

Wow thank you so much! That is good info.

77f83ec328459dce702216709762e202

(571)

on September 16, 2011
at 03:54 AM

I want to say first: you're doing an amazing job. Raising a kid with ASD is no small feat and getting the supplements into him has to be helping. At his cognitive level I'd highly recommend the behaviorist. If he's in an ASD/Special Ed program at school they definitely have one, maybe you could ask for a consult?

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

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on September 16, 2011
at 01:19 AM

Hmmm my brother is in college, I wonder if he can get it off the free databases.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

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on September 16, 2011
at 01:18 AM

thanks. I appreciate it.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 16, 2011
at 01:17 AM

Celiac Disease Presenting as Autism http://jcn.sagepub.com/content/25/1/114.full.pdf+html Same journal, different, perhaps more relevant article. It costs $32 for a one day membership, so I'll let you decide on that one. Is anyone here a member who could share the info?

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 16, 2011
at 01:05 AM

Venus mama, I haven't found the exact study yet, but I found someone else talking about it: "All Celiac children clinically diagnosed with ADHD or their parents report a significant improvement in their behavior and functioning after 6 months on a gluten-free diet."--Dr. Thomas O'Bryan referring to Journal of Attention Disorders, March 2006, 1-5. I also emailed Nora, so maybe she can hook us up directly. I'm gonna keep looking though.

B3e7d1ab5aeb329fe24cca1de1a0b09c

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on September 16, 2011
at 12:54 AM

Just wanted to second you looking into the GAPS diet. The author, I believe, has an autistic son herself and developed the diet with that in mind. The acronym stands for Gut and Psychology Syndrome.

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on September 16, 2011
at 12:27 AM

On this board, there is a lady that brought her daughter back with Vit D3. Her story: http://paleofreedom.com/What_Is_PaleoFreedom_.html Her profile http://paleohacks.com/users/4700/rachel#axzz1Y4O7eEUG Vit D3 has also been very useful in ASD. The Vit D Council is a good source for learning about ASD and Vit D3 http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/health-conditions/neurological-conditions/autism/

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 16, 2011
at 12:04 AM

Premixing may work this winter when coconut oil is more solid. In the south its very soft or even liquid at room temp. Good idea.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 16, 2011
at 12:02 AM

Good idea there on sneaking the coconut oil.

306aa57660d911781231f8090c2a5619

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on September 15, 2011
at 11:54 PM

Premix the coconut oil into the peanut butter while he's not around?

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 15, 2011
at 11:53 PM

I don't know where GAPS stands on the whole nightshade issue, but if he likes chili, you could just serve that as often as possible and get a lot of good stuff into him. I've been using it to sneak bone broth and coconut oil into my sons diet for a few months.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 11:44 PM

I think his doc would be curious. He is very compassionate and easy going. We've got to do something different though. He is so angry and paranoid. He broke a window by headbutting it during the hurricane we had a few weeks ago because the power was out and he was "bored".

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 15, 2011
at 11:25 PM

Could you appeal to your docs inner scientist? I assume people study medicine because they are curious about how the human body works, and I assume he would want to expand his knowledge with an example he can study in person.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 11:11 PM

Yeah he is very aware in what he likes to eat. He would be very happy eating nothing but McDonald's happy meals, Domino's pizza, and Fruit by the Foot over and over. He literally begs for one of them the moment he sees me when I pick him up from after school care. The begging doesn't stop and you can't reason with him. It doesn't bother me to make him mad because he is going to be super mad about something no matter what. If I appease one thing, he simply moves on to being upset about something else.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 11:08 PM

I've talked to his doc about going gluten free but he is old school and thinks it is baloney. He would still probably write me a prescription since he is a sweet old teddy bear type. I will see about that when we go back. Good idea.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 15, 2011
at 11:00 PM

vdh do have a doctor you are working with who can "prescribe" a gluten free diet for your son. I'm guessing you could talk yourself blue in the face, and your ex would just think you are overreacting. Sometimes it takes an authority figure with no emotional baggage to get the message across.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:57 PM

