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Ketosis & Amenorrhea

Commented on February 12, 2015
Created February 09, 2013 at 7:15 AM

-I've had amenorrhea for about... 3 1/2 years.

-I did in fact have a ED for a couple of those years. (eh...)

-I'm at a recovered weight (5.1" ... maybe 5.2" - 113lbs - muscular build/medium build - 17 years old).

-Started eating "my paleo" (includes greek yogurt, organic fruits, organic potatoes, a little organic basmati white rice, raw macadamias, occasional almond/coconut flour baked good), but otherwise, have stuck to the meat (mostly grass fed), organic veggies, organic greens, organic Japanese sweet potatoes, omega-3 sources of fat, salmon, tuna, sardines, chicken, coconut milk/unsweetened-flakes/butter... what have you. etc etc.

-I exercise about 3ish times a week, sometimes less. Not much cardio, more "muscle training".

-I think I may be in Ketosis (regardless of my carb intake... even though those "odd" starches I listed are in my diet, I do not "over consume" them).

-I never started my period in between now and... well 3 1/2 years ago, and am afraid Ketosis might be hindering it further.

-Is there a certain amount of calories that also induces Amenorrhea, or is it fat/carb percentages?

Plain and simple: I want my period, what the heck do I have to do to get it back.

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on March 09, 2013
at 09:38 PM

Quilt, could you please expand on this, or perhaps provide something I could read..I am in the same boat. Thanks

68655ec9711d207d69a63ebf96b37573

on February 15, 2013
at 04:20 PM

Jen - that was me in a nutshell, I was in denial about it for months. Eventually for me health>skinny. I needed the extra carbs/pounds to get my period back, my body seems to have quite a distinct "set point" that it really doesn't like falling below. I gave up fighting it in the end, I would love to be 10lbs lighter (as 35-26-38 with E cup boobs and bubble butt looks big and dumpy to me on my 5'1'' frame) but it just requires too much constant calorie restriction and hunger. It's hard to accept, mentally, when you're a young woman and your body wants 5-10 lbs more on it than you do

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on February 12, 2013
at 02:30 AM

Hi Jen, i tend to go with the Paul Jaminet 'perfect health diet' 'rule' on carbs+protein on this. They recommend getting 30-50% of calories from carbs+protein per day (minimum 600 cals, to stave off malnourishment). So that could be 500 cals from carbs and 300 cals from protein for example....& the rest from Fats. This is an average over week, not rigid, so ok to go a bit under one day & over another day.

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on February 12, 2013
at 02:29 AM

Hi Jen, i tend to go with the Paul Jaminet 'perfect health diet' 'rule' on carbs+protein on this. They recommend getting 30-50% off calories from carbs+protein per day (minimum 600 cals, to stave of malnourishment). So that could be 500 cals from carbs and 300 cals from protein for example....& the rest from Fats. This is an average over week, not rigid, so ok to go a bit under one day & over another day.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on February 12, 2013
at 02:29 AM

Hi Jen, i tend to go with the Paul Jaminet 'perfect health diet' 'rule' on carbs+protein on this. They recommend getting 30-50% off calories from carbs+protein per day (minimum 600 cals, to stave of malnourishment). So that could be 500 cals from carbs and 300 cals from protein for example....& the rest from Fats. This is an average over week, not rigid, so ok to go a bit under one day & over another day.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on February 12, 2013
at 12:25 AM

Hi Jen, i tend to go with the Paul Jaminet 'perfect health diet' 'rule' on carbs+protein on this. They recommend getting 30-50% of calories from carbs+protein per day (minimum 600 cals, to stave of malnourishment). So that could be 500 cals from carbs and 300 cals from protein for example....& the rest from Fats. This is an average over week, not rigid, so ok to go a bit under one day & over another day.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on February 12, 2013
at 12:21 AM

