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4 days on VLC - suddenly feels happy?

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Created May 09, 2012 at 2:57 AM

Hi! I've been on paleo VLC since sunday, so this is my fourth day. Monday through tuesday i felt terrible, like I was about to puke all the time. Earlier, when I woke up today, I still felt really bad. But now, for the past 3 hours I've felt perfect. Full of energy and I almost can't stop smiling.

I've read that I'm supposed to feel quite bad for the next couple of weeks - what's going on? Am I really through the first phase of ketosis already? :S

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on May 11, 2012
at 09:23 PM

Re: libido. Mine's pretty good for a 48-year-old broad, I think. I sure feel a lot friskier in a healthy body than I did in my poor old beat-up meat puppet, even if it was younger back then.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

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on May 11, 2012
at 09:21 PM

I'll follow Ambimorph (as usual) and "argue to the contrary," lol. I've been VLC since April 2007, and XLC/ZC since September 2009, and have also never felt better in my life, including childhood. I'm maintaining a 70-lb weight loss with ease, and take zero medications anymore, when I had been taking five (two for depression and bipolar, two for asthma, and pain meds for what was looking like RA, but I never needed to push through to diagnosis). Additionally, my labs are great. There are lots of VLC folks with similar stories, but I think the "problem" VLCers self-select onto sites like this.

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on May 10, 2012
at 10:31 PM

Was Matt Lalonde keto-adapted? Because once you are keto-adapted, your peak fat oxidation doubles or triples. But while you are adjusting you will bonk.

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on May 10, 2012
at 10:28 PM

Libido is complex to evaluate, since I had just had a baby when I started. I nursed for almost 2 years, and that tends to tank libido. But it's good now.

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on May 10, 2012
at 09:22 PM

Wowza, Mat Lalonde went no-carb. He claims that he blacked out from lack of carbohydrate due to pushing his body too hard cardio-wise.

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on May 10, 2012
at 09:19 PM

Any other benefits Ambimorph? Libido?

97ffbac59e88bdff6495d0a9b6f70ff7

(555)

on May 10, 2012
at 09:19 PM

Any other benifits Ambimorph? What about libido?

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

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on May 09, 2012
at 02:48 PM

Yes, I've been in ketosis for about 2.5 years (not just ketosis, but eating essentially nothing but meat), and I feel better than ever in my life. In particular, my mood is better and more stable.

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on May 09, 2012
at 05:27 AM

Jonas Colting & Simon Whitfield don't seem to regret it at all. They just keep on winning. Read Volek's new book on performance.

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on May 09, 2012
at 04:49 AM

You probably should give it a few weeks before making any judgement on the effects of VLC.

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at 04:47 AM

Congrats I guess.

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on May 09, 2012
at 03:01 AM

The initial period of keto-adaption can range from a couple of days to a few weeks - for me it was about a week. I no longer do sustained keto but now can go in and out with ease. Consider yourself lucky! :)

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on May 09, 2012
at 05:08 AM

Going from glycolysis to ketosis is basically what people refer to as the "low carb flu."

Low Carb Flu makes you feel like you're dying, literally. The low carb flu gets less intense after repeated voyages into ketosis.

Once you actually get into significant ketosis, you feel great and almost caffeinated.

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on May 09, 2012
at 04:33 AM

I haven't really been VLC since going paleo (I like fruit and sweet potatoes too much) but I used to do the Atkin's Diet all the time and did VLC for a little over 3 months one time. Lost 30-40 pounds and felt pretty good the whole time, no problem. I did often have to remind myself to eat (very diminished appetite) and probably worked out kind of "normal" (30 mins on an elliptical 3-5 days a week sort of thing). It's been really hard for me to do VLC on Paleo, not because of the Paleo, but I seem to have way more of a hardcore sugar addiction that I did back then I think. But VLC does tend to make me feel pretty damn good.