The study mentioned is from Nora Gedgaudas speech at the Ancestral Health symposium. I don't have a link yet, but I'm trying to track it down for you.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:56 PM

I have already started sneaking coconut oil into his peanut butter sandwiches but if he sees me do it, he throws the sandwich away. Not sure how to get more into him.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:55 PM

He may have the cognitive level of a 4 yr old on a good day. Or at least that's what he displays. I know there is far more in there because every now and then he will do great for a week or two and seem almost neurotypical. When his med wears off in the evening he falls apart and is angry and paranoid.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:51 PM

Meatza is a great idea.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:51 PM

Yes I definitely think he will be less volatile if I can get him on a ketogenic paleo diet. I know I have to do it for him. I will find some way though it will be gradual. I did try the gluten free route back when I was out on maternity leave with my youngest. However I didn't know what I do now and bought the processed packaged foods that were awful. I've just got to find some friendly recipes.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

(3209)

on September 15, 2011
at 10:48 PM

I have inattentive type ADHD and no longer need my meds since going Paleo so I'm sure this would benefit. My flaw in this has been looking at my way of eating as my choice and leaving my family out of it due to the fact that I can't control what they eat outside the home. Unfortunately due to school, daycare, going to their Dad's every other weekend, etc that's quite frequent. Their Dad and his family have VERY poor eating habits. This will indeed be a huge effort.

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:47 PM

Zinc too. Zinc insufficiency/deficiency can cause picky eating, limiting food choices and anorexia - both the symptom "anorexia" (low appetite/absence of appetite) and Anorexia Nervosa.

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:46 PM

And not just infants. A couple of two year olds and now an older child as well. Be sure nutrient sufficiency is insured before embarking on such a plan.

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:45 PM

Use caution. Kids do not always start eating when hungry. I've been involved in cases where infants have been content to starve...and now because of a likely significant nutrient deficiency. This is a very real concern for some kids - especially when there are nutrient insufficiencies/deficiencies on board as is likely the case here.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:43 PM

Yes I should put everyone on Paleo at home. I need to figure out some recipes they'll actually roll with and like.

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:43 PM

And the first thing I'd start with is boatloads of coconut oil. Well, ok, not boatloads as it can be pretty laxative for some, but that's where you're likely to get the most bang for your buck. Make sure his D levels are 50-60 ng/ml (or follow cannel's advice for higher) Work up to 4+ T coconut oil per day. Work bone stock in - 2 or so cups per day. This can be done using the less paleo foods as reinforcers. Work on rice, potato, GF bread (Light Tapioca from Ener-G is the best thing going). Start filling him up with the good stuff and there will be less room for the other. Hugs!

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:41 PM

Matt, what positive changes did you see once your cousin went on a ketogenic diet?

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:41 PM

Do you have a link for the ADHD study? I have a family Member I'd like to send that too.

26b7615ef542394102785a67a2786867

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:27 PM

Good luck. This is a big challenge for you and your family. If you can change your son's eating habits for the better though, you all might be helped greatly.

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:27 PM

It's not nearly so clear for an autistic kid as it is for a neurotypical one!! As I am sure you know. Your run of the mill 8-year-old - sure, he'll eat when he's hungry. Kids with different types of brains - there is a real chance they will starve themselves to the point of harm, or harm themselves or others in another way... But, it is not going to hurt your son *for the short term* for you to take a harder line and attempt to make some sweeping changes that he will not be happy about. And it might just work. And you can do it nice and slow. I like the idea of using the junk as motivation..

