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IF'ing & Ketosis stressing Adrenals & Cortisol = fat storage?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 26, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Very interesting thing that has happened in the last couple weeks..

I've been tweaking things week by week...went Very low Carb..under 15g for a about a week, and was eating frequently..fat and protein every couple hours...i started to lean out a bit. (i'm trying desperately to lose the last 10lbs of fat before spring/summer) Felt GREAT for that week.

Then...started eating a bit more green veg the week after, because i was low in energy...so around 30g carbs and I started IF'in this past week, so i'd pretty much create an eating window... eating between 12noon-9pm..wake up ..fasted workout (low intensity walk, with sprint intervals) and then fat and protein in the 12-9 window..

Noticed a huge change already and not for the better...starting storing fat again, visibly put on some fat..rolly stomach (that was tight and flat during the VLC week) and legs are very fatty again almost immediately in the thighs and hips (where I store)..

Here's my theory...did re-introducing IF cause cortisol stress and put my body in fat store mode rather than fat release mode?

Is this all in my head? ( i won't be offended, i do think i have a distorted hyper awareness when it comes to the feeling of my body)

Thoughts...?

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on March 07, 2012
at 02:28 AM

why do we even want it all.....????!!! Martha Stewart D*MN U.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on March 07, 2012
at 02:26 AM

I got iatrogenic damage from Mirena, a progestin IUD. It gave me 2yrs of hormone issues -- 10 lbs fat gain, acne and b*tchiness despite exercise, supps, hubby-love, EVERYTHING. I felt like those mice we're talking about!! I did the 10-20% CR and IF to combat all of it. Following Schwarzbein fixed the damage and now just dealing/working off the inevitable fat gain (the cure). It's all reversible just kinda pain-staking and getting my *ss pounding the concrete.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on March 07, 2012
at 02:22 AM

Do you read T-nation? Figure athlete material?? http://www.t-nation.com/figureImages.jsp?pageNo=1 The best 'diet' is a paleo figure athlete diet, IMHO. The gals do low-mod cardio + xfit/intervals. The eat ALL DAY, small meals, carbs dispersed, mod-high protein... tons of omega-3 and antioxidants to beat up insulin resistance. (i'm talking the natural ones, not T-amped)

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on March 07, 2012
at 02:19 AM

That's funny -- healthhabits was the first I heard of fat mapping, then I read Dr.Natasha Turner ND on 'The Hormone Diet' which is the most absolute bomb book. Sexxxy and funny. She even does the plan with gluten, the only negative I found about the book (and talks about her mom fighting liver cancer).

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on March 07, 2012
at 02:16 AM

Are you kidding hawwwwt grllll?????! I gotch ur website. I AM GONNA STALK YOU *big wink* You better email ur spunky brain thoughts.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on March 06, 2012
at 03:40 PM

Okay - enough love notes here - I am going to email you any more crap I find about this stuff ... unless I receive a cease and desist order. :)

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on March 06, 2012
at 03:39 PM

I just found that great post you did all about adrenal fatigue and what you've been doing to rest. I heart Schwarzbein. So glad to hear that her protocol worked for you. Your post helped me to see that my immediate weight gain on her plan was not due to the plan being bad, but that my chemicals are screwed. Don't sully your blog with the likes of me! But, did you see this fat mapping thing? http://www.healthhabits.ca/2009/08/12/hormones-problem-areas-and-your-body-fat-map-part-2/ Also, there is hope for us just on this side of the meno - http://www.ergo-log.com/weightlossaftermenopause.html

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on March 06, 2012
at 07:17 AM

*sigh* Meredith, I'll try. I've figured out the 'fat map' but the gender divide evades me a little... we should do a collaborative post!!!! that'd be wicked cool!!! (i was even scarfing chocolate croissants with the big phat wt loss, but now I'm semi perimenopausal + stress and my gut is the SH**TS and working off a few lbs of fat is the same amount of work but motivation for the last few is like semi ZILCHO (other than being a grand de VAIN-Y *haaahaa!*) stress hormones like cortisol can be the end-game determinant for many many folks... Look at all these IF/vlc/xfit #FAILEOS.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on March 05, 2012
at 09:37 PM

Do you have a blog post about this Dr. BG? I would LOVE to see more gender specific regs about this kind of stuff.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on March 05, 2012
at 05:00 AM

