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Ketosis, Dairy and Kurt Harris

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Created August 11, 2011 at 3:43 AM

Can ketosis be attained without Dairy? I'm a little confused after reading a lot of Dr. Kurt Harris' stuff. Can anyone clarify, is it just easier with butter and full cream, but can be achieved while still being Paleo?

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on December 22, 2011
at 01:24 PM

Josh-what are your main items that make up your fat? And protein?

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on August 11, 2011
at 06:49 PM

And it can be beef or seafood (although shellfish does have carbs so maybe just fish) if you like. I just like chicken and seem to do a little better getting into ketosis with slightly less fat but that may not be the case for you.

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on August 11, 2011
at 06:48 PM

I would eat to satisfaction. Your hunger will be gone in a few days once ketosis hits. You can back off food volume a little at that point if you want to or it may just happen naturally as the desire to eat is usually greatly diminished in ketosis. Just no carbs until you're in then you can go from there.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on August 11, 2011
at 06:38 PM

So chicken and eggs.... Would you say like 1-2 lbs of chicken per day and approx how many eggs??

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on August 11, 2011
at 06:36 PM

What kind of fats are you eating to make up the larger percent f fat?? Are we talking lots of avocado? Almond butters? Fatty beef? What fats are you guys eating for ketosis? And How much? Thanks

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on August 11, 2011
at 03:06 PM

i have to consume less than 20g of carbs per 24 hours for at least 72 hours to get into ketosis. i hope this improves as my digestive system inproves.

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on August 11, 2011
at 10:12 AM

You don't need to worry about calories. Carb grams is what you want to be looking at. The lower you go the quicker you'll get into ketosis. I'd probably leave off the fruit for awhile, but you can do some veggies, depending how low you want to go.

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on August 11, 2011
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Could someone give a sample day of what would be eaten. Approx calories etc... I'd really like to do this. Would it just be what I'm doing now minus fruit and veggies?

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B14dc4aa1ddefbec3bc09550428ee493

on August 11, 2011
at 04:13 AM

Getting into ketosis isn't about what you eat, it's about what you don't eat: carbs.

B14dc4aa1ddefbec3bc09550428ee493

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on August 11, 2011
at 10:12 AM

You don't need to worry about calories. Carb grams is what you want to be looking at. The lower you go the quicker you'll get into ketosis. I'd probably leave off the fruit for awhile, but you can do some veggies, depending how low you want to go.

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on August 11, 2011
at 03:06 PM

i have to consume less than 20g of carbs per 24 hours for at least 72 hours to get into ketosis. i hope this improves as my digestive system inproves.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on August 11, 2011
at 04:44 AM

Could someone give a sample day of what would be eaten. Approx calories etc... I'd really like to do this. Would it just be what I'm doing now minus fruit and veggies?

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on August 11, 2011
at 06:36 PM

What kind of fats are you eating to make up the larger percent f fat?? Are we talking lots of avocado? Almond butters? Fatty beef? What fats are you guys eating for ketosis? And How much? Thanks

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on August 11, 2011
at 03:48 AM

there are lots of posts about this on here, but the short answer is yes it can absolutely be attained without dairy, and is possibly even easier. Coconut oil definitely helps, here is a great blog about ways t make a diet ketogenic

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=2479

also search on here for ketosis

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on August 11, 2011
at 03:55 AM

I agree with Jeff. You don't need dairy at all and it may even be easier to get there without it.

I actually reach ketosis more quickly with lower fat all meat/eggs. I think it's the calorie restriction that helps me but I'm not sure. If I eat chicken and eggs for two days I'm in. I don't recommend eating that way forever obviously but if you want to get into ketosis quickly meat and eggs exclusively is the way to go.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on August 11, 2011
at 06:38 PM

So chicken and eggs.... Would you say like 1-2 lbs of chicken per day and approx how many eggs??

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on August 11, 2011
at 06:48 PM

I would eat to satisfaction. Your hunger will be gone in a few days once ketosis hits. You can back off food volume a little at that point if you want to or it may just happen naturally as the desire to eat is usually greatly diminished in ketosis. Just no carbs until you're in then you can go from there.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on August 11, 2011
at 06:49 PM

And it can be beef or seafood (although shellfish does have carbs so maybe just fish) if you like. I just like chicken and seem to do a little better getting into ketosis with slightly less fat but that may not be the case for you.

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on August 11, 2011
at 05:20 AM

I am well keto-adapted, I eat mostly protein & fats, very low carb to no carb most days, have been this way for years. I do not drown my food in butter or pour cream over everything. I will have berries with cream on occasion, cream in tea, but ketosis is easy enough to enter into.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on December 22, 2011
at 01:24 PM

Josh-what are your main items that make up your fat? And protein?

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on August 11, 2011
at 06:30 AM

Josh-what are your main items that make up your fat? And protein?

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