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:17 PM

If I were home with him all the time, I would draw a hard line. But I work and he goes to school so I think this will have to be more gradual.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:14 PM

I do eat paleo but I'm the only one in my house that does. My fiance does but he doesn't live there.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:10 PM

No I definitely don't think any of you are assholes or insensitive for pointing out what would be a seemingly clear solution. I pointed out autism just to illustrate his rigidness with routine and diet and to point out his volatility. I also realize I've been contributing by allowing his terrible diet to continue. I want to stop that. He also attends public school so I would have to pack him a lunch that he would actually want to eat. Can any of you recommend some good recipes? I would also love to hear from TheQuilt and others on what else I can do as far as supplements go.

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on September 15, 2011
at 09:50 PM

+1 Ketogenic diet

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on September 15, 2011
at 09:48 PM

Keto helped my autistic cousin immensely.

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77f83ec328459dce702216709762e202

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on September 15, 2011
at 09:51 PM

I might not be popular for saying this, but I'd say use the cheeseburgers and pizza as reinforcers for eating well. I don't know what your son's cognitive level is, but I do know that kids on the spectrum often do quite well working for a goal. Eventually you can start fading it... make it a longer and longer time between reinforcers, or try to switch to other things. It may be that if you can get decent exposure to higher quality food he'll feel better and he'll be able to recognize the relationship between his body and the food.

I think that a lot of folks on here have limited exposure to ASD. If your son was 3 years old, I'd say switch him cold turkey. At 8, you'd have a safety issue on your hands. You'll have to go the behavioral route. If you have a good behaviorist on board, see if you can get the behaviorist to create a plan for you to bring in the good food and fade out the bad.

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

(4764)

on September 15, 2011
at 10:47 PM

Zinc too. Zinc insufficiency/deficiency can cause picky eating, limiting food choices and anorexia - both the symptom "anorexia" (low appetite/absence of appetite) and Anorexia Nervosa.

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

(4764)

on September 15, 2011
at 10:43 PM

And the first thing I'd start with is boatloads of coconut oil. Well, ok, not boatloads as it can be pretty laxative for some, but that's where you're likely to get the most bang for your buck. Make sure his D levels are 50-60 ng/ml (or follow cannel's advice for higher) Work up to 4+ T coconut oil per day. Work bone stock in - 2 or so cups per day. This can be done using the less paleo foods as reinforcers. Work on rice, potato, GF bread (Light Tapioca from Ener-G is the best thing going). Start filling him up with the good stuff and there will be less room for the other. Hugs!

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

(3209)

on September 15, 2011
at 10:56 PM

I have already started sneaking coconut oil into his peanut butter sandwiches but if he sees me do it, he throws the sandwich away. Not sure how to get more into him.

306aa57660d911781231f8090c2a5619

(3808)

on September 15, 2011
at 11:54 PM

Premix the coconut oil into the peanut butter while he's not around?

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

(3209)

on September 15, 2011
at 10:55 PM

He may have the cognitive level of a 4 yr old on a good day. Or at least that's what he displays. I know there is far more in there because every now and then he will do great for a week or two and seem almost neurotypical. When his med wears off in the evening he falls apart and is angry and paranoid.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

(3209)

on September 16, 2011
at 12:04 AM

Premixing may work this winter when coconut oil is more solid. In the south its very soft or even liquid at room temp. Good idea.

77f83ec328459dce702216709762e202

(571)

on September 16, 2011
at 03:54 AM

I want to say first: you're doing an amazing job. Raising a kid with ASD is no small feat and getting the supplements into him has to be helping. At his cognitive level I'd highly recommend the behaviorist. If he's in an ASD/Special Ed program at school they definitely have one, maybe you could ask for a consult?

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:08 PM

Gluten-free will help him more than you can imagine, from my research.

YOU are the parent. He needs you to make better choices than he can for himself. His volatility may decrease once you get him off the foods that aren't working for him (wheat & sugar.)

