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Is it ok for a 14-year-old girl to be in ketosis?

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Created October 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM

I've started to eat mostly paleo now, because it makes me feel great (the only non-paleo things I eat moderately are rice and peanut butter) but I'm a bit disappointed, because I thought when I cut gluten, processed food and crappy vegetable oils out of my diet I was supposed to lose weight. I haven't. I'm desperate to. Not only does my weight have a negative impact on my self-esteem, it also affects my sports.

I used to eat porridge for breakfast, now I have 3 eggs scrambled with grass-fed butter and 2 slices of bacon. For lunch I have a chicken/steak/slamon/tuna/turkey salad (with nuts and veggies) and a piece of fruit after. Dinner is usually meat + 3x veg, but the meat is lean and the veggies are steamed because my mom is afraid to but fattier meats and she won't buy coconut oil. Also, if I'm training I'll have rice + meat for dinner. I've been eating like this for two weeks

I'm very active, so I was worried about ketosis and how it'll affect my sports. But then I realised that I'll either be average for a long time, or be shocking for a period then get better, as my diet will be better and I'll be lighter.

However, I have heard that ketosis is dangerous for growing girls. I'm not sure whether that's true or not, that's why I'm asking here. Is it safe?

Considering what I eat now is low-carb compared to the SAD (although you can't really compare the two diets) will I lose weight like this anyway? Or does my meal plan need tweaking? I'd appreciate some help concerning keto meal-plans.

If it isn't ideal, what else can I do to lose weight? I'm sick of my belly, my leg fat and forearm fat. Thanks

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on October 24, 2012
at 06:51 AM

You shouldnt be restricting, it can have negative effects physically on the body when she gets older.

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on October 20, 2012
at 06:30 PM

I don't believe that ketosis is essential for myelination after infancy. I've seen no reference to such an idea in the literature and it makes no biochemical sense, lactate and glucose should be perfectly usable substrates for myelin synthesis.

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on October 18, 2012
at 10:23 PM

Children who have to follow ketogenic diets for epilepsy often do not grow because they are short on nutrients. Focus on getting good foods

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on October 18, 2012
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Whichever way you look at it, ketosis is pretty hardcore. Even as a <25g a day man, I kinda agree with Jaminet that ketosis should only probably be used for those with a specific therapeutical need. There are lots of ways to embrace Paleo without eliminating all carbohydrates.

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on October 17, 2012
at 11:47 PM

Since you're still growing, I think it's wise to make sure you get enough nutrition. Maybe you could change your rice to potatoes, since they're a safer starch than rice? Also it does sound like you might need more fat in your diet. Maybe you could talk to your mom about visiting a naturopath? I also think you should give it more time... a few months at least. :) Good luck~

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on October 17, 2012
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Yes and no. What if her parents are of the mindset that she should be eating whole grains and low fat? When I was 14, that's what my parents would have said to me (it's what they still say, even though I present them with data, others' testimonial, and my own health changes as evidence). But if she can work with her parents to see maybe a naturopath, that might be a good idea.

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on October 17, 2012
at 10:49 PM

That's illogical. What precisely do you think is missing?

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on October 17, 2012
at 08:56 PM

2 weeks....too short to draw any conclusions.

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on October 17, 2012
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Ketogenic diets have been used for epilepsy in young children, and, of course, these young children grow up just fine. Now, let me hasten to add that these diets aren't the low carb diets you tend to find on the internet. Those children get plenty of calories and the diet is much more scientifically formulated to make sure they are getting enough nutrition and a decent amount of ketones.

Unless you get Mom on board, it is probably unwise to try a ketogenic diet. You need more fat. Maybe you could manage more butter and less starch, but whatever you do, you need to make sure you are getting enough nutrition first. I am worried about a situation in which you end up with a nutritional deficiency.

Two weeks is a rather short period of time. It is probably better for you to keep doing what you are doing now, and try to imagine what you might do a month and a half from now. Two months is a better time frame for understanding what is going on than two weeks.

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on October 17, 2012
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At 14 you should talk to your parents.

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on October 18, 2012
at 03:11 AM

Whichever way you look at it, ketosis is pretty hardcore. Even as a <25g a day man, I kinda agree with Jaminet that ketosis should only probably be used for those with a specific therapeutical need. There are lots of ways to embrace Paleo without eliminating all carbohydrates.

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on October 17, 2012
at 11:42 PM

Yes and no. What if her parents are of the mindset that she should be eating whole grains and low fat? When I was 14, that's what my parents would have said to me (it's what they still say, even though I present them with data, others' testimonial, and my own health changes as evidence). But if she can work with her parents to see maybe a naturopath, that might be a good idea.

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on October 17, 2012
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Personally i dont think anyone that young should do anything that restrictive, unless you have some serious health problems. The reason you shouldnt be so restrictive is because your body is still maturing.

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on October 17, 2012
at 10:49 PM

That's illogical. What precisely do you think is missing?

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on October 24, 2012
at 06:51 AM

You shouldnt be restricting, it can have negative effects physically on the body when she gets older.

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on October 18, 2012
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Considering the brain requires ketosis for complete myelination......yes. Why? The brain does not finish myelination until age 25 when the orbitofrontal lobes are completed. This is why kids below 25 cant rent a car or hotel room. Once myelinated here.......impulse control is intact.

I have a blog coming up in the Brain gut series on this process.

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on October 20, 2012
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I don't believe that ketosis is essential for myelination after infancy. I've seen no reference to such an idea in the literature and it makes no biochemical sense, lactate and glucose should be perfectly usable substrates for myelin synthesis.

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on October 17, 2012
at 08:24 PM

I don't see how ketosis would help you or weight loss. However, I could see it harming you, particularly your hormone balance as you are going through puberty. I would definitely not attempt it. The way you are going to lose weight is through caloric deficit, not macronutrient shifts. It sounds like you have only been eating Paleo for two weeks; is that correct? I say give your new Paleo diet time to benefit you. A ketogenic diet might benefit you if you had problems controlling your blood glucose levels or if you had type II diabetes, but since you are interested in losing weight, keep eating Paleo and just try to eat a couple hundred calories less per day than you are used to.

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on October 17, 2012
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As Mike stated above, I think ketosis is too restrictive for your age. Two weeks is not long enough to see changes...the scale is an inaccurate way to measure so don't rely on it. Instead, continue to eat well and try to stay well rested while training and I think you will see a difference in your body composition. Remember muscle weighs more than fat but doesn't mean you will become bulky. Check out this story below if you need proof:

http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/

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