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Coconut oil and paleo-induced ketosis cause extreme fatigue for me. Why?

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Created April 24, 2012 at 8:39 AM

I'm a 326 lbs, 35 year old male.

I have started experimenting with coconut oil and pure MCT oil.

The coconut oil causes extreme fatigue for me. For example, in the morning I ate my usual morning meal consisting of a protein shake: 75 g of protein (50% casein, 50% whey). On this meal I usually feel good and don't have to eat again until 2 PM.

But this morning I also added 2 spoonfuls of coconut oil (from Jarrow Formulas).

I became so tired that I fell asleep on my desk, at work! Feel very, very fatigued.

This stuff was supposed to be energizing and make one feel wonderful, that's what everybody says.

Also, one other weird thing: the coconut oil seems to trigger some carb cravings.

The same thing happens when I try to follow the low-carb paleo diet. First comes the massive fatigue, which feels like the coconut oil induced fatigue.

Then, the never-ending horrible low carb flu with headaches, dizzyness, low glycemia, memory loss, inability to pay attention (I almost had an accident while driving because of this). I have tried to continue the low-carb paleo, but the low carb flu seems to never subside. It just goes on and on for weeks - the most I have resisted on it are 3 weeks or so.

I read all these stories of people being on paleo and losing weight successfully. Their experiences seem to be very different from mine.

Do I have a different body type?

What is the matter with me? My body seems to react differently to ketosis and paleo.

It is clear that low-carb paleo doesn't cut it for me. What kind of diet do you recommend?

F32f7dacc34ad668cdc70c169d710c57

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on May 30, 2012
at 08:26 PM

Nevermind coconut oil- I'm shocked that no one has asked how many carbs are in these shakes, or mentioned the fact that excess protein will convert to sugar readily, or that dairy-based shakes aren't an ideal source of energy on a paleo diet. Correct your food sources first, then try extra-virgin coconut oil.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on May 01, 2012
at 06:25 PM

Thank you for your comment. Unfortunately, I cannot have lemon juice and grapefruit because I have gastric erosion. I am taking herbs now and it seems they are helping.

E7e7e1c856d4494d4a1b700b6869df90

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on May 01, 2012
at 06:01 PM

no oil should have protein in it. even people who have peanut allergies should be able to consume peanut oil if processed properly. an organic virgin pressed coconut oil should be a very clean oil without protein remnants.

E7e7e1c856d4494d4a1b700b6869df90

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on May 01, 2012
at 05:49 PM

my liver was quite congested/painful too for several weeks. I fed it differently with ACV/lemon juice/grapefruit/ greens and much lower fat. After a few weeks it felt much better. I restarted back with fats and am monitoring but I actually had 3/4 of a 500 ml whipping cream home made ice cream along with my butter, olive oil etc..a few days ago and it is doing ok. It is always good to increase slowly.

E7e7e1c856d4494d4a1b700b6869df90

(982)

on May 01, 2012
at 05:44 PM

... the lethargy comes form the adaptation while the body is switching from carbs to fat for fuel. If you keep feeding carbs you keep postponing the switch. If you really buck down and eat a bit of fat/protein when you get hungry..eat often..until it passes..several days..small doses. This is my 3rd restart in about 15 months. I controlled my carbs to less than 10% fat around 80 % of calories and it has taken 5-6 days..I still feel a bit hungry but cleared head and energy good. experkement a bit and do what helps you as lng as you give up the junk and too many carbs..it will fall in place.

E7e7e1c856d4494d4a1b700b6869df90

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on May 01, 2012
at 05:37 PM

how many carbs are day are you consuming? I have heard some ppl cannot tolerate coconut oil..I would suggest waiting a couple of days and then just adding a tiny bit..like 1/4 tsp of co and see how that feels. if you feel ok double it next time. often it is an increase in fat in general that makes us feel awful if you are not used to a hi fat "clean" diet. Cut out ALL processed white foods, artificial foods(including sweetners) all fruit, all grains. Go with fat. meat, dairy if tolerant (clean/pure only) and good veg. The stricter you are the faster you adapt In My Exp.

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on April 29, 2012
at 10:53 PM

I second (third?) what Rob and Dave S are saying. I had the same experience.