You may also want to research the GAPS diet. Basically Paleo, with a few more restrictions to help heal the gut. Many kids with autism have benefited from this diet.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

(3209)

on September 15, 2011
at 10:51 PM

Yes I definitely think he will be less volatile if I can get him on a ketogenic paleo diet. I know I have to do it for him. I will find some way though it will be gradual. I did try the gluten free route back when I was out on maternity leave with my youngest. However I didn't know what I do now and bought the processed packaged foods that were awful. I've just got to find some friendly recipes.

B3e7d1ab5aeb329fe24cca1de1a0b09c

(5242)

on September 16, 2011
at 12:54 AM

Just wanted to second you looking into the GAPS diet. The author, I believe, has an autistic son herself and developed the diet with that in mind. The acronym stands for Gut and Psychology Syndrome.

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306aa57660d911781231f8090c2a5619

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on September 16, 2011
at 11:56 PM

I live with an autistic teenager. Our household has gradually transitioned to paleo over the past 5 years (starting with her being put on a GFCF diet). She started out on the typical autistic diet, limited to a few carb/dairy heavy foods, and we were concerned at the start about her starving herself if not given what she was willing to eat.

She now quite happily eats ANYTHING. Salads, curries, soups, chili, slabs of meat, eggs in different forms, raw and cooked fruits and vegetables of many types... She likes these things. She requests them. She has not rejected a meal I have made in the past several years. Even disregarding sensitivity issues, it's been an undeniably positive step nutritionally. She's so much physically healthier now than she was when she started!

(It has not, however, been a magical autism cure. We definitely notice behavioral improvement. She's much happier, more cooperative, and aware of other people when eating properly - we can tell when she's been sneaking stuff by her behavior. But she's still autistic, regardless.)

I don't really have any earth-shattering advice. Start with the assumption that he won't starve himself, especially if he's already willing to eat some food that is acceptable. If there are paleo foods he likes, have them available to the greatest extent possible. You may have to make a lot of chili for a while :) Introduce new things gradually, and gradually stop catering to his food preferences (ie. stop having chili available as an option if the dinner you've made is something else). As the addictions are broken, he'll probably be more willing to accept new foods, especially if he learns that he has to eat what he's given.

I won't say that no autistic (or non-autistic) kid will starve themselves rather than eat non-preferred food, but that's a bridge to cross if you come to it, not something to stop the journey before it starts. If you are really worried, focus on GFCF first, and include GFCF processed food, non-gluten grains, and so forth while you work on expanding his diet.

School is definitely the biggest challenge, with all the well-meaning people who give her graham crackers "because they have graham, not wheat", or who don't supervise her well, then call CPS when they see her sneaking a sandwich or yogurt out of a trash can because they don't realize she's autistic and/or assume she must really be hungry because it's not typical "treat" food, or when the art teacher decides they need to do still lives of boston cream pies or that the (high school age) kids can't survive a 20 minute bus ride without a daily snack. (Yes, those are all real-life examples that have happened to us!)

But you can only do what you can. None of that is really caused by the dietary restrictions - it's just that the dietary restrictions make us really aware of how much school can undermine parental nutritional choices!

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 17, 2011
at 02:31 PM

Wow thank you so much! That is good info.

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:29 PM

Those tantrums can beat you down, so I understand giving in to stop them. But I think you might have to brace yourself for some serious tough love here. I was just reading last night that a study with 100+ kids with ADHD had 100% improvement with the removal of wheat from their diets and behavioral issues after 6 weeks. So maybe he could have that burger and you could switch out to a gluten-free bun until the wheat addiction is gone. Maybe he would go for Meatza, the best of both worlds, hamburger and pizza in one! If he is receptive you could try telling it to him straight when he is in a good mood and isn't hungry that there is something in bread that is making his tummy and his head sick, and you want to help him feel better, and that might mean trying some new foods.

It is a lot to ask of yourself emotionally and physically to weather the tantrums alone, definitely get some friends and maybe even professionals on board to get both of you through the withdrawl phase. I don't know where he is on the spectrum, but does he have any hobbies to channel frustration when he can't have what he wants to eat, like hammering nails into a board, stomping on boxes, kicking balls in the back yard? Most boys I've met, autistic or not seem to need an outlet for constructive destruction.

