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Does my body not like fasting?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 19, 2013 at 4:22 PM

I need some help! Those last few pounds have been lingering forever!

I have been low carb for about a month now, since this is not my first attempt, I know that I am fat adapted by now. No significant results so far.

I also fast often, skipping one or two meals every other day, and doing the occasional 24-hour fast. I have been having a problem with it though, because I tend to eat way too much at the meal after a fast, like for some reason my brain is still very hungry when my stomach feels like it is physically going to explode. What is that about? Is it because my body is craving carbs?

So, since I am having this fasting problem, would it be better to eat often but just smaller meals? I just feel like my brain always wants to overcompensate for the loss and it makes me feel like crap after! Is this something I just need to mentally get over and control myself?

I just want to feel good, and see some progress already!

Background: Female, college student, access to full gym, as paleo as I can be in a cafeteria with a meal plan. 5'5", 131 pounds.

B9cfa43798183424786a59d11ac52f76

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on February 21, 2013
at 06:22 PM

I should clarify that and say "If I feel like I'm starving, I'll sit down and eat 1,000 calories IN ONE SITTING. Or more. It's working nicely.

B9cfa43798183424786a59d11ac52f76

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on February 21, 2013
at 06:21 PM

Christina, I'm a girl who has been more seriously IFing (16/8 all days) for the last few weeks and am feeling phenomenal energy-wise, and seem to be leaning out. I attribute this to two things: 1) I am still paleo, but do carb refeeds after my workouts now, as leangains recommends and 2) I'm eating more than ever! That means if I'm starving, then yes, I will sit down and eat 1,000 calories. And it's okay, don't beat yourself up about it. Give your body what it needs.

Bfddc0ab925c8ea0e0c2e87198514907

on February 20, 2013
at 01:05 PM

I would massively ramp up the greens, focus on oily fish, organ meat, seafood, and moderate the muscle meat. Also, you didn't mention coconut oil - if you are not already, I'd incorporate a couple of daily teaspoons of this into your diet either in cooking or just straight from the jar.

5f678ffff153bfc8a17ac1ee438c054f

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on February 19, 2013
at 10:33 PM

I put a sample of my meals and workout as a comment on j3wcy's response!

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on February 19, 2013
at 08:06 PM

This is a BAD idea.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on February 19, 2013
at 04:54 PM

Fasting beyond 24 hours suffers a lot from diminishing returns.

5f678ffff153bfc8a17ac1ee438c054f

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on February 19, 2013
at 04:34 PM

Breakfast: Two or three fried or scrambled eggs with bacon or a small ham steak. Lunch: Spinach salad with hardboiled eggs, avocado, chicken breast, tuna, and maybe some other cold cuts. Dinner: Chicken breast, tilapia, or some sort of beef (depending on what is available), a mix of zucchini and other squash and broccoli. Sometimes more spinach. I workout at least four times a week, lifting heavy. I focus on deadlift, shoulder press, back squat, and bench. Doing one of those and then some supplemental work.

5f678ffff153bfc8a17ac1ee438c054f

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on February 19, 2013
at 04:29 PM

I looked at it--Very interesting. I just thought that only happened from continually overeating. When I go a day eating three meals, I do notice when the food just doesn't taste good anymore. Should I just respond to that? Because isn't that one of the ways the body tries to get you to stop eating?

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on February 19, 2013
at 04:25 PM

If it makes you feel like shit, stop doing it. Some people find that adding some carbs help them lose the last couple. Personally, an overfeeding day helps me quite a bit in comparison to fasting. Leangains.com is a good primer on fasting if you're dead set on that route. Also, letting us know what your exercise program and a couple days worth of food looks like will help you get some targeted advice.

5f678ffff153bfc8a17ac1ee438c054f

(1405)

on February 19, 2013
at 04:34 PM

Breakfast: Two or three fried or scrambled eggs with bacon or a small ham steak. Lunch: Spinach salad with hardboiled eggs, avocado, chicken breast, tuna, and maybe some other cold cuts. Dinner: Chicken breast, tilapia, or some sort of beef (depending on what is available), a mix of zucchini and other squash and broccoli. Sometimes more spinach. I workout at least four times a week, lifting heavy. I focus on deadlift, shoulder press, back squat, and bench. Doing one of those and then some supplemental work.

B9cfa43798183424786a59d11ac52f76

(145)

on February 21, 2013
at 06:22 PM

I should clarify that and say "If I feel like I'm starving, I'll sit down and eat 1,000 calories IN ONE SITTING. Or more. It's working nicely.

B9cfa43798183424786a59d11ac52f76

(145)

on February 21, 2013
at 06:21 PM

Christina, I'm a girl who has been more seriously IFing (16/8 all days) for the last few weeks and am feeling phenomenal energy-wise, and seem to be leaning out. I attribute this to two things: 1) I am still paleo, but do carb refeeds after my workouts now, as leangains recommends and 2) I'm eating more than ever! That means if I'm starving, then yes, I will sit down and eat 1,000 calories. And it's okay, don't beat yourself up about it. Give your body what it needs.