Hi Jen, i tend to go with the Paul Jaminet 'perfect health diet' 'rule' on carbs+protein on this. They recommend getting 30-50% of calories from carbs+protein per day (minimum 600 cals, to stave of malnourishment). This is an average over week, not rigid, so ok to go a bit under one day & over another day. So that could be 500 cals from carbs and 300 cals from protein for example....& the rest from Fats.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on February 12, 2013
at 12:09 AM

Hi Jen, i tend to go with the Paul Jaminet 'perfect health diet' 'rule' on carbs+protein on this. They recommend getting 30-50% of calories from carbs+protein per day (minimum 600 cals, to stave off malnourishment). So that could be 500 cals from carbs and 300 cals from protein for example....& the rest from Fats.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on February 11, 2013
at 11:49 PM

Hi Jen, i tend to go with the Paul Jaminet 'perfect health diet' 'rule' on carbs+protein on this. They recommend getting around 800 calories from carbs+protein per day (minimum 600 cals). This is an average over week, not rigid, so ok to go a bit under one day & over another day. So that could be 500 cals from carbs and 300 cals from protein for example...& the rest from Fats.

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on February 11, 2013
at 09:56 PM

In regards to watching GI charts, it doesn't need to be something that becomes obsessive. Just get to know what foods are High GI, and apply portion control. Low and medium GI foods should not be problematic.

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on February 11, 2013
at 09:53 PM

There's no such thing as hormone-free milk. Organic, "hormone-free" milk may be free of rBGH but it still has natural hormones produced by the pregnant cow such as progesterone, estrogen, and testosterone. Biologically, milk is designed to help babies grow. Jen, what you're eating is fine, I believe I already said that though. My only comments were to avoid, or have smaller portions of high GI foods to maintain balance, and to avoid milk products. What worked for me may not work for you though, so just give it some time and make your own adjustments where you see fit. – Healthnut 0 secs ago

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on February 11, 2013
at 09:51 PM

There's no such thing as hormone-free milk. Organic, "hormone-free" milk may be free of rBGH but it still has natural hormones produced by the pregnant cow such as progesterone, estrogen, and testosterone. Biologically, milk is designed to help babies grow. Jen, what you're eating is fine, I believe I already said that though. My only comments were to avoid, or have smaller portions of high GI foods, to maintain balance, and to avoid milk products. What worked for me may not work for you though, so just give it some time and make your own adjustments where you see fit.

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on February 11, 2013
at 01:40 PM

Not at all, Jen. Bad advice all-around from Healthnut. And insulin spikes are not a problem, anyway. It's prolonged raised insulin. Organic, hormone-free dairy is great for promoting fertility.

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on February 11, 2013
at 01:37 PM

And don't be afraid of gaining a little body fat. Women who want to be fertile definitely do NOT want a 6 pack! For example, at age 50, my tiny belly supplies the estrogen I need, so I can avoid HRT, et.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on February 11, 2013
at 01:37 PM

3.5 years? Certainly long enough, but no need to panic at your age, especially since stress will adversely affect your cycle. Relax, do some meditation, follow the above suggestions. Give your body 6 months and then see a good naturopath, if things haven't shifted.

2ebed8797683eeaab992960edd1eba45

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on February 11, 2013
at 04:32 AM

Trust me, I've been to "youreatopia" (and was "following" was she was saying for about a month, but stopped and started paleo instead... my stomach was getting way too big, but I did manage to gain 20lbs), but it just seems "wrong" to be reading it when everything she says is completely contradictory to LC/VLC/Paleo/etc. All food being "safe" is a nice thought, but seeing as to how America's health has declined as our food has increased in "junk" & "processed food", it's very logical to assume that THAT is the reasoning behind our "fall" in health and increase in disease, etc.

2ebed8797683eeaab992960edd1eba45

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on February 11, 2013
at 04:28 AM

I've been adding ghee/coconut oil to my coffee in the morning (which also consists of a little full-fat coconut milk, and a packet of stevia). I try to stick to only 9 1/2oz of coffee, due to the caffeine. Anyway, I've been adding more fat and carbs... but should I be upping protein as well? I feel as if my protein intake is fairly high for a women, and it does get pretty "spendy" when you get to a certain point (grass-fed beef, wild fish, pastured poultry/eggs come at a high price). I try to get a serving at each meal, but should I be doing even more?

