I'm in my 3rd week on Paleo. I'm running about 85-90% of pure Paleo. I have eaten no grains, soy, or dairy. I have lost about 100 lbs. pre-Paleo and have about 120 to go. The first week I lost almost 5 lbs. (which for me and at my age is more than I ever lose). Second week I gained 1.25. I figure I'm adjusting so I am cool with that.
My problem is my atrial fibrillation. I have been controlled with medication for several years but since I've gone Paleo I have a lot of episodes and it's starting to impact my daily living abilities. I noticed that the same thing happened when I did Atkins in the past and I had to stop. I asked my cardiologist about it but he said that he wasn't aware of any connection. An NP at the same practice told me that she had heard anecdotal evidence that supported the theory that increased ketone levels may affect AF sufferers. She wasn't sure whether it was the increased ketones or increased proteins.
Has anyone had experience with this issue? I want to forge ahead but this AF is becoming disabling. I can handle introducing some non-gluten grain like millet if I had to, but I don't want to get too off-track. Any words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated.
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on July 12, 2012
at 05:32 AM
Magnesium is highly important and potassium. Check out affibers.org for paleo friendly advice. Eating paleo is highly recommended. I avoid chocolate and coconut (personal triggers). Also get 7.5 hours of sleep a night.
The issue is not Paleo but low carb as Jay mentions. Paleo does not need to be low carb. Go over to affibers.org and post and ask for the protocol doc form Jackie. 20 pages of help.
Drink a low-sodium v8 every day. It will really help. Also they have a better magnesium protocol in the 20 page paper.
on July 12, 2012
at 10:01 PM
What a terrific amount of help you have all offered. I'm SO grateful - especially as I am such a newbie - to have such concrete suggestions. I will admit that I did misunderstand Paleo as low carb - I was doing about 60-80g a day - but I will bring that up to a higher level with Paleo-compatible foods. Will I still be able to lose fat if I go out of ketosis? I think I will need to do that until I can at least better adapt to the changes.
I bought my low-sodium v8 today, am putting spinach in my smoothie in a few minutes (and also berries). I bought some Epsom salts to soak my feet in addition to the supplements I already take (Eric, I am deeply indebted to you for the afibbers link. That 20p protocol is incredibly helpful!). Will have a potato with dinner tonight.
Again, my sincere thanks to you all. I have hope of being able to continue the Paleo way, which is what I truly want to do.
on July 12, 2012
at 05:40 AM
If indeed its electrolytes, and thats something I have also been struggling with while in ketosis (had very occasional rapid heart rates, saw doctor etc), heres something useful I found:
low-carb Paleo-ish foods that contain electrolytes:
Calcium - any dairy, spinach, collard greens, turnip greens, brazil nuts
Potassium: Tomatoes, apricot, kiwi and unsweetened cranberry juice (and also lower amount in spinach), tomato juice, almonds, brazil nuts, brocolli, and less so salmon, trout, tuna, cod. (+ bananas if your not avoiding carbs+ high fructose)
Magnesium: any dairy, spinach, almonds, Brazil nuts, hazelnuts, walnuts, cashews
I found that I expected no problems when I salted everything, ate spinach virtuall every meal, plenty of tomatos with meals almost every day, the odd bit of unsweetened cranberry juice, regular berries , pretty much a cup a day (unlisted but they do have some semi decent level of potassium), tuna, aged cheese, pretty much a little every day and occasional brazil nuts (maybe a small handful 2-3 times a week).
When I stopped eating the spinach, unsweetened cranberry juice and brazil nuts, I started to get problems.
So it seems like spinach is an electrolyte powerhouse, and if your in ketosis, low carb, you should probably IMO make an effort to eat some of the above foods + some added salt.
on July 11, 2012
at 10:42 PM
I'd wager it has to do with the loss of electrolytes that happens in ketosis.
on July 11, 2012
at 09:22 PM
Yes - I've experienced some palpitations - when first going for 24 hours IF, and come to think of it, years ago when I first tried Atkins. I think it is ketone related, but also that it's an adjustment period. I don't get it these days.
The trick is likely to be: Be truer to the faith - you don't say what your 10 - 15% non-paleo might be... if you consume a lot of caffeine, then reduce that and don't have it after mid-afternoon.
Where you need to be really strict is in the grain department, also no seeds or seed oils, and no sugar that doesn't come in the form of natural fruit. No nuts other than macadamia. I think it may be important to sharply reduce your omega 6 intake, and ensure you get adequate seafood.
If you IF - have your last meal around 6pm - my experience was that palpitations tended to happen at night during IF - most especially if my last meal was breakfast - so plunging into ketosis as I retired.
Hope this helps - I'll check for feedback.