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on April 26, 2012
at 08:44 AM

Thats correct, however by nature of the diet, and cutting out the most convenient and most common carb sources of the SAD diet, finding replacement carbs initially can be difficult, which is why these problems arise.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 24, 2012
at 01:09 PM

And now I am stuck. Using it as a lotion and absolutely hate it. If you ever need a good moisturizer, go for shea butter - SO MUCH BETTER!!!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on April 24, 2012
at 01:08 PM

That's what I have read and bought two jars. Can you tell my liver that? Because it does not do well with coconut oil.

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on April 24, 2012
at 12:56 PM

Wow, that's some really crappy advice.

1133603ea602c6824da56e8b596c9754

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on April 24, 2012
at 12:51 PM

If your liver is congested oils can be a problem, but coconut oil doesn't require bile acids and is easier for the liver to process, or something to that effect.

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on April 24, 2012
at 12:43 PM

Paleo does not mean low carb. A lot of people do well on low carb paleo - but some don't. Experiment with different amounts to see what helps with fatigue and still allows slow and steady weight loss. Paleo isn't set in stone - I think of it more as a template for self experimentation.

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on April 24, 2012
at 11:48 AM

don't call it a fast when you're consuming 6-8 protein shakes. Do you know what a fast is? You could call it muscle-sparing fasting if you were only consuming BCAAs, but, you're not. Also, three hours of going hog wild for someone who is already obese and trying to develop sound eating habits (which by most definitions means whole,real food) is bad advice.

81348acb7b886e2b32ca915d250268f3

(1022)

on April 24, 2012
at 11:34 AM

When I don't have enough carbs I get fkn lethargic, almost to the point where I want to climb into bed. It took me a while to figure out what was going on, like I wouldn't really be hungry, the high fats/proteins were keeping me satiated but suddenly I'd just hit a huge wall. I finally figured out it was cos I needed carbs, but a couple pieces of fruit dont really do the trick for me, it's gotta be something starchy. If I'm out, the best thing to quench this fatigue is some chips/fries or wedges. That really hits the spot for me. Obviously if I'm at home I can get something a bit healthier

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on April 24, 2012
at 11:33 AM

When I don't have enough carbs I get fkn lethargic, almost to the point where I want to climb into bed. It took me a while to figure out what was going on, like I wouldn't really be tired, the high fats/proteins were keeping me satiated but suddenly I'd just hit a huge wall. I finally figured out it was cos I needed carbs, but a couple pieces of fruit dont really do the trick for me, it's gotta be something starchy. If I'm out, the best thing to quench this fatigue is some chips/fries or wedges. That really hits the spot for me. Obviously if I'm at home I can get something a bit healthier

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

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on April 24, 2012
at 10:14 AM

I second this. Maybe cross reactivity with the coconut seed storage proteins. @TrentMax: If it bothers you, just don't eat it ;) .. There's no magic about coconut oil. Well, you could try MCT Oil, this should have no protein left.

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on April 24, 2012
at 09:08 AM

No, it is not the casein making me sleepy. When I eat the same morning meal but without the coconut oil, I wasn't sleepy at all. I have eaten this proteic shake for months. How long does it take for the low carb flu to subside?

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on April 24, 2012
at 09:02 AM

It's probably the casein making you sleepy. And low-carb flu does end, but you need to stay in ketosis for a while. Also everyone I know who's ever done low-carb and experience the nausea/shakiness/fatigue of onset ketosis says once they remain low carb it goes away and even IF they do low-carb, go back to seating SAD and do then do low-carb again, they don't experience low-carb flu as severely as the first time. The first time is always the worst.

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5
1133603ea602c6824da56e8b596c9754

on April 24, 2012
at 12:54 PM

Maybe start with teaspoon or smaller amount and work your way up. Or, like said previously, leave it out for a while.