I was (trying) to talk to Dan on the PHD blog. http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=5604 Low carb hypocaloric doesn't work for insulin sensitive folks for losing body fat. It is like these rats. I overdid it myself when I got into all the IF'ing hype. Crapped out my adrenals and jacked cortisols too high (then low). Actually I lost the 50# weight eating sprouted wheat toast with peanut butter everyday and small frequent meals and running/biking/swimming/cardio 30-90min 4 days out of the week sprints/wts 20min/week.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on March 05, 2012
at 04:57 AM

Great find on the article -- at all levels including IF the cortisol was raised in the jazzed/starved female rats, EXCEPT the high fat-high glucose... GLucose I think saved their adrenals. There was still adrenal gland hypertrophy (higher wet organ mass compared with controls, signalling some malfunction) but the blood levels were not elevated. I saw that too -- the dude rats didn't get all jazzed up mentally (except until 40% CR).

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on March 05, 2012
at 04:53 AM

Meredith, I agree... we're more sensitive *ha haaah* No seriously I don't understand why we're so d*mn sensitive to energy flux. Yeah cortisol feeds for survival not super fantastic living and longevity... I used to like high octane coffee (Peets if youre in Cali) and loved the appetite suppressing effects but now I can barely drink it because I'm sensitive to the cortisol raising.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on February 27, 2012
at 09:23 PM

http://endo.endojournals.org/content/148/9/4318.full So it's interesting to see just how sensitive the female system is to energy flux - granted this is a dramatic 40% change in energy intake. But the lady rats became masculinized and emaciated, but they also had higher cognitive ability and used up lots of energy moving about. The dude rats didn't change as much, didn't lose as much bodyfat, and didn't get all jazzed up mentally. They think this may be another reason women are more prone to anorexia than men - it's an upper.

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

(4134)

on February 27, 2012
at 01:28 PM

Grace, thank you very much for all this information!

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 04:30 AM

JayJay, No. I don't think dietary cholesterol plays a role like that because internally the hormonal messages are so tightly regulated with their respective feedback controls and levers... Also just to give you an example that there are superior controls like mind and genetics--I think of vegan MMA fighters with obvious high T, like Mac Danzig. OTOH Volek et al did a study and it showed higher T with higher satfat (cholesterol) but he didn't separate out how the carbs affected this. Some of the hormonal consequences of IF are like ketosis, so I suspect it would be similar like the rat study.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on February 27, 2012
at 04:17 AM

Oh! Thanks for that link. I really really would like to see more gender specific about macronutrients, micronutrients, excercise and stuff like fasting. Paleo, thus far, seems to be a man's world.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:39 AM

...thinner thighs... enfusefitness.com/images/OxygenArticle.pdf

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:39 AM

Paleo4ever -- Poliquin used to make it (apparently it narrowed the thunder thighs of athelete Chrissy Mays) but it is a pharmaceutical so it probably got cracked down... either blocking alpha-2 or stimulating beta receptors (aminophylline) topically has been shown; gotta block the receptor or override the tissue resistance. I tink Ferriss talked about aminophylline. us.cpoliquin.com/product_p/lean%20legs.htm

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:37 AM

FRUSTRATING!!!!! arrrrgghh. We are uniquely and hormonally different, esp gender-wise. But I think a lot of men are like grrrrls these day, and cry/whine like them too.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:35 AM

Oops the athlete is 'Chrissy May' http://www.enfusefitness.com/images/OxygenArticle.pdf

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:34 AM

... http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:34 AM

To 'sync' gotta have the best hormone fluxes... cortisol is circadian and diurnal like sunlight. Gotta get it up in the am (but not too high) and gotta get it down in the evenings (but not catatonic). I've found personally that supplying the adrenals what it needs (salt, multiminerals Magnesium Calcium Zinc Selenium Trace, calm/rest/yoga/sleep/naps) and targeted nutraceuticals help it to produce 'normal' fluxes of cortisol and adrenaline... known as adaptogens. Eleutheros, rhodiola, ashwagandha, community service, hugs, s***X... One of the best resources i've found from an MD, MPH...

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:22 AM

Paleo4ever -- Poliquin used to make it (apparently it narrowed the thunder thighs of Mays, the hawwwt volleyball rockstar) but it is a pharmaceutical so it probably got cracked down... blocking alpha-2 or stimulating beta receptors (aminophylline) topically has been shown. I tink Ferriss talked about aminophylline. http://us.cpoliquin.com/product_p/lean%20legs.htm

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:19 AM

Devany -- it's funny under insulin resistance situations our gender switches (T aromatizes to E in men; E to T in grrrls). I kinda suspect the (real) DeVany has a bit of moob-action going on. Men switch to moobies and grrrls to 'lady-staches'!!!

