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What's your experience with ketosis?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 07, 2012 at 10:54 PM

I was in it for ~3 months. I felt great had tons of energy...was never sore at first. But then i stopped recovering from workouts, got very cold, depressed, hungry, & fatigued. I didn't know what was wrong and went on huge carb binges ultimately gaining back about 15 lbs. I want to try it again with a more controlled carb feedings when I start to get sore.

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on September 08, 2012
at 06:04 PM

From what little I've heard, urinary ketostix can be misleading. If you're burning the ketones for energy and not "wasting" them in your urine, they will indicate a lower level even though you may be producing and using more ketones.

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on September 08, 2012
at 05:02 PM

Pretty much a nightmare for me :)

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at 02:40 AM

haha ..i got pretty thin on ketosis. I felt so good I forgot to realize the fact that I was starting to look like an Ethiopian. I felt like i was eating plenty of food...maybe not.

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on September 08, 2012
at 12:49 AM

this is the same thing that happened when i was anorexic - at first felt energetic and euphoric (a common effect of starvation), then cold, depressed and listless. the body wants to be fed.

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at 12:06 AM

i actually unknowingly went into ketosis so i'm no expert. I'd have to say intense exercise with less than 50 carbs a day will do it. I know urinary ketosis sticks aren't too reliable.

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on September 07, 2012
at 11:28 PM

I was good in keto for a few months as well, then had the same issue. Right now I am very happy around 80g carbs daily, with one higher (around 150) day. I am a high level athlete, and usually do higher carb on days I am training twice per day.

I was also considering re-entering keto for the next 3 weeks before a competition...keep us posted on your progress!

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on September 09, 2012
at 02:18 AM

I have tried keto only twice. First time i was on it for 3-4 months and i was feeling really sharp mentally almost superhuman level. It was as if i had complete control over my mind. Doing my engineering homework was a piece of cake. But it was a love-hate thing. During the day I was really angry and would snap at anything - lost a few friends during those months :(

The second time around I did it for two months and my reason was to achieve the same mental acuity as i had experienced before but instead i was somewhat depressed and the anger was still there. I think it may have something to do with adrenals as to why I didn't feel that 'unlimited energy' the second time.

In my experience keto also lowered my immunity because a fungal infection came back that was gone for more than a year. Added carbs and it went away.

At the end of the day everyone's body is different and experiemntation is the key to figuring out if it works for you. Unfortunately it can be difficult at times especially to your social life.

I personally believe keto is not something to be done permanently, from my experience it just doesnt seem/feel natural to purposely do it indefinitely.

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on September 07, 2012
at 11:54 PM

how do you stay in ketosis ?

I fasted for nearly to days, ran a bit for an hour and was in, but after a meal[green veggies, fish] and breakfast [15g of carbs] 6 hours later on, I am already out of urinary ketosis.

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on September 08, 2012
at 12:06 AM

i actually unknowingly went into ketosis so i'm no expert. I'd have to say intense exercise with less than 50 carbs a day will do it. I know urinary ketosis sticks aren't too reliable.

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on September 08, 2012
at 06:04 PM

From what little I've heard, urinary ketostix can be misleading. If you're burning the ketones for energy and not "wasting" them in your urine, they will indicate a lower level even though you may be producing and using more ketones.

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on September 07, 2012
at 11:45 PM

Always been good. I haven't done it for more than a few months at a time, but I always feel great. I make same progress in the gym, sleep well, and have a noticeable mental boost. I'll probably go back to it soon to switch things up.

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on September 08, 2012
at 05:08 PM

I get more mentally even in ketosis. I'm not lethargic, but I don't feel the need to bounce off the walls either. Atkins was the first treatment that worked for anxiety (and depression) and that was an accidental finding. This may be confounded by the drop in gluten intake. I've not tested whether my mood benefits are from ketosis or from GF.

Ketosis does not seem to affect my appetite to a noticeable degree except that being late for lunch is not agony. I don't lose weight just from reducing carbs anymore. :-(

Oh, my skin is a bit better in ketosis too.

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on September 08, 2012
at 04:47 PM

Ketosis has brought me nothing but good things. Going into ketsis for me is like finally feeling healthy.

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on September 08, 2012
at 06:17 AM

Ketosis without bone broth usually won't work for an extended period.

I drink around 3 cups a day of broth, more on my protein restriction days. It is quite a hassle to constantly be making more, and bones are not easy to get these days, but I'd say it is essential.

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on September 08, 2012
at 04:36 PM

I've had mixed experiences. Initially, going in to ketosis makes me feel very mentally high. However, I wouldn't say it's the kind of razor sharp focus that I hear from anecdotal reports. So for those people it is akin to a natural adderall, but for me it is more akin to a natural cocaine. I suspect the reason is because of my workout volume, which leaves me constantly over-trained ("under-carbed", whatever) and resulting high sympathetic tone (I suspect this is also what ultimately leads to adrenal fatigue if persistent long enough). For me, it takes about 1.5-2 months for my body to catch up, at which point the ability to sustain any kind of intensity beyond 10-15 minutes plummets tremendously. This has 2 effects on me. 1) The performance declines and inability to exercise with sustained intensity makes me depressed, which overrides the mental euphoria I was experiencing. 2) Muscle mass begins to take a toll, which I suspect results in an adverse hormonal scenario, which makes me feel worse. 3) since I'm already lean, losing appreciable muscle mass just makes me look skeletal, and not good, which upsets my self esteem.

So, for me, the simple remedy is to eat a moderate carb, calorie controlled diet that allows me to build/retain muscle and stay lean. That means higher protein, 2-3 servings of fruit per day, and some healthy fats through nuts and olive oil. It just works for me and I am happy where I am at physically. I like small carb refeeds every so often too. I haven't been able to get my hands on Japanese sweet potatoes this summer, so I've been doing things usually when I am out- like sushi...and I also count beer as a starchy carb, even Miller Lite, which has 5grams per 12oz. Anyways, yeah and eating fruit keeps my digestive system working in good order...vegetables alone do not do it for me.

Finally, for me, eating moderate carbs means I'm usually at some point I am out of glycogen, and then forced to use bodyfat (not ketones) for fuel. The way I understand it, is burning ketones and burning fat are two different things, and that actually, burning ketones is the inefficient burning of fats. I'm not a nerd when it comes to chemistry, so I could be mistaken there, but eating ketogenically does have the tendency to shift my body composition slightly away from from muscle and towards fat. If it is healthier in ketosis, then so be it, but my quality of life is not as high, so I just like eating the way I am now a lot better.

OH, and if you lost muscle mass during your stint in ketosis, the fastest way for me to get it back was just to add in a homemade weight gainer shake immediately post workout. Mine consisted of 30-40g waxy maize starch, 1-2tsp honey, 1-2tsp MCT oil, and a 1-2 scoops of the protein of your choice (taken with 150mg r-ALA, 50mg coq10 ubiquinol, and vitamin D3). That is my thus far my favorite lean mass gaining concoction. Works good for short periods, then you can just ditch it and go back to your regular routine.

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