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on September 13, 2012
at 12:40 AM

It seems most commenters are associating your reaction to either 1) adverse reaction to the coconut oil, 2) lack of carbs, 3) candida die-off, or 4) an adjustment period of sorts. I think it's unwise to assume it's any of the 4 when you can do isolated experiments to figure it out:

1) I would start by replacing the coconut oil with some other type of oil and get the same amount of fat. Unless you know for a fact you can tolerate dairy I would go with uncooked olive oil, animal fats, avocado, ghee. If you keep getting the same reaction, then move onto the 2nd hypothesis:

2) Add in more carbs slowly. I would suggest simple starches like white rice or potato. If you keep getting the same reaction, then it's time to test the 3rd hypothesis:

3) In this case, I would stay with the non-coconut oils but take alternative yeast killers like grapefruit seed extract, threelac powder, olive leaf extract, etc. If that fixes the problem, then try the coconut oil again and see how you do this time around. If it doesn't, then onto the 4th hypothesis!

4) I'm sure others would have a better answer than I on how long you should test out the adjustment period.

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on December 15, 2012
at 07:02 PM

2 spoonfuls of coconut oil (from Jarrow Formulas)...I became so tired that I fell asleep on my desk, at work! Feel very, very fatigued... Do I have a different body type?

You may have medium-chain acyl-coenzyme A dehydrogenase deficiency (MCADD) or a related condition.

MCADD is a genetic disorder that prevents the body from metabolizing medium chain fatty acids. It's not uncommon especially among people of northern European descent. The incidence in northern Germany is about one out of 4,000.

If I were you, I would stop eating coconut oil and MCT oil. They may be dangerous for you.

It might be a good idea to get checked for MCADD by a doctor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_chain_acyl_dehydrogenase_deficiency#cite_note-saudubray-1

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D82071842314d2047bd9fd17fd1272b0

on May 30, 2012
at 07:00 PM

Hi the coconut oil could be causing fatigue because it is a very potent yeast killer, Caprilic acid and lauric acid are in coconut oil and if it kills off yeast you will have a die off reaction which causes atkins like flu symptems. Start off with just one teaspoon a day and build up to bigger amounts slowly.

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on May 05, 2012
at 09:00 PM

Being tired and associating it with the consumption of coconut oil are not necessarily linked. It is more probable that coming off of the carbs has caused you the most severe withdrawal symptoms and alerts you to just how strong the carbohydrate addiction is, as all of your other symptoms are classic ones for carb addiction. (There is also a state at which the body is not yet making "enough" ketones, when it is new to the keto state and whereupon not enough carbs are coming in from the low carb diet, and this state of "neverland" is one that can last for a long time before you get into full-blown ketosis, but there are remedies for this...see recommended website for them...) Many people who experience these quit ketogenic diets completely and never attempt them again, because those symptoms are so severe, so good for you for knowing how healthy ketogenic diets are and for sticking it out! Please visit Dr. Peter Attia's website (www.waroninsulin.com) and you will know just how normal this stuff you are experiencing "is". Dr. Attia himself had labored long and hard with the carb flu/withdrawal and having an expert on keto-nutrition is a definite must in cases for anyone who has a metabolic condition. Ketosis is our best line of defense and pretty much our only hope of getting off any weight (if this is one of your goals), due to what Gary Taubes affectionately calls "metabolic derrangment". I wish you the very best, Mary

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on April 08, 2016
at 06:31 PM

If the website was his at one time, Peter doesn't seem to have "waroninsulin" dot com anymore.

You may enjoy reading Peter's stuff on "eatingacademy" dot com but he's de-stressing with his young family (new son) from too many airmiles fund-raising and hasn't done much blogging lately. Older blogs are incredibly useful for the science-minded though!

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Aed9f858d2922b55dd2c58db6e244b23

on April 24, 2012
at 12:13 PM

Ok, here's my two cents: I would cut out the coconut oil regardless of WHY it is having a negative effect on you...It's something I use and love but maybe not for you. You can still be healthy and/or Paleo without it. In regards to the lethargy, I would guess that you are not getting enough carbs from veggies and fruits. Up your intake of fresh vegs/fruits and I would be willing to bet your energy problem will disappear.

-David 6'5" 205lbs 7% body fat Paleo for 4 years Age: 28

E7e7e1c856d4494d4a1b700b6869df90

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on May 01, 2012
at 05:44 PM

... the lethargy comes form the adaptation while the body is switching from carbs to fat for fuel. If you keep feeding carbs you keep postponing the switch. If you really buck down and eat a bit of fat/protein when you get hungry..eat often..until it passes..several days..small doses. This is my 3rd restart in about 15 months. I controlled my carbs to less than 10% fat around 80 % of calories and it has taken 5-6 days..I still feel a bit hungry but cleared head and energy good. experkement a bit and do what helps you as lng as you give up the junk and too many carbs..it will fall in place.