2ebed8797683eeaab992960edd1eba45

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on February 11, 2013
at 04:24 AM

Do I really need to start watching GI levels now? Even though my weight seems to maintain at a certain level when I moderate how much I consume (primarily grass-fed meats, wild fish, greens, veggies)? I mean, sure, I eat bananas/berries/sweet potato/rice/white potatoes, but they aren't counted as meals. I even try to "up" my intake of omegas as much as possible... to what degree should I be watching GI charts, if at all?

2ebed8797683eeaab992960edd1eba45

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on February 11, 2013
at 04:21 AM

"being healthy is more important than being skinny" ... good point. I think sometimes I don't want increase my carbs in fear that I'll put on some "extra weight". But I'm starting to think I may need that "extra weight" in order to get my period back. But, you did mention you only gained 2 pounds within a month of high carb/calories... I do in fact, gain weight (fat) on a higher carb diet, but maybe that weight is just what my body needs to function at it's optimum levels? Will this change as I age?

2ebed8797683eeaab992960edd1eba45

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on February 11, 2013
at 04:16 AM

I really think I need to increase my Vitamin D... I keep seeing people mentioning that this could lead to some hormonal imbalances and certainly wouldn't help someone that /is/ trying to get their hormones in check. I've been waiting for my period of awhile, as you see, how many months mark the point as to when I should get /more/ concerned? If that makes sense.

68655ec9711d207d69a63ebf96b37573

on February 10, 2013
at 02:18 PM

Unfortunately a lot of the info out there is about leptin resistance and hypothyroid rather than low leptin and hypothyroid, but I guess low leptin and leptin resistance will have similar effects on the body, as with LR the body "thinks/feels" it is low in leptin

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on February 09, 2013
at 07:00 PM

Healthy carbohydrates (fruit) have a low GI, I never said she should avoid fruit. The only reason why I mentioned avoiding dairy is because it is full of a list of hormones, some of which can interfere with the balance of human hormones. I've had success with doing this. I'm not suggesting she avoid potatoes for weight loss. I'm suggesting that she chooses low or medium GI foods to avoid insulin spikes. Potatoes are a high GI food source. Having a half of a potato or even a small one would be more ideal. This is what my Endocrinologist had me do to balance out my hormones

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on February 09, 2013
at 06:49 PM

I believe I said that she should eat more healthy carbohydrates (fruit). The only reason why I mentioned avoiding dairy is because it is full of a list of hormones, some of which can interfere with the balance of human hormones. I've had success with doing this. I'm not suggesting she avoid potatoes for weight loss. I'm suggesting that she chooses low or medium GI foods to avoid insulin spikes. Potatoes are a high GI food source. Having a half of a potato or even a small one would be more ideal. This is what my Endocrinologist had me do to balance out my hormones.

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on February 09, 2013
at 03:22 PM

Interesting point about insulin/leptin. Off to do more research!

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on February 09, 2013
at 12:25 PM

it is a leptin story and to get your period back you must have control of Prolactin and Dopamine secretion. To get them you need a diet high in electron density. Look at shellfish, crustaceans, and liver as go to foods. You also need to consider Cold thermogenesis and liberal use of MUFAs and MCT's Avoid HIIT like mad until the period returns. We have had many ladies with your problem. Your mitochondria are shot and that is why you are ATP starved. I just wrote about this in EMF 4. Complicated but it is where your answer lies. Good Luck.

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on February 09, 2013
at 09:46 AM

She doesn't have to stop the potatoes, she exercises, and she's not overweight. Tubers/fruits are paleo. She also doesn't need to avoid dairy as long as the dairy is fermented and full fat (and she's not intolerant). In fact, since she didn't list any fermented foods in her diet, having some yogurt is not bad for her. But as you correctly said, she just needs to give it a bit of time for her hormones to settle down. It will take a few months.