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:16 AM

'young buck Martin B' *ha ahaaa* I wonder if he read this rat study? I think it mimics humans well -- see fig 2 and 15 -- healthy young bucks/rats get higher T and bigger testes mass with IF (and lower cortisol) and the females had VASTLY different reponses to IF and 20 and 40% CR in sensing the 'reproductive environment' (cortisol goes up with grrls esp at 40% CR e.g. starving). http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0004146

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:35 PM

I'd say most paleohackers have a distorted hyper awareness when it comes to the feelings of their bodies ;)

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on February 26, 2012
at 03:11 AM

right...and i certainly do NOT have bulletproof adrenals..i have very weak ones i think... Grace..what do you think is most effective to achieve this appropriately times and synced adren. court. insul. ?? What is a topical Alpha blocker?

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on February 26, 2012
at 03:08 AM

yes thats how i feel. big belly and just rolly...

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on February 26, 2012
at 02:37 AM

Also we get lady-staches. bummer

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on February 26, 2012
at 01:45 AM

Thats really interesting....does increasing your ingested cholestorol, such that a high fat diet usually also has provide a good source that would reduce if not neutralize the effect of the cholesterol "stealing". I would think the extra cholesterol built into a ketogenic diet would sufficiently dampen that effect in most?

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on February 26, 2012
at 01:24 AM

If the body is 'stealing' cholesterol to produce cortisol guess where it's pulling this from? Men: testosterone/progesterone/pregnenolone, Women: PROGESTERONE(our main anabolic/fat-burning hormone), leaving us in an estrogen dominant state which is FATTENING. This leaves many women infertile (which is epidemic like adrenal issues).

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on February 26, 2012
at 01:20 AM

Definitely. There is a big gender divide (having children IS STRESSFUL, hormonally, physically)!!!!!

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3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 26, 2012
at 01:19 AM

My observations are that one needs bulletproof adrenals to do IF'ing and VLC (I don't)... and most (conventionally-trained, non-integrative) docs know CR*P about adrenal gland function (as they are ignorant of the HPA-thyroid-gut-gonad axis as well). For fat loss, it's necessary to have appropriately timed and synced adrenaline, cortisol and insulin and the tissues with high sensitivity to adrenaline, cortisol and insulin... This is why topical alpha-blockers, lifestyle changes, sleep, xenoestrogen/pesticide avoidance, herbals that promote insulin sensitivity (and directly reduce insulin resistance) are SUPER effective for fat loss (vitamin D, testosterone, ECGC, omega-3, adaptogens, etc).

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:39 AM

Paleo4ever -- Poliquin used to make it (apparently it narrowed the thunder thighs of athelete Chrissy Mays) but it is a pharmaceutical so it probably got cracked down... either blocking alpha-2 or stimulating beta receptors (aminophylline) topically has been shown; gotta block the receptor or override the tissue resistance. I tink Ferriss talked about aminophylline. us.cpoliquin.com/product_p/lean%20legs.htm

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:19 AM

Devany -- it's funny under insulin resistance situations our gender switches (T aromatizes to E in men; E to T in grrrls). I kinda suspect the (real) DeVany has a bit of moob-action going on. Men switch to moobies and grrrls to 'lady-staches'!!!

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 26, 2012
at 01:24 AM

If the body is 'stealing' cholesterol to produce cortisol guess where it's pulling this from? Men: testosterone/progesterone/pregnenolone, Women: PROGESTERONE(our main anabolic/fat-burning hormone), leaving us in an estrogen dominant state which is FATTENING. This leaves many women infertile (which is epidemic like adrenal issues).

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on February 26, 2012
at 02:37 AM

Also we get lady-staches. bummer

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:22 AM

Paleo4ever -- Poliquin used to make it (apparently it narrowed the thunder thighs of Mays, the hawwwt volleyball rockstar) but it is a pharmaceutical so it probably got cracked down... blocking alpha-2 or stimulating beta receptors (aminophylline) topically has been shown. I tink Ferriss talked about aminophylline. http://us.cpoliquin.com/product_p/lean%20legs.htm

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 04:30 AM

JayJay, No. I don't think dietary cholesterol plays a role like that because internally the hormonal messages are so tightly regulated with their respective feedback controls and levers... Also just to give you an example that there are superior controls like mind and genetics--I think of vegan MMA fighters with obvious high T, like Mac Danzig. OTOH Volek et al did a study and it showed higher T with higher satfat (cholesterol) but he didn't separate out how the carbs affected this. Some of the hormonal consequences of IF are like ketosis, so I suspect it would be similar like the rat study.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:34 AM

To 'sync' gotta have the best hormone fluxes... cortisol is circadian and diurnal like sunlight. Gotta get it up in the am (but not too high) and gotta get it down in the evenings (but not catatonic). I've found personally that supplying the adrenals what it needs (salt, multiminerals Magnesium Calcium Zinc Selenium Trace, calm/rest/yoga/sleep/naps) and targeted nutraceuticals help it to produce 'normal' fluxes of cortisol and adrenaline... known as adaptogens. Eleutheros, rhodiola, ashwagandha, community service, hugs, s***X... One of the best resources i've found from an MD, MPH...