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 24, 2012
at 09:22 AM

I am not a doctor, but my guess is it has something to do with liver. I am saying this because I have the same thing and I react to coconut oil in the same way.

I cannot do oils, period - my liver cannot take them.

If I were you, I would get your liver in balance. How to do it? Not sure, I am struggling with it myself.

I can eat fish, but that's about it for oils and fats. Not much, right?

One thing for sure - do not do anything with coconut oil for a while. Try experimenting with other Paleo approved foods. I do not do well with olive oil either.

Good luck!

1133603ea602c6824da56e8b596c9754

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on April 24, 2012
at 12:51 PM

If your liver is congested oils can be a problem, but coconut oil doesn't require bile acids and is easier for the liver to process, or something to that effect.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 24, 2012
at 01:09 PM

And now I am stuck. Using it as a lotion and absolutely hate it. If you ever need a good moisturizer, go for shea butter - SO MUCH BETTER!!!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on April 24, 2012
at 01:08 PM

That's what I have read and bought two jars. Can you tell my liver that? Because it does not do well with coconut oil.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on May 01, 2012
at 06:25 PM

Thank you for your comment. Unfortunately, I cannot have lemon juice and grapefruit because I have gastric erosion. I am taking herbs now and it seems they are helping.

E7e7e1c856d4494d4a1b700b6869df90

(982)

on May 01, 2012
at 05:49 PM

my liver was quite congested/painful too for several weeks. I fed it differently with ACV/lemon juice/grapefruit/ greens and much lower fat. After a few weeks it felt much better. I restarted back with fats and am monitoring but I actually had 3/4 of a 500 ml whipping cream home made ice cream along with my butter, olive oil etc..a few days ago and it is doing ok. It is always good to increase slowly.

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Cf416725f639ffd1bb90764792ce7b8a

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on April 24, 2012
at 10:17 AM

A 75 gram shake knocks me out of ketosis. Are you doing the shakes during the never ending carb flu you mentioned?

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C4c952554fbdcdc08ca594ed3049e308

on April 24, 2012
at 09:08 AM

Just don't do coconut oil. Problem solved. I don't use it, I only use olive oil; it is very nice and flavorful very luxurious and accessible. I read somewhere that coconut oil is not good for you, I know its a paleo deal, but I just don't incorporate it into my program. Plus, try some yerba mate tea, if your feeling drowsy, maybe it will push you through the low carb flu.

E2b72f1912f777917d8ee6b7fba43c26

(2384)

on April 24, 2012
at 10:14 AM

I second this. Maybe cross reactivity with the coconut seed storage proteins. @TrentMax: If it bothers you, just don't eat it ;) .. There's no magic about coconut oil. Well, you could try MCT Oil, this should have no protein left.

E7e7e1c856d4494d4a1b700b6869df90

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on May 01, 2012
at 06:01 PM

no oil should have protein in it. even people who have peanut allergies should be able to consume peanut oil if processed properly. an organic virgin pressed coconut oil should be a very clean oil without protein remnants.

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51047b6885c2155ea2ed9f40670a806e

on December 27, 2012
at 06:34 PM

I have the same experience with coconut oil, to a lesser degree with Butter, and to a lesser degree with olive oil. I can't do high fat. But I CAN DO MODERATE FAT. First time I took coconut oil I took two tablespoons and washed it down with some tea. I felt like I was hit by a truck. The lethargy, heaviness, fatigue and weakness/dizziness was quite mind-blowing. I didn't know any food could do that to me XD

Yesterday I made a styr fry... with coconut oil. I was SO tired and fatigued. My boyfriend was whining about me being tired all the time. I must say the effect of the coconut oil was less severe than the first time I took it, but was still VERY MUCH there. I just had some butter with Turkey and cheese, I AM TIRED. XD Maybe somethings wrong with my body. I dont know. I will just have to take it easy with the saturated fats I guess. I just feel very fatigued having them in my diet. Grains and legumes generally are bad news for me too though. Im staying modified paleo just gonna have to figure out how to eat.. without dear coconut oil and butter.