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68655ec9711d207d69a63ebf96b37573

on February 09, 2013
at 02:43 PM

Eat more carbs, or eat more calories, or both

I went low cal VLC paleo and lost my period for more than a year. I was on 1200 cals/day, 30g-40g carbs/day. I was gave myself hypothyroidism and my god it was miserable!

I added both more cals and more carbs and my period came back a month later. I gained about 2lbs. I eat about 70g a day now, and my diet looks quite like yours without the rice or potatoes (I eat root veggies and berries) I've not gone back to VLC but higher calories so don't know how well that would work. (Although I also lost my period at 17 for 3 months after I lost a bunch of weight, I was eating high carb at that time)

If you can, get your hormones checked - they will probably show low leptin, low active T3 and highish T4, along with low oestrogen. If this is the case then leptin or aT3 should bring your periods back.

From what I understand, increasing calories alone might not be enough. A lot of the girls on the ketogenic epilepsy diet studies had menstrual problems. The way I understand it, being VLC means that you never spike your insulin, so you never spike your leptin, so your body doesn't know that you're getting enough food, so you get hypothyroidism. You could add more carbs every day or do small carb refeeds every couple of days, I guess.

It's really important for your bone density that you get those periods back! (Although I have to confess that I did not miss mine a jot!) I had to gain a few pounds to get mine back but being healthy is more important than being skinny

Further edit

  • low leptin can be caused BOTH by low body fat (e.g. in althetes and anorexics) and consistently low insulin/no spikes. I think a lot of girls have a 'set point' of bf below which they will stop having periods (mine will stop at about 1000-105lbs on high carb and 110 on low carb)

  • some argue that glucose deficiency inhibits the conversion of t4->t3 in the liver. So technically there might be two mechanisms (low leptin and poor t4->t3 conversion) that contribute to hypothyroidism

68655ec9711d207d69a63ebf96b37573

on February 10, 2013
at 02:18 PM

Unfortunately a lot of the info out there is about leptin resistance and hypothyroid rather than low leptin and hypothyroid, but I guess low leptin and leptin resistance will have similar effects on the body, as with LR the body "thinks/feels" it is low in leptin

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on February 09, 2013
at 03:22 PM

Interesting point about insulin/leptin. Off to do more research!

2ebed8797683eeaab992960edd1eba45

(65)

on February 11, 2013
at 04:21 AM

"being healthy is more important than being skinny" ... good point. I think sometimes I don't want increase my carbs in fear that I'll put on some "extra weight". But I'm starting to think I may need that "extra weight" in order to get my period back. But, you did mention you only gained 2 pounds within a month of high carb/calories... I do in fact, gain weight (fat) on a higher carb diet, but maybe that weight is just what my body needs to function at it's optimum levels? Will this change as I age?

68655ec9711d207d69a63ebf96b37573

on February 15, 2013
at 04:20 PM

Jen - that was me in a nutshell, I was in denial about it for months. Eventually for me health>skinny. I needed the extra carbs/pounds to get my period back, my body seems to have quite a distinct "set point" that it really doesn't like falling below. I gave up fighting it in the end, I would love to be 10lbs lighter (as 35-26-38 with E cup boobs and bubble butt looks big and dumpy to me on my 5'1'' frame) but it just requires too much constant calorie restriction and hunger. It's hard to accept, mentally, when you're a young woman and your body wants 5-10 lbs more on it than you do

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on February 09, 2013
at 10:43 AM

If you are getting enough calories, ketosis shouldn't be an issue, but certainly there is no need for you to limit carbs. The body needs to know that there is sufficient food available, so over-eating for a few months may be sufficient.

If you are eating enough calories, it may be that your body is simply lacking in some micronutrients that are needed to jump start your period.

Get your D3 level tested & sun/supplement to 60-80 ng/ml. D3 is a building block for all of your hormones. Supplement Magnesium chelate, too, since most of us are deficient and it is a co-factor for D3.

