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How will a small amount of olive oil or coconut oil affect a fast?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 02, 2012 at 7:40 PM

I'm trying a 7-10 day fast. I may have testicular cancer, and wanted to do this while waiting to confirm with the urologist. The goal of the fast is to enter ketosis and starve cancer cells of glucose.

I've been meaning to try something like this anyway since reading this interview Rob Wolf did with Thomas Seyfried, seems generally curative. http://www.crossfit.com/cf-journal/seyfriedInterview.pdf

I'm fairly lean, and have been doing intermittant fasting daily for a year (Leangains). On the second day, isn't hard so far.

My Questions

I had been taking turmeric with black pepper and olive oil. I want to keep taking it. Will ingesting a small quantity of oil mess with the fast?

I also considered taking a spoonful of coconut oil. I had heard this speeds ketosis and helps energy while fasting. How will taking coconut oil affect things?

Thanks

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on November 11, 2012
at 05:06 AM

Might I inquire as to what the difference is?

Bdc4873264ec9dbec27505e678dabce0

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on November 10, 2012
at 05:50 AM

Fasting research puts the profits of food companies at risk.

Bdc4873264ec9dbec27505e678dabce0

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on November 03, 2012
at 08:39 PM

If you'd like to have a doctor on hand as you fast: www.healthpromoting.com/

Bdc4873264ec9dbec27505e678dabce0

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on November 03, 2012
at 08:38 PM

(At the risk of sounding patronizing, I proceed.) Please do all the research you can before you begin. There are risks involved with longer fasts. There are plenty of books available on this subject, so you don't have to rely completely on internet sources.

Bdc4873264ec9dbec27505e678dabce0

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on November 03, 2012
at 08:21 PM

There is meager money to be made in selling fasting, so very little research exists. My recommendation to Michael and jake3_14: don't do it, don't fast.

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on November 03, 2012
at 03:58 AM

If you have compelling evidence zaitz then why not share it. Doesn't seem to be down side for anyone shifting the onus of proof onto another (both of you havn't provided citationo, to be fair)...

Bdc4873264ec9dbec27505e678dabce0

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on November 03, 2012
at 12:14 AM

Prove me wrong. Do you believe that fasting is an effective tool in any respect?

Bdc4873264ec9dbec27505e678dabce0

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on November 03, 2012
at 12:12 AM

prove me wrong.

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on November 03, 2012
at 12:07 AM

Please give a citation or two for the idea that fasting encourages your body's immune system cells to "eat" cancerous cells more effectively than providing the nourishment necessary to have a healthy immune system in the first place.

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on November 02, 2012
at 09:53 PM

I have no advice, but here's hoping for the tests coming up negative.

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on November 02, 2012
at 09:10 PM

Thanks. I'm going to play it by ear. If I start feeling faint, I'll add in some liver. Already decided to have a little bit of coconut oil.

Bdc4873264ec9dbec27505e678dabce0

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on November 02, 2012
at 07:49 PM

I am experimenting with fasting myself. One thing that concerns me is potassium levels.

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A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

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on November 02, 2012
at 08:49 PM

If you're interested at all in up-regulating autophagy, adding some fat to your fast likely won't strongly negate the effect. Turmeric probably won't either since some evidence suggests curcumin increases autophagic cancer cell death in vivo:

"Evidence That Curcumin Suppresses the Growth of Malignant Gliomas in Vitro and in Vivo through Induction of Autophagy: Role of Akt and Extracellular Signal-Regulated Kinase Signaling Pathways"

I personally feel that lengthy of a fast is risky, especially for someone described as lean. Not the least of which is because you'll be totally deprived of adequate nutrition. Choosing to go that long without food is of course your choice, but I might recommend adding some nutrient dense foods like egg yolks, liver, and/or oysters, if only in small amounts.

032b342bc20e78d74f3954af570c6258

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on November 02, 2012
at 09:10 PM

Thanks. I'm going to play it by ear. If I start feeling faint, I'll add in some liver. Already decided to have a little bit of coconut oil.

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on November 02, 2012
at 08:46 PM

it might end your fast but wont kick you out of ketosis. oil wont feed the cancer cells so you could have occasional oil to keep your energy high

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on November 11, 2012
at 02:25 AM

A little coconut oil in your coffee is beneficial in a fasted state.

Olive oil however, is not (in relation to fasting).

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

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on November 11, 2012
at 05:06 AM

Might I inquire as to what the difference is?

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Bdc4873264ec9dbec27505e678dabce0

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on November 02, 2012
at 07:47 PM

Consuming fat will break the fast.

Spices might irritate the stomach/intestinal lining creating discomfort and a greater likelihood that you will want to end the fast prematurely.

You want your body to eat your cancer, right? If you feed your body, then youre crushing that possibility, because your body will no longer be hungry enough to go to such lengths to obtain calories.

Bdc4873264ec9dbec27505e678dabce0

(432)

on November 02, 2012
at 07:49 PM

I am experimenting with fasting myself. One thing that concerns me is potassium levels.

Bdc4873264ec9dbec27505e678dabce0

(432)

on November 03, 2012
at 12:14 AM

Prove me wrong. Do you believe that fasting is an effective tool in any respect?

00cd3b6f51530a6832fcda1712edbec3

(2411)

on November 03, 2012
at 12:07 AM

Please give a citation or two for the idea that fasting encourages your body's immune system cells to "eat" cancerous cells more effectively than providing the nourishment necessary to have a healthy immune system in the first place.

Bdc4873264ec9dbec27505e678dabce0

(432)

on November 03, 2012
at 12:12 AM

prove me wrong.

Bdc4873264ec9dbec27505e678dabce0

(432)

on November 03, 2012
at 08:21 PM

There is meager money to be made in selling fasting, so very little research exists. My recommendation to Michael and jake3_14: don't do it, don't fast.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on November 03, 2012
at 03:58 AM

If you have compelling evidence zaitz then why not share it. Doesn't seem to be down side for anyone shifting the onus of proof onto another (both of you havn't provided citationo, to be fair)...

Bdc4873264ec9dbec27505e678dabce0

(432)

on November 10, 2012
at 05:50 AM

Fasting research puts the profits of food companies at risk.

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