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Ketosis breath with carbs?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created January 08, 2011 at 12:21 AM

Let me start by admitting that this may be beyond the scope of this forum, but there are quite a few bright minds on here and I'd like your opinion:

I started noticing many months back that my 3 year old often got strange, sweet smelling, bad breath. After switching to a paleo diet and learning about ketosis, I thought that maybe he wasn't getting enough carbs (whether or not ketosis is good for kids is probably another question I'll ask later). I started giving him more carbs, mainly sweet potato and squashes, but he's always eaten tons of veggies. It keeps happening though, even though he is now eating tons of fruit and (GAPS friendly) veggies.

I saw something online of this being a possible sign of diabetes, and, coupled with the fact that he pees through nighttime diapers and all over the bed about 5x/week, I am a bit concerned.

I have a call in to his Pediatrician, but I am wondering what your thoughts are, dear community.

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on January 11, 2011
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Oh, and he had very little carbs (he was on a meat kick) the night before the test, which I thought was fine, as they said it wouldn't matter.

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on January 11, 2011
at 05:04 AM

Also, if I want to repeat the test at home (we have high deductible health care; I cringe to think what that pee stick will cost us), does anyone know where I can get a urine glucose test?

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on January 11, 2011
at 05:03 AM

Well, the test came back negative, though I don't know how much I trust it and how much it's worth. I am relieved though. A question: his main symptom (other than the breath) is massive pee, which he did not have the night or morning of the test. He had mostly fruit that morning for breakfast (which is very unusual) on the way to and at the Dr.s, because we were out running out the door. Then, about 2 hours later, he had about 45 min-1hr of going to the bathroom and peeing buckets every 15-20 minutes. Would his urine test results be contingent on what he ate?

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on January 08, 2011
at 09:41 AM

Good luck with this! Crossing my fingers for you, though this does sound very suspicious for type 1 DM. Let us know how it goes!

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on January 08, 2011
at 03:07 AM

Good tip. That's the first thing I would do myself.

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on January 08, 2011
at 02:01 AM

TYpe 1 vs. Type 2. Type 2, probably not.

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He has been grain-free for a year, and just recently dairy-free (before that, he was having yogurt and small amounts of raw cheese. I am taking him in for a urine test tomorrow morning, and I'll report back!

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on January 08, 2011
at 12:32 AM

I would definitely have him checked for Type 1 diabetes. I have had several students who are Type 1 diabetics who have the sweet smelling breath and excessive urination. Better safe than sorry. Regardless, the paleo diet is still an excellent diet but if he is not producing insulin at all, then this needs to be addressed. Good luck - hopefully it is nothing but normal ketosis breath!

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on January 08, 2011
at 12:58 AM

Have you tested him with Ketodiastix strips?

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on January 08, 2011
at 03:07 AM

Good tip. That's the first thing I would do myself.

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on January 08, 2011
at 01:28 AM

You mentioned that you are paleo. What is your son eating? Is he grain and dairy free specifically? If not, be aware that early type 1 can be reversed if you're quick. Either way, acute issues are what modern medicine excells at: take him to a doctor soon. If he is paleo, and it is type 1 please post here. I'd like to know if type 1 is possible under those conditions. In any case please keep us updated!

Da4688a27b47c5ffc844e9a009369240

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on January 08, 2011
at 09:41 AM

Good luck with this! Crossing my fingers for you, though this does sound very suspicious for type 1 DM. Let us know how it goes!

9dce97b4c4762a78a577a11585eef8f2

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on January 08, 2011
at 01:44 AM

He has been grain-free for a year, and just recently dairy-free (before that, he was having yogurt and small amounts of raw cheese. I am taking him in for a urine test tomorrow morning, and I'll report back!

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on January 08, 2011
at 12:50 AM

Is it possible to develop Diabetes when someone is on a Paleo Diet?

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

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on January 08, 2011
at 02:01 AM

TYpe 1 vs. Type 2. Type 2, probably not.

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on January 09, 2011
at 12:51 AM

RE; Oraltech Labs, It worked for me, although I will say it's not just do this and "bam your breath is cured" they make you change your entire mouth cleaning habits. So you end up doing it all their way. But in the end it becomes a daily habit. It covers Post Nasal Drip and Tonsil Stones as well thankfully. If you have bad breath you'll know it messes up your whole social life. And I suppose the best thing is they don't make you go out buying "special" products for the rest of your life. Just don't get it and then think you'll do what it says ???now and then??? because it's either all or nothing, and trust me getting rid of my room clearing faecal breath meant I was all in. Alex???s, J. USA.

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