Eat nutrient-dense foods (if tolerated) like liver pat??, bone broth, eggs, and hard cheese (like gouda for K2) Full-fat dairy from grassfed sources is especially good for fertility.

Here's a blog post I wrote that may be helpful: http://www.sondrarose.com/optimum-fertility-nutrition

And be patient! Hormones can take months, not weeks to shift.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on February 11, 2013
at 01:37 PM

3.5 years? Certainly long enough, but no need to panic at your age, especially since stress will adversely affect your cycle. Relax, do some meditation, follow the above suggestions. Give your body 6 months and then see a good naturopath, if things haven't shifted.

2ebed8797683eeaab992960edd1eba45

(65)

on February 11, 2013
at 04:16 AM

I really think I need to increase my Vitamin D... I keep seeing people mentioning that this could lead to some hormonal imbalances and certainly wouldn't help someone that /is/ trying to get their hormones in check. I've been waiting for my period of awhile, as you see, how many months mark the point as to when I should get /more/ concerned? If that makes sense.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on February 11, 2013
at 01:37 PM

And don't be afraid of gaining a little body fat. Women who want to be fertile definitely do NOT want a 6 pack! For example, at age 50, my tiny belly supplies the estrogen I need, so I can avoid HRT, et.

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A836f6702c90352ca12130cd734a7ac3

on February 10, 2013
at 11:42 PM

I had the EXACT same problem for almost 4 years (no period). I FINALLY am getting mine back now after gaining up from my lowest 110 (ED years) to 127-130ish. (I'm 5'7). I gained the weight after being vegetarian, vegan, raw food, then VLC, etc. etc. etc. diets by eating tons of junk food (your body needs CALORIES) and also stopped exercising completely. No weights, no running, short walks, etc. (This was one of the hardest parts). I gained a ton of water weight, bloated up real nice, and just chilled for about 2 months. I gave my body everything I craved during my ED and then one day it hit me that I needed to eat healthier. I switched to a Paleo diet, but made sure I kept sweet potatoes, bananas, pumpkin, squash, and other starchy veggies and fruits in my diet so I wouldn't be tempted to be VLC again. When your period stops, it's basically your body telling you 1. too little food 2. too much exercise 3. too much stress in general. Give yourself a break, gain some weight, eat lots of fats and carbs and make your goal to get it back, bc the longer you put it off the harder it gets to do it and the worst your body gets (bone density, fertility issues, sex drive, hair loss, etc.) Do this for yourself! One site that really helped me was youreatopia.com. It's not paleo, per say, but it has a lot of good tips on biting the bullet and get your body the energy and rest it needs to heal properly.

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on February 12, 2015
at 05:14 AM

Can I get your email Address?? I would like to talk to you about your no periods. I'm in the same boat!! Thanks!!

2ebed8797683eeaab992960edd1eba45

(65)

on February 11, 2013
at 04:32 AM

Trust me, I've been to "youreatopia" (and was "following" was she was saying for about a month, but stopped and started paleo instead... my stomach was getting way too big, but I did manage to gain 20lbs), but it just seems "wrong" to be reading it when everything she says is completely contradictory to LC/VLC/Paleo/etc. All food being "safe" is a nice thought, but seeing as to how America's health has declined as our food has increased in "junk" & "processed food", it's very logical to assume that THAT is the reasoning behind our "fall" in health and increase in disease, etc.

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543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on February 09, 2013
at 09:13 AM

You may be under eating, especially carbs and protein, to meet with all your bodies requirements.
From a survival perspective, being able to become pregnant is low on the priority list.

Start with reading the article linked below, which is a bit of a summary, with links off to more detailed articles.

Start here: Very Low-Carb Dieting: Are the Hormonal Changes Risk-free?

Ignore the titles mention of 'very low-carb dieting', the post & the articles linked mention all the nutrients, calorie restriction and the 'Athlete Triad' (& probably a lot more).

best of luck

Edit:
btw, you do not need to be an athlete to have Athlete Triad symptoms.