I'm also wondering if you could slowly crowd out the less desirable food as you slowly add in probiotics and NSO's(natural soil organisms), and maybe even L-glutamine (talk to your doc about amino acid therapy though). Does he like coconut oil, that is also supposed to be good for gut healing.

Well done with the supplements too. Keep up the good work!

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:41 PM

Do you have a link for the ADHD study? I have a family Member I'd like to send that too.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 11:08 PM

I've talked to his doc about going gluten free but he is old school and thinks it is baloney. He would still probably write me a prescription since he is a sweet old teddy bear type. I will see about that when we go back. Good idea.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on September 15, 2011
at 11:25 PM

Could you appeal to your docs inner scientist? I assume people study medicine because they are curious about how the human body works, and I assume he would want to expand his knowledge with an example he can study in person.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 16, 2011
at 01:05 AM

Venus mama, I haven't found the exact study yet, but I found someone else talking about it: "All Celiac children clinically diagnosed with ADHD or their parents report a significant improvement in their behavior and functioning after 6 months on a gluten-free diet."--Dr. Thomas O'Bryan referring to Journal of Attention Disorders, March 2006, 1-5. I also emailed Nora, so maybe she can hook us up directly. I'm gonna keep looking though.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 15, 2011
at 11:00 PM

vdh do have a doctor you are working with who can "prescribe" a gluten free diet for your son. I'm guessing you could talk yourself blue in the face, and your ex would just think you are overreacting. Sometimes it takes an authority figure with no emotional baggage to get the message across.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

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on September 16, 2011
at 01:19 AM

Hmmm my brother is in college, I wonder if he can get it off the free databases.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:51 PM

Meatza is a great idea.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:57 PM

The study mentioned is from Nora Gedgaudas speech at the Ancestral Health symposium. I don't have a link yet, but I'm trying to track it down for you.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 11:44 PM

I think his doc would be curious. He is very compassionate and easy going. We've got to do something different though. He is so angry and paranoid. He broke a window by headbutting it during the hurricane we had a few weeks ago because the power was out and he was "bored".

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on September 16, 2011
at 01:17 AM

Celiac Disease Presenting as Autism http://jcn.sagepub.com/content/25/1/114.full.pdf+html Same journal, different, perhaps more relevant article. It costs $32 for a one day membership, so I'll let you decide on that one. Is anyone here a member who could share the info?

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

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on September 16, 2011
at 01:18 AM

thanks. I appreciate it.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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at 10:48 PM

I have inattentive type ADHD and no longer need my meds since going Paleo so I'm sure this would benefit. My flaw in this has been looking at my way of eating as my choice and leaving my family out of it due to the fact that I can't control what they eat outside the home. Unfortunately due to school, daycare, going to their Dad's every other weekend, etc that's quite frequent. Their Dad and his family have VERY poor eating habits. This will indeed be a huge effort.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on October 03, 2011
at 09:03 PM

Bummer...second opinion from another doc?

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on October 03, 2011
at 02:49 PM

His doc isn't going to write me a prescription for a gluten free diet. :(

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:00 PM

I imagine that he is somewhat aware of what he eats and likes to eat. And you probably deal with outside influences at birthday parties, when he is with grandparents, friends, etc. That make things more difficult for you as well as him; him not having what everyone else has is probably hard for him to understand. That said, you will probably have to deal with that for life. But you should really try ease him off of those foods and deal just with the fuss and fight that that brings out. But sooner than later you might notice that type of behavior diminish as he moves away from those toxic foods. Being a mom and seeing his reaction is hard, but not catering to those emotions is what you need to focus on. Don't feel guilty. You will probably see results right away if you can stick to it.

