I am about to undergo a water fast for approximately 30 days and I was hoping to get some advice on it. I've done water fasts in the past before and my longest one lasted almost 6 days before I broke it by consuming coconut oil. On my 5th day I felt amazing. Everything was vibrant and I was in a state of euphoria. The first few days were pretty harsh though. I am undergoing this 30 day water fast because I have a few conditions that I simply have not been able to improve even through dieting. Some of these conditions include asthma, acne and pain in my chest. I have been preparing myself for this long fast because I know it will be extremely difficult but I do not want to make a mistake and end up dying. I've been eating extremely low carb for nearly a month and it was quite difficult because I always felt tired yet I was always in ketosis. I only want to consume water during the fast with maybe some medium chain triglycerides such as coconut oil sometimes so I don't lose too much muscle mass. I also have to get electrolytes or else it may cause heart arrhythmia ultimately leading to death. How can I obtain these electrolytes without consuming too many carbohydrates? Any other advice is appreciated. I am 17 years old, fairy experienced in fasting, with a very lean/skinny frame.
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on July 08, 2013
at 09:39 AM
I'm curious about the chest pain. Do you have palpitations / arrhythmia or is it more digestive-related? You probably want to look into that. Maybe an ECG/EKG.
Being 17, I would think the acne is hormone related. Not eating for a month is going to load you up with norepinephrine and crash your T3.. This sounds like the opposite of what you would want. I would instead look into meditation, natural soaps / oils, maybe even antibiotics / topical antiseptics. Maybe a saliva hormone test to see if that's what it is, or a staph swab to see what bacteria you have going. Maybe extra vitamin A / Zinc / probiotics.
Having chest pain and worrying about electrolytes / arrhythmia, I tend to think mitral valve prolapse. Adding more adrenaline and not eating well.. probably the opposite of what you would want. I would instead look into magnesium supplements and staying above ketosis.
Asthma.. I know nothing about, though, I don't see a 30 day water fast when you're already very lean / skinny with no energy and worrying about death helping you out in the long run. (Rather, I see it as being damaging in the short run.) I'd work on getting your energy up and chest pain under control, figure out a diet that actually works for you, then, exercise and get some fresh air (HEPA filters.)
I'd ditch the low-carb thing and go PHD, maybe with an elimination approach. For the lack of energy, I'd get a metabolic blood test going with thyroid, iron, and vitamin d.
For the electrolytes, I like organic orange juice. Vitamin C / potassium / delicious.
Basically, figure out why you have these issues.. don't just stop eating carbohydrates or food.
on July 08, 2013
at 10:31 AM
May I ask what made you decide that extended fasting would improve your health?
I ask this since there are a lot of people over the last few years who have written about fasting, its health benefits and optimum methodologies, and yet I have never read anyone who recommends very much more than 24 hours.
Understandably there is purpose in removing offending items in a diet, i.e. autoimmune protocols et al. Also as people have investigated, intermittent fasting is incredibly beneficial, but more is not more, more seems a lot less.
In my mind if the body is dealing with disease, illness or sickness one should be providing everything it needs to heal-itself and removing the items which may be driving the ailment. Just removing the offending items without providing anything in the long run seems to me to be setting yourself up to ride in a kind of nutritional roller-coaster.
I think the question to ask is what purpose and results are you expecting from a long-term fast, and is there any evidence for these with long-term fasting specifically?
on July 08, 2013
at 11:09 PM
Sounds pretty counterproductive to me. You're having chest pains, but instead of going to see a doctor to identify what's going on, you decide to have a 30 day fast instead? Good way to finish yourself off if you really do have heart problems. Protein sparing doesn't mean you don't any muscle mass at all...
on July 08, 2013
at 05:37 PM
I did a 21 water fast and I would highly advise against it, it didn't resolved my health issues and it can be very dangerous. Sincerely
on July 12, 2013
at 05:33 PM
PG you are not full grown. Only adults should do a water fast. If you want to try the 5-2 diet/health method, look it up. The two days of fasting allows for 600 calories (males, females 500 cal), two meals a day-breakfast of eggs and bacon, supper of poached chicken breast on a salad or vegetable. As a youth I would add a tablespoon, 15 g/ml of coconut oil. Your body and brain need the support. As well, coconut oil feeds the brain.
For your heart concerns,(and for all human beings, nonetheless)PG, please listen carefully. Take magnesium supplements throughout the day. Even the elderly need magnesium, not more calcium unless they do not get enough from an unhealthy diet. Magnesium is the "regulator" of the electrolyte world. There are five of them: sodium, potassium, magnesium, calcium and phosphorous. If you have enough magnesium throughout the day, it will regulate the other electrolytes and actually help to pull calcium from where it is being improperly laid down; i.e., it may assist on clearing calcium deposits from the arteries. But most importantly, it keeps the heart regulated. Also, it will prevent potassium from being dumped by the kidneys.(I read where one doctor wrote that if everyone got enough magnesium the hospitals would be cleared. The electrolytes with high amounts of magnesium is immediately given to emergency heart and trauma patients.
You can also make your own electrolyte drink. Add to water magnesium, salt and potassium. I add a little pure cranberry juice or/and pure black cherry juice (about an ounce or two) to the litre/quart, some stevia and mhikl's you uncle :), you have a better version of those dreadful so called electrolyte drinks.Yum. Check on line for how to make magnesium water from Milk of Magnesia and Club Soda (sugar free). You will use about 70-90 ml of your concentrate throughout the day so a little to a litre will do you well. I suspect that like vitamins C it's stored in the intestine wall lining and when overwhelmed will cause the trots that is why you need it in small doses thought the day, at each meal and before bed.
Good luck m'dear. Please check out your doctor for anything like a heart irregularity or pain. Read and study on lone about your health. I would suggest giving 'Walter Last' a good visit. He is a retired naturopath who, once a vegetarian, now includes meat and fat in his diet and most of his work is now free to read. He is not set in his ways.
on July 08, 2013
at 05:38 PM
I WOULD NOT FAST LONGER THAN 10 DAYS. The body will start to eat your organ walls after about 28 days. I myself have only fasted for 25 hours. After the first day the body really gets thrown off. I would not fast more than a week personally if I ever did a long fast.
HOWEVER THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. Be sure to make your own herbal teas daily to keep minerals but not carbs/calories coming in to your cells. These will not affect the fast and only aid detox/healing. I personally recommend wild/organic dandelion, wild/organic raspberry leaf, wild/organic red clover, burdock, fennel, chamomile, ginger, lemongrass. USE THESE HERBS if youre going to fast for longer than a few days. You will need them and appreciate the nutrition they bring you. Best of luck.