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7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on February 19, 2013
at 08:25 PM

Wolframalpha.com suggest you are at your ideal weight, if its 'ideal weight' is anything to go by.
Add your age in there and see if it says anything different.

But anyway, these approaches you are trying mimic natural processes, but the stats are sort of indicating your goal is an unnatural one. So, one choice is to give up the non-evolutionary goals and embrace your evolutionary destiny. The other choice is go read up on what bodybuilders do to lean out before competition. They do not fast. I think they do slow cardio (like walking) and then eat several small meals a days.

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on February 19, 2013
at 05:28 PM

For the last few months ive been fasting for 20 hours per day w/one big meal per day in the evening & ive noticed that although i initially lost fat, gained muscle, skin got clearer, i have adapted/plateaud on this regime.

A big benefit of fasting is due to resting but also stressing your body then when you feed it you bounce back stronger, like exercising/stressing a muscle then feeding it. So if you have a fasting 'routine' (even one or two sporadic days per week repeatedly) then your body adapts to it & the benefits aren't noticeable anymore (fat loss plateaus/muscle 'bounce back' plateaus/healing plateaus), so i feel like fasting should be less routine & more truly intermittent to get the extreme benefits like healing & weight loss. One or two days per week repeatedly is not intermittent, within the bigger picture it is a routine to which the body will adapt.

I reckon i still get benefits from resting my digestive system for 20 hours a day but fat loss has slowed right down, my skin got clearer but then stopped, old wounds began to heal but then stopped, in order to heal more or lose more weight i would have to fast for longer than the 20 hours to which im adapted.

Im now mixing it up with random 3/4 day fasts, or longer if i feel necessary.

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on March 06, 2013
at 06:54 AM

to be honest i think it actually sounds like you are already at a healthy weight for your height especially if you have a medium-large frame (look at your mums size through-out her life, thats usually a good guide to where you should be). You are probably so hungry after your fast because you are not eating enough when you do eat. You might change your goals to adding muscle as opposed to losing weight?

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on February 20, 2013
at 12:34 AM

I would take a look at this article on Paleo for Women (an amazing site). Mark Sisson recommended it at some point and it makes lots of sense. IF can actually have negative effects on women even though it can do great things for men. Different bodies, different hormones, different cortisol reactions, etc.

http://www.paleoforwomen.com/shattering-the-myth-of-fasting-for-women-a-review-of-female-specific-responses-to-fasting-in-the-literature/

She also has a great post about eating more carbs as a woman, particular those high in glucose (and low in fructose). http://www.paleoforwomen.com/carbohydrates-for-fertility-and-health/

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on February 19, 2013
at 09:49 PM

Can you tell us what your meals contain?

5f678ffff153bfc8a17ac1ee438c054f

(1405)

on February 19, 2013
at 10:33 PM

I put a sample of my meals and workout as a comment on j3wcy's response!

Bfddc0ab925c8ea0e0c2e87198514907

on February 20, 2013
at 01:05 PM

I would massively ramp up the greens, focus on oily fish, organ meat, seafood, and moderate the muscle meat. Also, you didn't mention coconut oil - if you are not already, I'd incorporate a couple of daily teaspoons of this into your diet either in cooking or just straight from the jar.

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on February 19, 2013
at 04:35 PM

24 hours isnt very long by fasting standards, the longest ive gone is 9 days and i felt fine by the end of it.

try and do at least 5 days, if you can. you WONT pass out or need hospitalization or any of the nonsense that you hear about.

dry fasting, abstaining from water, is even better, but you have to be VERY careful when doing so. ive never gone beyond 55 hours dr

a popular form of fasting that i both practice on a regular basis is cascade fasting...where you mis wet and dry fasting. so, say you do an 8 day fast - the first day you drink water, the second day you go dry, the third day you drink water, the 4th/5th days you go dry, the 6th day you drink water, and so on. but again, be VERY careful dry fasting. start out with a midnight to midnight test, and hydrate well the day before.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on February 19, 2013
at 04:54 PM

Fasting beyond 24 hours suffers a lot from diminishing returns.

7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

(11214)

on February 19, 2013
at 08:06 PM

This is a BAD idea.

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on February 19, 2013
at 04:24 PM

sounds like some leptin resistance. Look at Dr Kruse's 'leptin reset'

5f678ffff153bfc8a17ac1ee438c054f

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on February 19, 2013
at 04:29 PM

I looked at it--Very interesting. I just thought that only happened from continually overeating. When I go a day eating three meals, I do notice when the food just doesn't taste good anymore. Should I just respond to that? Because isn't that one of the ways the body tries to get you to stop eating?

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