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An extraordinary way to lose weight fast (but it is dangerous!!!)

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 16, 2012 at 11:40 PM

I don't want to be misunderstood or even banned, but:

  1. I had insulin resistance and abdominal obesity (a year ago). IR was measured as twice as normal. At that time I did not know that.
  2. Later I started to eat lots of candies and other high-sugar sweeties. I could eat up to 0.5 kg of them with black tea during the evening! I did not know how much my blood glucose were at that point.
  3. I continued to eat all those sweets for a week or so.
  4. Finally, I got those symptoms that type 1 diabetics usually describe! I had polyuria at night (2-3 times!), polydipsia after. I left at home for a week because I suspected some infection like flu. But then everything went fine by itself! After a few days I recovered and what is the main point of all of this: I lost 10 kg in a week!!!!! That was fat ??? I can tell it for sure, I have a device which calculates bone/fat/water content in the body. And it cleary indicated I lost fat!

So, can this method be recommended for someone who is overweight and has prediabetes?

(I would call it 'sugar-induced ketosis and weight loss'. Yes :) )

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 18, 2012
at 04:50 AM

Get off the bacon, MathGirl, you probably want to go vegetarian. The dopamine will brighten up your day.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 17, 2012
at 05:45 PM

If you read the FAQs it clearly states that appropriate questions are "related to Paleolithic and/or Primal diet, exercise and lifestyle". Inducing ketoacidosis via overconsumption of sugar, even if for supposed therapeutic weight loss purposes does not fall within that realm. Questions do occasionally pop up that do not relate, but the volunteer moderators try close and erase those as they come up to maintain the focus and integrity of the forum.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:58 PM

Get off your soapbox, Harry.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:22 PM

You mean like unlimited consumption of nitrosamine?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 17, 2012
at 10:55 AM

Happy Now, there are many questions asked here that do not relate to paleo diets. And as one of the previous commenters said, “This is a legit question, which deserves to be answered, irrespective of whether he is inducing a high degree of insulin resistance which may be dangerous (or not)”. People do not come here for direct medical advice and if someone is stupid enough to do the same things without medical supervision, it's his/her own responsibility, I think.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 17, 2012
at 08:51 AM

I was under the impression that promoting dangerous behaviors was not allowed here.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 17, 2012
at 08:49 AM

I didn't downvote you, although maybe I should have. You did a very risky experiment without medical supervision, no measuring of blood sugar levels, and no labs during that week to distinguish between ketosis and ketoacidosis. In ketosis people can sometimes lose up to a pound per day, in ketoacidosis (which I believe you experienced because you maxed out your insulin response) you can lose weight much more rapidly. This question doesn't even relate to a paleo diet because candy/refined sugar is on every forbidden foods list regarding paleo nutrition, you should be happy we've humored it.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 07:11 AM

This is a legit question, which deserves to be answered, irrespective of whether he is inducing a high degree of insulin resistance which may be dangerous (or not).

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41757)

on October 17, 2012
at 01:34 AM

What a bunch of nonsense.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 01:01 AM

Sorry for my awkward English! I would rather say it in my native Russian :)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:57 AM

JayJay, it's only your own problem not believing me. I described my own experience that worked. And I warned others. People with brains will decide if they need that or not. Other will complain and cry :)

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on October 17, 2012
at 12:53 AM

You forgot to mention CRACK!

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:48 AM

^ Well Ok I vote to close cause I actually think OP is F.O.S.... and don't believe a word of it.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:46 AM

Yes, that was weight loss, once! Not regular! Keeping the weight is much more easier than loosing it in traditional ways.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:41 AM

Someone wise enough will read the subject and then the body of the post before he making any decision. Unlike some very nervous people :(

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:35 AM

Happy Now, how is that? I told my story and I used forced ketosis (yes, that was a forced way to use fat!) and I got good results — 10 kgs off! Just fine! The same place, same resource, other topics — they discuss dietary ketosis which leads to the EXACTLY SAME EFFECT — weight loss using fat! That's what I really did with my experiment. But why I'm minused for that? That's crazy!

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:31 AM

Lol...yeah, I'm gonna vote to close just in case someone mistakes this for a serious Q or A.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:29 AM

Yes, I have labs every 3 months. This includes liver and kidney markers, detailed lipid profile, detailed bilirubin profile, glucose, HB1Ac, fasting insulin level. Also pancreatic functionality was measured. All tests were fine.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:27 AM

Point taken, read the subject line too fast and thought you had question marks up there for some reason. Again, I think you are lucky to be alive, and the weight loss you described pathologic, not health promoting. Food poisoning, dehydration, HIV, and cancer cause rapid weight loss too, but like this I could never recommend in a million years.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:21 AM

Happy Now, what you descibe is really like coma. You mention symptoms, but that's not the point! I did not ask if that was dangerous. I said it was dangerous — in the subject of the post! Please be more attentive next time.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:16 AM

You asked if what you did was dangerous. Yes it was dangerous, and the symptoms you listed indicate you were on the verge of inducing a diabetic coma. Warning signs of diabetic coma can include: Increased thirst Increased urination High fever Weakness Drowsiness Altered mental state Headache Restlessness Inability to speak Visual problems Hallucinations Paralysis

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:11 AM

I'm not saying you are in a diabetic coma, and not judging, I am saying when blood sugar spikes high enough you can put yourself in a diabetic coma. I think you got very lucky just feeling flu-like, and should be counting your lucky stars you didn't wake up in the hospital as many diabetics/near diabetics have after consuming more sugar than their body's could cope with.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:11 AM

BTW, I'm not type 1 diabetic. I had my tests for C-peptide and it was normal, not low. I have my own insulin and it's ok.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:08 AM

This is not a diabetic coma, hey! This is a resource where everyone can share his/her experiences in terms of paleo and not be judged like this! :(

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:05 AM

I did lost 10 kgs of fat — my electronic weigh tells this. Before the experiment I had 122 kgs, and today I have 110! I follow low carb diet and my weight do not change. Even if I'm forced to eat carbs, I'm not going above 111,5 kg. And that's very good! At the same time my blood pressure is somewhat normal ranging between 110/70 and 130/85 when I'm excited :)

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:02 AM

Have you had labs done to confirm everything went back to normal? You might actually be diabetic now after that stunt.