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 26, 2012
at 01:45 AM

Thats really interesting....does increasing your ingested cholestorol, such that a high fat diet usually also has provide a good source that would reduce if not neutralize the effect of the cholesterol "stealing". I would think the extra cholesterol built into a ketogenic diet would sufficiently dampen that effect in most?

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:39 AM

...thinner thighs... enfusefitness.com/images/OxygenArticle.pdf

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on February 26, 2012
at 03:11 AM

right...and i certainly do NOT have bulletproof adrenals..i have very weak ones i think... Grace..what do you think is most effective to achieve this appropriately times and synced adren. court. insul. ?? What is a topical Alpha blocker?

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:34 AM

... http://www.drlam.com/articles/adrenal_fatigue.asp

D31a2a2d43191b15ca4a1c7ec7d03038

(4134)

on February 27, 2012
at 01:28 PM

Grace, thank you very much for all this information!

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:35 AM

Oops the athlete is 'Chrissy May' http://www.enfusefitness.com/images/OxygenArticle.pdf

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0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on February 26, 2012
at 01:15 AM

Are you female? IMHO IFing is not great for the ladies. We tend to have worse glucose control when IFing. It also raises cortisol like a mo fo.

Also, how old are you?

I can do a lot of things, but IFing like that young buck Martin B. does NOT work for me (big belly, out of control hunger AFTER I start to eat). I think it's because I am a girl and I DO NOT like to eat big when I do eat - that's pretty crucial. Eating big.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 26, 2012
at 01:20 AM

Definitely. There is a big gender divide (having children IS STRESSFUL, hormonally, physically)!!!!!

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on February 26, 2012
at 03:08 AM

yes thats how i feel. big belly and just rolly...

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on February 27, 2012
at 09:23 PM

http://endo.endojournals.org/content/148/9/4318.full So it's interesting to see just how sensitive the female system is to energy flux - granted this is a dramatic 40% change in energy intake. But the lady rats became masculinized and emaciated, but they also had higher cognitive ability and used up lots of energy moving about. The dude rats didn't change as much, didn't lose as much bodyfat, and didn't get all jazzed up mentally. They think this may be another reason women are more prone to anorexia than men - it's an upper.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:16 AM

'young buck Martin B' *ha ahaaa* I wonder if he read this rat study? I think it mimics humans well -- see fig 2 and 15 -- healthy young bucks/rats get higher T and bigger testes mass with IF (and lower cortisol) and the females had VASTLY different reponses to IF and 20 and 40% CR in sensing the 'reproductive environment' (cortisol goes up with grrls esp at 40% CR e.g. starving). http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0004146

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:37 AM

FRUSTRATING!!!!! arrrrgghh. We are uniquely and hormonally different, esp gender-wise. But I think a lot of men are like grrrrls these day, and cry/whine like them too.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on February 27, 2012
at 04:17 AM

Oh! Thanks for that link. I really really would like to see more gender specific about macronutrients, micronutrients, excercise and stuff like fasting. Paleo, thus far, seems to be a man's world.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on March 05, 2012
at 04:53 AM

Meredith, I agree... we're more sensitive *ha haaah* No seriously I don't understand why we're so d*mn sensitive to energy flux. Yeah cortisol feeds for survival not super fantastic living and longevity... I used to like high octane coffee (Peets if youre in Cali) and loved the appetite suppressing effects but now I can barely drink it because I'm sensitive to the cortisol raising.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on March 05, 2012
at 05:00 AM

I was (trying) to talk to Dan on the PHD blog. http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=5604 Low carb hypocaloric doesn't work for insulin sensitive folks for losing body fat. It is like these rats. I overdid it myself when I got into all the IF'ing hype. Crapped out my adrenals and jacked cortisols too high (then low). Actually I lost the 50# weight eating sprouted wheat toast with peanut butter everyday and small frequent meals and running/biking/swimming/cardio 30-90min 4 days out of the week sprints/wts 20min/week.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on March 05, 2012
at 04:57 AM

Great find on the article -- at all levels including IF the cortisol was raised in the jazzed/starved female rats, EXCEPT the high fat-high glucose... GLucose I think saved their adrenals. There was still adrenal gland hypertrophy (higher wet organ mass compared with controls, signalling some malfunction) but the blood levels were not elevated. I saw that too -- the dude rats didn't get all jazzed up mentally (except until 40% CR).

