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Do ketone levels matter? And does keto-smell go away?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 07, 2012 at 12:13 AM

So I thought I might be in ketosis. I don't eat a whole lot in the way of carbs, just potatoes, fruit, and a square or two of 85% dark chocolate, a few times a week. On potato or fruit days probably around 80g carbs, other days around 40g, I think. I'm estimating on the higher side because I don't really count them. I don't have a particular macro goal and weight loss isn't something I'm trying to do, but if it happens that is okay, too.

I don't have keto-breath, but my armpit smell has been, ah, different lately (sharper, almost chemicallish which sounds kinda like the breath description, sorry if it's TMI) so I thought ketosis might be the cause. I got some ketostix and gave myself a test and came up on the trace level. (Also, last night was a potato night so perhaps that could affect it. I plan to continue testing for a few days, do a little N=1 experimentation.) Is this significant? Do you burn more fat/is it desirable when your ketone levels are higher or is it more of an on/off sort of thing? Also, if I am in ketosis and that's the cause of my yuck-smell, does that go away if you keep yourself in ketosis? Does it persist if you bounce around in and out of keto?

I'm trying to decide, if I am in ketosis, if I want to stay here or not. I love my calendula deodorant, but to be honest Tom's of MAINE doesn't understand what summer in the South is like and I don't like the smell, assuming it is because of ketosis. If I am in ketosis and I like it, I can always go again in the winter when Tom's of Maine might have a chance.

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on August 07, 2012
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I do have ketostix, and am using them about once a day now to see if any changes are going on. I got "trace" amounts so that may be the case with the yuck-smell, as I don't think my fat intake is enough to be "in ketosis." But I guess a little ketone is better than none metabolically, just not when it comes to having a nice lady-smell!

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on August 07, 2012
at 10:48 AM

To really kill the pit odor, mix some coconut oil w baking soda and apply. I'm in VA with no AC and this will actually restrain odor for a couple of days.

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on August 07, 2012
at 07:08 AM

Thanks miked! I'll need to go research the hops (wasn't familiar with that!) and give the Burt's Bees stuff a sniff. I've also considered a few products from Lush. I tried one of their deodorants and found it too hard and scratchy, but they have some powder options and things that may work out better for me.

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"do you burn more fat/is it desirable when your ketone levels are higher?" No. When you are burning ketones, you're not burning fat- you're burning ketones. Different metabolic pathway.

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on August 07, 2012
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As your body becomes more fat-adapted, your ketone-levels as seen in the ketone sticks you pee on may actually diminish. This is because your body is becoming more efficient at burning ketone bodies for fuel; which by the way, is the preferred fuel source.

Smell goes away too for the same reason. Hope it helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.

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on August 07, 2012
at 01:19 PM

I had bad armpit odor for the first three months or so I was VLC then it normalized though I got used to applying deodorant several times a day.

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on August 07, 2012
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i have been low carb for well over a year and not once did i ever have a positive reading on those ketostix. it could be that i am very efficient at burning them, but i doubt it. the other consideration is excess protein being converted to glucose and used as fuel instead of ketones. my understanding is that this will occur before ketosis.

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on August 07, 2012
at 09:52 AM

You need to by some ketostix and test your urine.

I think that if you're eating 80g of carbs a couple of times a week, then it's pretty unlikely that you're "in ketosis" (whatever that means). Some people manage to turn the ketostix purple at strictly <50g a day, but in my experience you have to stick to <25g and restrict your protein intake too.

But then for most people "in ketosis" means just that, turning a ketostix purple.

If you're regularly eating less than 120g of carbs a day, and you aren't eating excessive amounts of protein, then you'll be relying on ketones some of the time, which might explain your tramp sweat.

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on August 07, 2012
at 09:29 PM

I do have ketostix, and am using them about once a day now to see if any changes are going on. I got "trace" amounts so that may be the case with the yuck-smell, as I don't think my fat intake is enough to be "in ketosis." But I guess a little ketone is better than none metabolically, just not when it comes to having a nice lady-smell!

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on August 07, 2012
at 12:28 AM

Don't know about the answer to your question, but I wanted to add this about deoderant:

1 - I just found this out not long ago, but Tom's of Maine had Hops in it. The reason I skip beer (other than gluten) is the hops. They're a xenoestrogen. I don't want to be undoing my manliness with rubbing hops on my body

2 - I switched to a Burt's Bees deodorant that's near the Tom's in the hippie section. It does better with my keto smell than the Tom's did.

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on August 07, 2012
at 07:08 AM

Thanks miked! I'll need to go research the hops (wasn't familiar with that!) and give the Burt's Bees stuff a sniff. I've also considered a few products from Lush. I tried one of their deodorants and found it too hard and scratchy, but they have some powder options and things that may work out better for me.

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