Possible contributing factors: I have fairly severe reactive hypoglycemia. VLC is the only way I've ever been able to go hours without eating and not be on the verge of going into a diabetic coma (which has happened a few times as well). Even with some more carbs now on Paleo, my hypoglycemia is vastly improved, I just get hungry more often. I also have issues with depression and anxiety, (diagnosed bipolar I) and I find these symptoms seem to be helped as well, and I do tend to feel happier and have a more even mood (still ups and downs but not as severe). I also have Hashimoto's hypothyroidism, though I wasn't diagnosed during the Atkin's VLC phase and not sure if this would have anything to do with it.

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on May 09, 2012
at 11:17 AM

It depends a bit on what you where eating before as well. The first couple of days are typically withdrawal symptoms. People tend to mix up low carb flu with stopping all sugars, sweeteners (and other chemicals), caffeine, gluten etc. If you've been a good clean diet and you simply skip the rice or potatoes for a day or two then you probably wouldn't feel too bad at all - unless those carbs made up like 60% of your food, in which case you would probably notice the difference and perhaps struggle to adjust to completely new meals. As significant, your last meal could leave things a mess in your stomach - there's a difference between your whole body wanting to puke and just your stomach writhing around in discomfort.

In any event, it's normal to feel fine after a few days. You're not fully-adapted yet and may struggle a bit if you push too hard but you're certainly up to being conscious and smiling - that really doesn't take too much energy.

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on May 09, 2012
at 03:06 AM

From what I've read on PH after being around for a bit, many people who went VLC for an extended period of time regret doing it.

Does anyone want to argue the contrary? I'd love to hear someone who went VLC (or even LC for that matter) for an extended period of time and has had good benefits from it (benefits besides weight loss are what I am most curious about).

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18696)

on May 09, 2012
at 02:48 PM

Yes, I've been in ketosis for about 2.5 years (not just ketosis, but eating essentially nothing but meat), and I feel better than ever in my life. In particular, my mood is better and more stable.

97ffbac59e88bdff6495d0a9b6f70ff7

(555)

on May 10, 2012
at 09:22 PM

Wowza, Mat Lalonde went no-carb. He claims that he blacked out from lack of carbohydrate due to pushing his body too hard cardio-wise.

80890193d74240cab6dda920665bfb6c

(1528)

on May 09, 2012
at 05:27 AM

Jonas Colting & Simon Whitfield don't seem to regret it at all. They just keep on winning. Read Volek's new book on performance.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18696)

on May 10, 2012
at 10:31 PM

Was Matt Lalonde keto-adapted? Because once you are keto-adapted, your peak fat oxidation doubles or triples. But while you are adjusting you will bonk.

97ffbac59e88bdff6495d0a9b6f70ff7

(555)

on May 10, 2012
at 09:19 PM

Any other benefits Ambimorph? Libido?

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18696)

on May 10, 2012
at 10:28 PM

Libido is complex to evaluate, since I had just had a baby when I started. I nursed for almost 2 years, and that tends to tank libido. But it's good now.

97ffbac59e88bdff6495d0a9b6f70ff7

(555)

on May 10, 2012
at 09:19 PM

Any other benifits Ambimorph? What about libido?

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on May 11, 2012
at 09:23 PM

Re: libido. Mine's pretty good for a 48-year-old broad, I think. I sure feel a lot friskier in a healthy body than I did in my poor old beat-up meat puppet, even if it was younger back then.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on May 11, 2012
at 09:21 PM

I'll follow Ambimorph (as usual) and "argue to the contrary," lol. I've been VLC since April 2007, and XLC/ZC since September 2009, and have also never felt better in my life, including childhood. I'm maintaining a 70-lb weight loss with ease, and take zero medications anymore, when I had been taking five (two for depression and bipolar, two for asthma, and pain meds for what was looking like RA, but I never needed to push through to diagnosis). Additionally, my labs are great. There are lots of VLC folks with similar stories, but I think the "problem" VLCers self-select onto sites like this.

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