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on March 06, 2012
at 03:39 PM

I just found that great post you did all about adrenal fatigue and what you've been doing to rest. I heart Schwarzbein. So glad to hear that her protocol worked for you. Your post helped me to see that my immediate weight gain on her plan was not due to the plan being bad, but that my chemicals are screwed. Don't sully your blog with the likes of me! But, did you see this fat mapping thing? http://www.healthhabits.ca/2009/08/12/hormones-problem-areas-and-your-body-fat-map-part-2/ Also, there is hope for us just on this side of the meno - http://www.ergo-log.com/weightlossaftermenopause.html

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on March 05, 2012
at 09:37 PM

Do you have a blog post about this Dr. BG? I would LOVE to see more gender specific regs about this kind of stuff.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on March 07, 2012
at 02:28 AM

why do we even want it all.....????!!! Martha Stewart D*MN U.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on March 07, 2012
at 02:26 AM

I got iatrogenic damage from Mirena, a progestin IUD. It gave me 2yrs of hormone issues -- 10 lbs fat gain, acne and b*tchiness despite exercise, supps, hubby-love, EVERYTHING. I felt like those mice we're talking about!! I did the 10-20% CR and IF to combat all of it. Following Schwarzbein fixed the damage and now just dealing/working off the inevitable fat gain (the cure). It's all reversible just kinda pain-staking and getting my *ss pounding the concrete.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on March 07, 2012
at 02:16 AM

Are you kidding hawwwwt grllll?????! I gotch ur website. I AM GONNA STALK YOU *big wink* You better email ur spunky brain thoughts.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on March 07, 2012
at 02:19 AM

That's funny -- healthhabits was the first I heard of fat mapping, then I read Dr.Natasha Turner ND on 'The Hormone Diet' which is the most absolute bomb book. Sexxxy and funny. She even does the plan with gluten, the only negative I found about the book (and talks about her mom fighting liver cancer).

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on March 06, 2012
at 03:40 PM

Okay - enough love notes here - I am going to email you any more crap I find about this stuff ... unless I receive a cease and desist order. :)

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on March 06, 2012
at 07:17 AM

*sigh* Meredith, I'll try. I've figured out the 'fat map' but the gender divide evades me a little... we should do a collaborative post!!!! that'd be wicked cool!!! (i was even scarfing chocolate croissants with the big phat wt loss, but now I'm semi perimenopausal + stress and my gut is the SH**TS and working off a few lbs of fat is the same amount of work but motivation for the last few is like semi ZILCHO (other than being a grand de VAIN-Y *haaahaa!*) stress hormones like cortisol can be the end-game determinant for many many folks... Look at all these IF/vlc/xfit #FAILEOS.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on March 07, 2012
at 02:22 AM

Do you read T-nation? Figure athlete material?? http://www.t-nation.com/figureImages.jsp?pageNo=1 The best 'diet' is a paleo figure athlete diet, IMHO. The gals do low-mod cardio + xfit/intervals. The eat ALL DAY, small meals, carbs dispersed, mod-high protein... tons of omega-3 and antioxidants to beat up insulin resistance. (i'm talking the natural ones, not T-amped)

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on February 26, 2012
at 12:57 AM

IF does not always equal weight loss.

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on February 26, 2012
at 01:34 AM

Short answer, yet. Cortosol triggers insulin release which triggers fat storage.

My general advice for IF is only do it if it's "Easy" and don't plan it (that's called "planned" or "scheduled fasting"). My only IF comes if I get too busy for lunch or dinner. I just skip a meal "intermittently" if it's not easy to get a meal that day. And those days are just fine, I don't actually miss not having the meal.

If your IF causes you any stress, it's probably doing more harm than good.

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on February 26, 2012
at 01:50 PM

I have been IFing for two weeks following the plan you described. I usually only get in two big meals during my feeding window. Strict Paleo. I've seen the best results following this plan. I CrossFit fasted 5 days a week at 5:30 a.m., then feeding window opens at 11:30. I know I leaned out because I went from 3 huge meals a day to two. Maybe its what you are eating during your feeding window also??

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