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4 day binge, yikes, a few questions :D

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created March 17, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Hi everyone,

Uhm well I want to keep this rather brief so ill jump right into it :P been paleo/primal for like 8 months straight and pretty much have kept it 99% strict and been going really well my health fitness and overall everything has improved drastically and i feel amazing, I have also lost around 30-40 lbs in this time, but i also beleive i have added some decent muscle mass to since my lifts have increased. Now getting to the present, I have worked out that i want to lose, say, roughly 15 lbs more to get to a body fat % that I feel I should be at (8-10%) i want to be lean, strong, healthy. not really going for the sub 5% 'striated glutes' body builder sort of thing here. So obviously over this period I have become fat adapted, i have fasted for up to 50 hours, purely as a personal experiment sort of thing, i can go long times with out getting hungry and do not crave carbs. To help drop the last lbs i want to i have gone towards ketosis and beleive i have been in this state for the last 4 weeks due to keto breath and a few other signs. calories have been quite a lot lower then usual and i have not been hungry at all to be honest. This has been going really well. Now, the situation. As the title states I have recently had a 4 day binge, it was my friends birthday he had a little house party/barbeque event and I had intended to keep it as primal/paleo as possible, and i did, untill about 6pm when the birthday cake came out and of course i was offered a piece, and to spare myself the awkwardness of turning down a slice (im sure you guys know what im talking about here) i had a little slice, then all of a sudden i dont know what happened.... before i knew it i was all over the cakes,fizzy drinks, biscuits, ice cream , alcohol, more cake, grains, gluten, dairy, sugar, excessive carb intake, hydrogenated fat, etc.....basically it was a disater. the next day we went out to the cinemas and a similar process repeated and....at home over the weekend i carried on for another 2 days...

SO.... a 4 day binge, i do not know how that piece of cake had such an affect, obviusly im not blaming the cake, i ate the food, and to be honest i am not feeling guilty to much. But what i am most concerned about is that, i have incredible stomach pains, i feel intensely bloated, feeling way over heated (high body temp), i probably had like a 10,000 calorie surplus if not more, and my main concern.... Will I have become Un fat adapted? I want to return to ketosis on monday but i feel that my body may have converted back to carb burning and that i have un done all my paleo/primal work. I know my gut flora is probably annihilated and that my pancreas, having pumped so much insulin and cortisal and whatever else. So yeah,

Any tips, advice, will i have lost my fat adaption, how long will it take to recover completely, how long to lose the bloat?

Thanks for reading folks ! (wow first time i have written 'folk' before, this paleo stuff really catches on xD )

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Nace, Amen! Amazing how easy that sounds and how hard it really is!

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on April 02, 2013
at 05:05 PM

Yes, AxialGentleman, I do eat when I'm hungry. The profound change for me has been NOT eating unless I am.

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on April 02, 2013
at 03:35 PM

This sounds like good advice, but I'd caution you to eat when you get hungry and not push it too far. Remember that your goal is to get back into a healthy, sustainable set of habits, not to punish yourself by overcompensating and going into eating disorder / yo-yo dieting territory.

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on March 17, 2013
at 10:57 PM

2-3 days to get back into keto- and 1-2 weeks to get rid of the extra lbs and water retention. Drink green tea with lemon and ginger for cleansing and digestive properties and get back on that wagon :)

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on March 17, 2013
at 10:33 PM

You should be able to go back with minimal pain. The bloat sounds like gut flora that have been fed by sugar and starch. I would suggest going with some fermented foods and just resuming where you left off. Other then that, no more cake ;)

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on April 01, 2013
at 12:24 AM

Believe me, I've experienced this. The easiest recovery for me is to drink my usual beverages and not eat any solid food until I feel actively hungry.

Now, your body may not be like mine. If you get hungry, just eat your usual paleo foods. But I don't get hungry for some time after a processed food binge. The last time it happened to me, which happily is now a few months ago, I went all one day and about half of the next before my gut finally recovered enough to send true hunger signals. Up to then, the last thing it needed was more food to handle.

I never got weak or tired during my fast; in fact, as time went on I felt better and better. Once I got hungry, I ate whatever paleo foods I felt hungry for and quickly settled back to normal.

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on April 02, 2013
at 05:05 PM

Yes, AxialGentleman, I do eat when I'm hungry. The profound change for me has been NOT eating unless I am.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

Nace, Amen! Amazing how easy that sounds and how hard it really is!

72cf727474b8bf815fdc505e58cadfea

on April 02, 2013
at 03:35 PM

This sounds like good advice, but I'd caution you to eat when you get hungry and not push it too far. Remember that your goal is to get back into a healthy, sustainable set of habits, not to punish yourself by overcompensating and going into eating disorder / yo-yo dieting territory.

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