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 16, 2012
at 11:58 PM

I doubt a diabetic coma is the best place to enjoy weightloss from.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:21 AM

Happy Now, what you descibe is really like coma. You mention symptoms, but that's not the point! I did not ask if that was dangerous. I said it was dangerous — in the subject of the post! Please be more attentive next time.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 17, 2012
at 08:49 AM

I didn't downvote you, although maybe I should have. You did a very risky experiment without medical supervision, no measuring of blood sugar levels, and no labs during that week to distinguish between ketosis and ketoacidosis. In ketosis people can sometimes lose up to a pound per day, in ketoacidosis (which I believe you experienced because you maxed out your insulin response) you can lose weight much more rapidly. This question doesn't even relate to a paleo diet because candy/refined sugar is on every forbidden foods list regarding paleo nutrition, you should be happy we've humored it.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:11 AM

I'm not saying you are in a diabetic coma, and not judging, I am saying when blood sugar spikes high enough you can put yourself in a diabetic coma. I think you got very lucky just feeling flu-like, and should be counting your lucky stars you didn't wake up in the hospital as many diabetics/near diabetics have after consuming more sugar than their body's could cope with.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:08 AM

This is not a diabetic coma, hey! This is a resource where everyone can share his/her experiences in terms of paleo and not be judged like this! :(

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:27 AM

Point taken, read the subject line too fast and thought you had question marks up there for some reason. Again, I think you are lucky to be alive, and the weight loss you described pathologic, not health promoting. Food poisoning, dehydration, HIV, and cancer cause rapid weight loss too, but like this I could never recommend in a million years.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 10:55 AM

Happy Now, there are many questions asked here that do not relate to paleo diets. And as one of the previous commenters said, “This is a legit question, which deserves to be answered, irrespective of whether he is inducing a high degree of insulin resistance which may be dangerous (or not)”. People do not come here for direct medical advice and if someone is stupid enough to do the same things without medical supervision, it's his/her own responsibility, I think.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:35 AM

Happy Now, how is that? I told my story and I used forced ketosis (yes, that was a forced way to use fat!) and I got good results — 10 kgs off! Just fine! The same place, same resource, other topics — they discuss dietary ketosis which leads to the EXACTLY SAME EFFECT — weight loss using fat! That's what I really did with my experiment. But why I'm minused for that? That's crazy!

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:16 AM

You asked if what you did was dangerous. Yes it was dangerous, and the symptoms you listed indicate you were on the verge of inducing a diabetic coma. Warning signs of diabetic coma can include: Increased thirst Increased urination High fever Weakness Drowsiness Altered mental state Headache Restlessness Inability to speak Visual problems Hallucinations Paralysis

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 17, 2012
at 05:45 PM

If you read the FAQs it clearly states that appropriate questions are "related to Paleolithic and/or Primal diet, exercise and lifestyle". Inducing ketoacidosis via overconsumption of sugar, even if for supposed therapeutic weight loss purposes does not fall within that realm. Questions do occasionally pop up that do not relate, but the volunteer moderators try close and erase those as they come up to maintain the focus and integrity of the forum.

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68294383ced9a0eafc16133aa80d1905

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on October 16, 2012
at 11:51 PM

Sugar-induced ketosis is NOT safe. However, I'm not sure this can actually work like you state. While you may be Insulin resistant, you're not a Type 1 Diabetic. All you are doing with this is enhancing your Insulin resistance and wrecking your health LONG-TERM. Here's my take.

In the short-term, maybe you lost some fat. I'd think much of that would be water, especially if you are urinating a lot. So I doubt you lost 10 kg of fat. Impossible. With that said, lets say you COULD lose fat doing this, which again, comes as a trade off in health. Is it going to last? If you aren't changing your habits that got you there in the first place, your body is going to put the water weight back on within 24 hours and the fat back on pretty quickly. Then what? Another cycle of this?

In the end, you might lose a LITTLE fat if you're somehow restricting caloric intake despite eating all processed sugars, but you're also losing muscle and water. The rebound effect, even if your weight doesn't go up higher than it was before, is going to leave you in WORSE shape in-terms of body composition and metabolically.

Bottom line. Ask any legit Type 1 Diabetic who lost a ton of weight before diagnosis. It isn't pleasant nor is it permanent unless the correct dietary changes and if-needed, Insulin supplementation are input. These people will probably also tell you that despite "losing weight", you feel like crap before getting control of Type 1 and it isn't all that peachy even if your skinnier.

I'm down-voting your post because this is just a crazy way to try to drop fat...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:05 AM

I did lost 10 kgs of fat — my electronic weigh tells this. Before the experiment I had 122 kgs, and today I have 110! I follow low carb diet and my weight do not change. Even if I'm forced to eat carbs, I'm not going above 111,5 kg. And that's very good! At the same time my blood pressure is somewhat normal ranging between 110/70 and 130/85 when I'm excited :)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:11 AM

BTW, I'm not type 1 diabetic. I had my tests for C-peptide and it was normal, not low. I have my own insulin and it's ok.

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on October 17, 2012
at 12:04 AM

weight loss...maybe, optimum health...F no

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:46 AM

Yes, that was weight loss, once! Not regular! Keeping the weight is much more easier than loosing it in traditional ways.

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