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on August 20, 2012
at 05:27 PM

Sounds like candida. The brain fog, the lethargy, the sugar cravings, etc. Contrary to what was previously believed, candida actually thrives on ketones (I know, the little bastards are a maddening fungus). So if you have systemic candida the medicinal effect of the acids in the oil can be nullified when coconut oil and MCT are taken in great quantities along with a VLC diet.

I would suggest try having a little bit of coconut oil, but not enough to go into ketosis, along with a slightly higher amount of root vegetables to up your carbs enough to stay out of ketosis and see how you feel.

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on July 14, 2012
at 08:18 AM

I have got to say the fatigue has nothing to do with your paleo diet and everything to do with the coconut oil. Ever since I started taking coconut oil I have the same reaction, and I've never attempted paleo or atkins-type diet. I doubt it's anything to do with die-off either because it's the same reaction whether I've been on the beck blood cleaner for 2 hours, or after I hit the 60 drops h2o2 point. If you can do those without cleansing reaction and still get fatigued from coconut oil there's something else happening. The comment about eating carbs kinda clicks tho because the fatigue isn't so bad if I take the coconut oil with some apple juice. I've taken all quantities of coconut oil up to a full cup at a time, and the strength of the fatigue scales with the volume of oil. It's so bad at times that I begin to fall asleep while driving, yawning all day sometimes. I would investigate liver function (milk thistle extract) and not the diet.

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D9bea4cd5c1e5383ba39462c2c381fbd

on August 30, 2013
at 10:53 PM

it does the same thing for me; I've just had a teaspoon of coconut oil and I almost immediately started to feel very weak. I felt very uncomfortable in my stomach, my muscles seemed to be very heavy, I had to lie down. I had similar reaction with hemp oil. Right after my high protein breakfast, I took 1 tbsp. of hemp oil. Instantly I felt like somebody drained my energy. I had to lie down too and almost fell asleep. I don't have such reaction with any other oils. I am hypoglycemic, maybe these oils simply lower blood sugar. That's my guess. Coconut oil grows in tropical areas and is most suitable for people living in these areas. Coconut oil is very yin, so I guess it might make some people feel weak if their bodies are weak and exhausted.

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387bd6a81527250548ff705e3fb626b5

on August 27, 2013
at 08:28 AM

High fat meals have been shown to cause fatigue and a slight (but statistically significant) decline in mental acuity. The sleepiness after large meals is usually caused by several components (increased blood flow to the stomach, altered functioning of the liver and kidneys, etc.) and fat digestion is part of that drowsiness you feel. This may especially be the case with you, since you are eating a large amount of protein (both slow and fast digesting whey) as well as a large amount of condensed fats immediately following your nightly fast.

How to fix this? First, try halving the amount of protein and fat you're eating for breakfast. If that doesn't work, move your fat intake to a meal later in the day. I have the same problem with fat and large meals... I get very tired. To fix this, I stopped eating breakfast, and moved my protein/MCT oil intake to the afternoon (around 3:00pm) right before I go home and workout and after I've done most of my work for the day. Post work out, I cook dinner and include coconut oil. Usually after dinner I get very tired, but this is ok, since I will be sleeping a few hours later.

0
093b2e226c1be77c9bdb5d6c524fcd1f

on May 03, 2013
at 09:37 AM

Wow - some really interesting stuff here!

But can someone please explain me: how can ketosis NOT be a natural state for the body to be in when nearly all our ancestors > 10,000 years ago were most likely in ketosis nearly all of the time?

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C28acb5acd88971aa8f711ec1bb729fc

on December 15, 2012
at 04:46 PM

Well I like to poop my pants when I'm Low Carbing... The Coconut Oil makes it slip outta my shorts much quicker :)

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on September 12, 2012
at 11:28 PM

Because ketosis is not a natural or desirable state for your body to be in.

It's very likely that ketosis is the natural default state for humans.

My guess is that you are experiencing the "Atkins Flu."

It lasts a few days when you enter ketosis and it is your body reacting to the change in fuel source from carbs to fat.

My advice would be to switch to a LCHF diet for one month. Go heavy on the Coconut oil and other good saturated fats. Find good sources of Omega 3 oils (fish or even supplements).