In case you have never heard of the athlete triad before,
The athlete triad appears most commonly (but not exclusively) in athletes who undereat and overtrain. Symptoms include low energy, amenorrhea in women and low testosterone in men, osteoporosis, reduced cognitive ability, and impaired immune function. The syndrome is surprisingly common, especially in female athletes.
Source: excerpt from post linked above

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on February 11, 2013
at 04:28 AM

I've been adding ghee/coconut oil to my coffee in the morning (which also consists of a little full-fat coconut milk, and a packet of stevia). I try to stick to only 9 1/2oz of coffee, due to the caffeine. Anyway, I've been adding more fat and carbs... but should I be upping protein as well? I feel as if my protein intake is fairly high for a women, and it does get pretty "spendy" when you get to a certain point (grass-fed beef, wild fish, pastured poultry/eggs come at a high price). I try to get a serving at each meal, but should I be doing even more?

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on February 12, 2013
at 02:29 AM

Hi Jen, i tend to go with the Paul Jaminet 'perfect health diet' 'rule' on carbs+protein on this. They recommend getting 30-50% off calories from carbs+protein per day (minimum 600 cals, to stave of malnourishment). So that could be 500 cals from carbs and 300 cals from protein for example....& the rest from Fats. This is an average over week, not rigid, so ok to go a bit under one day & over another day.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on February 12, 2013
at 12:09 AM

Hi Jen, i tend to go with the Paul Jaminet 'perfect health diet' 'rule' on carbs+protein on this. They recommend getting 30-50% of calories from carbs+protein per day (minimum 600 cals, to stave off malnourishment). So that could be 500 cals from carbs and 300 cals from protein for example....& the rest from Fats.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on February 12, 2013
at 12:25 AM

Hi Jen, i tend to go with the Paul Jaminet 'perfect health diet' 'rule' on carbs+protein on this. They recommend getting 30-50% of calories from carbs+protein per day (minimum 600 cals, to stave of malnourishment). So that could be 500 cals from carbs and 300 cals from protein for example....& the rest from Fats. This is an average over week, not rigid, so ok to go a bit under one day & over another day.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on February 12, 2013
at 12:21 AM

Hi Jen, i tend to go with the Paul Jaminet 'perfect health diet' 'rule' on carbs+protein on this. They recommend getting 30-50% of calories from carbs+protein per day (minimum 600 cals, to stave of malnourishment). This is an average over week, not rigid, so ok to go a bit under one day & over another day. So that could be 500 cals from carbs and 300 cals from protein for example....& the rest from Fats.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on February 11, 2013
at 11:49 PM

Hi Jen, i tend to go with the Paul Jaminet 'perfect health diet' 'rule' on carbs+protein on this. They recommend getting around 800 calories from carbs+protein per day (minimum 600 cals). This is an average over week, not rigid, so ok to go a bit under one day & over another day. So that could be 500 cals from carbs and 300 cals from protein for example...& the rest from Fats.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on February 12, 2013
at 02:29 AM

Hi Jen, i tend to go with the Paul Jaminet 'perfect health diet' 'rule' on carbs+protein on this. They recommend getting 30-50% off calories from carbs+protein per day (minimum 600 cals, to stave of malnourishment). So that could be 500 cals from carbs and 300 cals from protein for example....& the rest from Fats. This is an average over week, not rigid, so ok to go a bit under one day & over another day.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on February 12, 2013
at 02:30 AM

Hi Jen, i tend to go with the Paul Jaminet 'perfect health diet' 'rule' on carbs+protein on this. They recommend getting 30-50% of calories from carbs+protein per day (minimum 600 cals, to stave off malnourishment). So that could be 500 cals from carbs and 300 cals from protein for example....& the rest from Fats. This is an average over week, not rigid, so ok to go a bit under one day & over another day.

