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Hack my titanium implants....

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 10, 2012 at 11:33 PM

I had a fall on Sunday, which ended up dislocating my shoulder and shearing off part of the ball joint. I am now the proud owner of a set of titaniun screws and plates which are holding the reamains of my shoulder together.

  1. The German Doctors have told me that the plates can stay in permanently (although it might be possible to take them out eventually). When the time comes, should I pressure yhe docs to take them out, at the possible risk of another operation? Are there any negative health impications of having a load of metal inside my body?
  2. The fall was pretty innocuous, but I've wrecked my shoulder. I've been doing <25g a day keto plus some IF for more than a year, do you think that this might have impacted my bone health?
  3. What dietary adjustments could I make to aid the healing of my shoulder? I'm presuming that low protein keto is not a good idea right now.
  4. I was planning to start crossfit before Christmas, obviously that's not going to happen now, and the Docs are advising that I might never get a full range of motion back. Anyone else managed to come back from a similar injury?

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on December 11, 2012
at 07:52 AM

i guess the good news is that it's all titanium, & no plastic/polyethylene joint implant. focus on the positives. my shoulder is stronger now than it was pre injury. i learnt all about rotator cuff muscles & ways to strengthen them. likely some very overlooked & under exercised (& weak) muscles in most people. rotator cuff exercises are boring & not cool looking, esp compared to your run of the mill macho heavy weighted shoulder presses.

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on December 11, 2012
at 06:23 AM

Makes me feel happier, thanks Matt.

B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

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on December 11, 2012
at 06:23 AM

Thank daz. No when they relocated the shoulder, half the ball joint got left behind, which is why they had to bolt it all together. HAven't seen the post op x-rays yet.

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on December 11, 2012
at 05:35 AM

the Paleo solution to a broken dislocated arm is to catch an infection and die. Sometimes modern medicine does have better solutions.

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on December 11, 2012
at 05:33 AM

cos I'm in hospital in Germany, I don't speak German, and my arm was hanging out of its socket. Besides, the implants in question are plates and screws - I doubt that bone could ever work for that.

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543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on December 11, 2012
at 12:11 AM

ouch...commiserations

Good to see you got titanium (not steel). So, your actual ball & socket joint is ok?

I think you'll know the answer as to if to get the stuff removed, when the time comes.
ie. after you've gone through all the recovery from surgery and all the rehab. If you get it removed you will likely need to go through pretty much the same thing again i think (happy to be corrected by someone who's been there).

I broke a collar bone (clavicle) & had it plated and six screws (all titanium).
In my situation the metal/screws were irritating my skin, there's not much (i would say nil on me) subcutaneous fat over a clavicle. The car seatbelt lay right over it, very annoying.
So i had mine removed. In the case of a clavicle you need to be careful because it is now weak again due to the holes left from the screws (they do use bone filler), which may or may not apply to your situation.

A few thoughts on diet/nutrients/vitamins aspect;
knuckle bones with joint tissue attached and make soups; gelatin & collagen for your connective tissues.

Make sure your Vitamin D levels are good, they will likely plummet if this study is anything to go by,
The relation between acute changes in the systemic inflammatory response and plasma 25-hydroxyvitamin D concentrations after elective knee arthroplasty
Which reported "a significant decrease in 25(OH)D of ~40%" post knee surgery.
And, "At 3 mo, 25(OH)D and free 25(OH)D remained significantly lower, 20% and 30% respectively"

And if you increase D3 you should probably balance with more Vit A as well.

Vitamin K2 as well.

B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

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on December 11, 2012
at 06:23 AM

Thank daz. No when they relocated the shoulder, half the ball joint got left behind, which is why they had to bolt it all together. HAven't seen the post op x-rays yet.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on December 11, 2012
at 07:52 AM

i guess the good news is that it's all titanium, & no plastic/polyethylene joint implant. focus on the positives. my shoulder is stronger now than it was pre injury. i learnt all about rotator cuff muscles & ways to strengthen them. likely some very overlooked & under exercised (& weak) muscles in most people. rotator cuff exercises are boring & not cool looking, esp compared to your run of the mill macho heavy weighted shoulder presses.

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on December 11, 2012
at 12:00 AM

Titanium is chemically fairly inert. Non-toxic. Biocompatible. Keep it in there, it's not hurting anything.

B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

(11488)

on December 11, 2012
at 06:23 AM

Makes me feel happier, thanks Matt.

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383127951e2e17f23b584cd3842bb796

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on December 11, 2012
at 05:28 AM

just curious. why didn't you get an implant made out of bone or something else a little more paleo?

B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

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on December 11, 2012
at 05:35 AM

the Paleo solution to a broken dislocated arm is to catch an infection and die. Sometimes modern medicine does have better solutions.

B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

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on December 11, 2012
at 05:33 AM

cos I'm in hospital in Germany, I don't speak German, and my arm was hanging out of its socket. Besides, the implants in question are plates and screws - I doubt that bone could ever work for that.

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