Eliminate all simple carbs (if you haven't already) and less protein. (Too much protein can raise blood sugar/insulin through glucosneogenesis).

Hope that helps!

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on August 21, 2012
at 12:10 AM

Why? Because ketosis is not a natural or desirable state for your body to be in.

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on April 08, 2016
at 06:36 PM

Says you! And you're wrong!

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on August 20, 2012
at 07:50 AM

Although you post very little about the rest of your diet, 75g of protein in one meal is massive. The idea of maintaining a successful state of ketosis (reaching it in the first place) is eating 6-7 smaller meals throughout the day, definitely not trying to stay without food as long as you describe! Coconut oil is excellent on a keto-diet as it is pure fat (0 carbohydrates). You should check the carbs content of your protein mix (around 2-3g per 30g serving should be fine). It sounds like your diet is not tweaked as well as it should be! Sleepiness could be from an insulin spyke that somehow accurs with ingestion of carbs. I suggest seeing a dietitian (they won't be keen on KETO though) or a fitness profressional. Massive fatigue is normal during the first weeks of keto, but a KETO diet can only be effective under VERY controlled circumstances. Good luck!

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on May 30, 2012
at 07:02 PM

Hi the coconut oil could be causing fatigue because it is a very potent yeast killer, Caprilic acid and lauric acid are in coconut oil and if it kills off yeast you will have a die off reaction which causes atkins like flu symptems. Start off with just one teaspoon a day and build up to bigger amounts slowly.

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on April 24, 2012
at 11:30 AM

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on April 29, 2012
at 10:39 PM

Oh dear lord. Unspeakable terribleness this page Reeks of. I speak from experience. You can go into ketosis on 6 or so protein shakes a day with a steak at night for four days. Then, in order to keep your metabolism from going the way of a vegetable, you have to have a little rampage day. It's not rocket science. It's biology. But since all the replies this will get will have to do with political correctness and the like, I'll throw it ino overdrive and toss the middle finger up. Hey OP, do yourself a divot and go to the Haos and Pain blogspot page and research his predator diet Series. It's the best source of factual AND CITED reference material on ketosis I haw ever come across. It took me from 260 to 200 and sub 10% bf. you just have to do it and not be a pansy. And for all the haters who will say I should be kind and nice, go play in traffic. This guy has not been kind or nice on his body, he has filled it full of crap for years and now he had to pay the price. Luckily, when done correctly, the price still allows a little fun a la a Rampage day. So suck it up and read the blog - only DON'T do it at work. There are some pictures on there that might make an IT guys head split open. But Jamie is a genius a referencing factual data. So tell all the cordless on here to fuck off.

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E34989381a8c520ea53193f5760e9d2a

on April 24, 2012
at 10:06 AM

You are going to be going through different shocks to the system regardless of what you eats hike going for a ketosis state. This is your body repenting for all the years of eating the crap you probably ate to get to that weight. Sorry, I'm not going to sugar coat it. Your hormonal response mechanism is fried from all the crap that it has had to deal with, and getting back to a normal system is going to take time. I would even through in a few days of protein sparing modified fasts and just consume 6-8 protein shakes per day and nothing else. Make sure you are taking a multivitamin and some kind of fiber pill - I use only flax seed pills. Once your body is in full ketosis for a few weeks then you can do a chest window of 3 hours every 4 days and consume a ton of whatever. This will cycle calories and keep your metabolism up. I go four days of 6-7 protein shakes a day and then at night eat a steak. On two of those days I eat chicken or lean steal for lunch. Then te fifth day I eat bacon and eggs and a little carb dying morning and lunch, and then go berserk for a few hours. I'm talking beer and burgers and pizza. Then I start over. I'm 10 pct body fat and I work out doing Crossfit and Olympic lifting and my PRs have gone thought the roof. Energy all day.

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on April 24, 2012
at 11:48 AM

don't call it a fast when you're consuming 6-8 protein shakes. Do you know what a fast is? You could call it muscle-sparing fasting if you were only consuming BCAAs, but, you're not. Also, three hours of going hog wild for someone who is already obese and trying to develop sound eating habits (which by most definitions means whole,real food) is bad advice.

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on April 24, 2012
at 12:56 PM

Wow, that's some really crappy advice.

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