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Alcohol use with ketogenic diet

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 31, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Not sure this is the right place to pose my question but I am hoping some one can help. My husband recently began a ketogenic diet. He read somewhere that vodka and whiskey are doable on this diet. However, he's really overdoing it. It seems like he's always hammered and I'm worried. He argues that because its low on calories and fits into his diet it must be alright. Are there harmful side effects from drinking this much while on this diet? I am aware of the harmful issues from just being an alcoholic but would love to know if it might be any worse because of the ketosis. Thanks!

4610451431ec7155c87a5698be682a95

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on September 02, 2013
at 07:39 PM

I see your points and can agree, but still maintain this guy's gotta a problem with the hooch.

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on September 01, 2013
at 09:22 PM

Additionally, paleohacks is not al-anon. If she is simply looking for ammo to make him quit, I gave that above. She could also bring up how alcohol adversely affects the liver and sleep which affect weight gain/loss. Orgs like al-anon probably have better ammo than I on that subject. I try to answer the question asked if possible. I was not ignoring what she was saying. I just was't relevant info to the question she was asking.

8292546789ca48c32ead34c6e884d059

on September 01, 2013
at 09:14 PM

I seriously doubt a keto diet would make him alcoholic. It might make it more noticeable since the alcohol its a bit faster. Was she keeping track of how much he was drinking before vs. now? Was he? Did changing from Beer to Whiskey turn him into a major dickhead? Or is he just drunk and sloppy faster than before? We don't have the data to say his an alcoholic. While she was remarking on unfavorable behaviors, she was asking about health issues. Which is what I attempted to answer. If she wants to tell him to knock it off with the sauce, that's her business and his.

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on September 01, 2013
at 02:49 AM

"It is also not advised to consume booze with omega 6 fats"...& omega-3's, at least in mice anyway, http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2010/09/is-it-smart-to-drink/

4610451431ec7155c87a5698be682a95

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on September 01, 2013
at 02:10 AM

Are you all totally ignoring what this woman is saying?! "I hope someone can help" "he's really overdoing it" "it seems like he's always hammered". He's argumentative. "Are there harmful side effects from drinking this much..." This lady is married to an alcoholic. Save your ....it can reduce the effectiveness bullshit. This lady needs help and advice for her ALCHOLHOLIC husband.....

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on September 01, 2013
at 01:07 AM

Ethanol (alcohol) and fructose (sugar) are similar in metabolic behaviour and liver impairment; except ethanol has additional neurotoxic effects on brain function. If your brain is pickled it isn't going to get full benefits of running on ketones.

The direct effect of ethanol on general low carb nutrition is complex. A general gist would be: Tea-totalling is safe; modest alcohol is probably safe; binge drinking is certainly not safe.

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4610451431ec7155c87a5698be682a95

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on September 01, 2013
at 12:19 AM

I've read that alcohol will throw one out of ketosis pretty fast, no matter it's caloric content. It is also not advised to consume booze with omega 6 fats as it can hurt the liver so make sure he's not eating a bunch of nuts or food cooked in seed oils while drinking. I don't want to speculate too much, but it sounds like he might have some issues with drinking and probably needs to sort that before worrying about his state of ketosis.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on September 01, 2013
at 02:49 AM

"It is also not advised to consume booze with omega 6 fats"...& omega-3's, at least in mice anyway, http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2010/09/is-it-smart-to-drink/

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8292546789ca48c32ead34c6e884d059

on September 01, 2013
at 01:58 AM

I generally eat between 20 and 60 carbs a day. You do get drunker in ketosis and pay for it a little worse the next day. He might not be drinking that much either. Its also a very different drunk than drinking sugary alcoholic drinks.

He should track how much he's drinking because alcohol can reduce the effectiveness of the diet. You're not burning fat if your burning alcohol.

4610451431ec7155c87a5698be682a95

(1122)

on September 02, 2013
at 07:39 PM

I see your points and can agree, but still maintain this guy's gotta a problem with the hooch.

8292546789ca48c32ead34c6e884d059

on September 01, 2013
at 09:14 PM

I seriously doubt a keto diet would make him alcoholic. It might make it more noticeable since the alcohol its a bit faster. Was she keeping track of how much he was drinking before vs. now? Was he? Did changing from Beer to Whiskey turn him into a major dickhead? Or is he just drunk and sloppy faster than before? We don't have the data to say his an alcoholic. While she was remarking on unfavorable behaviors, she was asking about health issues. Which is what I attempted to answer. If she wants to tell him to knock it off with the sauce, that's her business and his.

4610451431ec7155c87a5698be682a95

(1122)

on September 01, 2013
at 02:10 AM

Are you all totally ignoring what this woman is saying?! "I hope someone can help" "he's really overdoing it" "it seems like he's always hammered". He's argumentative. "Are there harmful side effects from drinking this much..." This lady is married to an alcoholic. Save your ....it can reduce the effectiveness bullshit. This lady needs help and advice for her ALCHOLHOLIC husband.....

8292546789ca48c32ead34c6e884d059

on September 01, 2013
at 09:22 PM

Additionally, paleohacks is not al-anon. If she is simply looking for ammo to make him quit, I gave that above. She could also bring up how alcohol adversely affects the liver and sleep which affect weight gain/loss. Orgs like al-anon probably have better ammo than I on that subject. I try to answer the question asked if possible. I was not ignoring what she was saying. I just was't relevant info to the question she was asking.

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on September 01, 2013
at 12:06 AM

In general, the less carbs you eat the easier you get drunk. There have been a few threads on that subject here if you search it. I suspect it's due to having low triglycerides, but don't have any study to back that up.

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