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Ed6125fbb3e40ed42a03f4053adca7ec

on February 09, 2013
at 08:24 AM

I would give it some time. Keep doing what you're doing, continue to choose foods that have low GI levels, eat more veggies, and avoid dairy. This should help balance out your hormones. I don't think you're going through Ketosis, a lot of the foods you mentioned are healthy carbohydrates. I would avoid the potatoes as they have a very high GI. Google a GI chart for reference.

Ed6125fbb3e40ed42a03f4053adca7ec

(45)

on February 09, 2013
at 07:00 PM

Healthy carbohydrates (fruit) have a low GI, I never said she should avoid fruit. The only reason why I mentioned avoiding dairy is because it is full of a list of hormones, some of which can interfere with the balance of human hormones. I've had success with doing this. I'm not suggesting she avoid potatoes for weight loss. I'm suggesting that she chooses low or medium GI foods to avoid insulin spikes. Potatoes are a high GI food source. Having a half of a potato or even a small one would be more ideal. This is what my Endocrinologist had me do to balance out my hormones

2ebed8797683eeaab992960edd1eba45

(65)

on February 11, 2013
at 04:24 AM

Do I really need to start watching GI levels now? Even though my weight seems to maintain at a certain level when I moderate how much I consume (primarily grass-fed meats, wild fish, greens, veggies)? I mean, sure, I eat bananas/berries/sweet potato/rice/white potatoes, but they aren't counted as meals. I even try to "up" my intake of omegas as much as possible... to what degree should I be watching GI charts, if at all?

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on February 09, 2013
at 09:46 AM

She doesn't have to stop the potatoes, she exercises, and she's not overweight. Tubers/fruits are paleo. She also doesn't need to avoid dairy as long as the dairy is fermented and full fat (and she's not intolerant). In fact, since she didn't list any fermented foods in her diet, having some yogurt is not bad for her. But as you correctly said, she just needs to give it a bit of time for her hormones to settle down. It will take a few months.

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on February 11, 2013
at 01:40 PM

Not at all, Jen. Bad advice all-around from Healthnut. And insulin spikes are not a problem, anyway. It's prolonged raised insulin. Organic, hormone-free dairy is great for promoting fertility.

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on February 09, 2013
at 06:49 PM

I believe I said that she should eat more healthy carbohydrates (fruit). The only reason why I mentioned avoiding dairy is because it is full of a list of hormones, some of which can interfere with the balance of human hormones. I've had success with doing this. I'm not suggesting she avoid potatoes for weight loss. I'm suggesting that she chooses low or medium GI foods to avoid insulin spikes. Potatoes are a high GI food source. Having a half of a potato or even a small one would be more ideal. This is what my Endocrinologist had me do to balance out my hormones.

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on February 11, 2013
at 09:51 PM

There's no such thing as hormone-free milk. Organic, "hormone-free" milk may be free of rBGH but it still has natural hormones produced by the pregnant cow such as progesterone, estrogen, and testosterone. Biologically, milk is designed to help babies grow. Jen, what you're eating is fine, I believe I already said that though. My only comments were to avoid, or have smaller portions of high GI foods, to maintain balance, and to avoid milk products. What worked for me may not work for you though, so just give it some time and make your own adjustments where you see fit.

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on February 11, 2013
at 09:56 PM

In regards to watching GI charts, it doesn't need to be something that becomes obsessive. Just get to know what foods are High GI, and apply portion control. Low and medium GI foods should not be problematic.

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on February 11, 2013
at 09:53 PM

There's no such thing as hormone-free milk. Organic, "hormone-free" milk may be free of rBGH but it still has natural hormones produced by the pregnant cow such as progesterone, estrogen, and testosterone. Biologically, milk is designed to help babies grow. Jen, what you're eating is fine, I believe I already said that though. My only comments were to avoid, or have smaller portions of high GI foods to maintain balance, and to avoid milk products. What worked for me may not work for you though, so just give it some time and make your own adjustments where you see fit. – Healthnut 0 secs ago

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