You should eat that way too;)

Good luck.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 10:14 PM

I do eat paleo but I'm the only one in my house that does. My fiance does but he doesn't live there.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

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on September 15, 2011
at 11:11 PM

Yeah he is very aware in what he likes to eat. He would be very happy eating nothing but McDonald's happy meals, Domino's pizza, and Fruit by the Foot over and over. He literally begs for one of them the moment he sees me when I pick him up from after school care. The begging doesn't stop and you can't reason with him. It doesn't bother me to make him mad because he is going to be super mad about something no matter what. If I appease one thing, he simply moves on to being upset about something else.

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58a49b7e6356bd3eaaefed676445b720

on September 15, 2011
at 09:47 PM

I don't have any kids, and I don't mean to sound like an asshole here, but can't you just not give him other options? Put the whole family on Paleo, right? If that's all there is in the house that's all he'll be able to eat. I mean he's 8. It's not like he has money and a car to drive to McDonalds and buy double cheesebugers . . .

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(3209)

on September 15, 2011
at 10:43 PM

Yes I should put everyone on Paleo at home. I need to figure out some recipes they'll actually roll with and like.

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(2246)

on September 15, 2011
at 09:47 PM

When he gets hungry he will eat.

You can try to slowly change him over, or plain and simple you can draw the hard line. He is young enough that he might fight for a while but he is not going to venture out on his own and get the food he thinks he wants.

I'm sure some people think its kind of harse but really, you can either help him or do nothing he may hate you for a while because you will no longer give it to the pizza and doulbe cheese burgers but the addiction will pass.

I've also read that a ketogenic diet has been very beneficial for autism, I have not read really enough on it but you should look into it more, maybe some others have more advice then I do on this topic specifically. As I don't see the problem being that you have a son that has autism, I see it as a problem that you have a son that is addicted to the wrong food.

78972387772c994caa78513a83978437

(2290)

on September 15, 2011
at 09:50 PM

+1 Ketogenic diet

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

(3209)

on September 15, 2011
at 10:17 PM

If I were home with him all the time, I would draw a hard line. But I work and he goes to school so I think this will have to be more gradual.

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(4764)

on September 15, 2011
at 10:45 PM

Use caution. Kids do not always start eating when hungry. I've been involved in cases where infants have been content to starve...and now because of a likely significant nutrient deficiency. This is a very real concern for some kids - especially when there are nutrient insufficiencies/deficiencies on board as is likely the case here.

58a49b7e6356bd3eaaefed676445b720

(352)

on September 15, 2011
at 09:48 PM

Keto helped my autistic cousin immensely.

6229cd9a7ca9882590259fae022e2647

(3209)

on September 15, 2011
at 10:41 PM

Matt, what positive changes did you see once your cousin went on a ketogenic diet?

Eecc48184707bc26bce631485b5b7e34

(4764)

on September 15, 2011
at 10:46 PM

And not just infants. A couple of two year olds and now an older child as well. Be sure nutrient sufficiency is insured before embarking on such a plan.

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3730f0cbe28b72b8ea119157948cfb26

on May 24, 2012
at 12:04 PM

Maybe try the book "eat lik a dinosaur. " THere are lots of fun, kid friendly, paleo recipes. What about meat "cupcakes"? or our family fave "meatza"- pizza toppings on a minced meat base. yum

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(290)

on May 25, 2012
at 08:28 PM

Meatza? How do you make that?

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(290)

on May 24, 2012
at 08:14 AM

I have a 9 year old son with Asperger's. His school calls me constantly about his behavior is sues. I know in my heart that his diet has something to do with his behavior problems, he is very focused on sugary things and has a very limited food palate. I want to change his diet and it is overwhelming to think about for many reasons. I am gearing up, gathering information, I think I am going to try it. If not GAPS, then paleo at the least. All the best!

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(1187)

on September 16, 2011
at 12:18 AM

you're working hard at it. Keep it up. I'd go slow with the changes. there is gluten free pizza, might cost more, but it won't attack his gut. will he try bunless burgers? Extra mayo always makes me happy.

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