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Hack Jack Kronk's K2

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created November 01, 2011 at 7:47 PM

So, should Jack Kronk take K2? How much? Has he been doing it? Has it helped?

http://jackkruse.com/osteoporosis-part-one/#comment-10032

"@Jeff It depends upon our guts. Think about our friend Jack Kronk on PH. He is a perfect example of a paleo person who is ripped up but has a very low HDL and leaky gut. This means his K2 recycle is busted. No matter how much good stuff he eats he does not get its benefit with daily huge intakes. We are only what we ingest. This is where the advice of Dr. Guyenet kind of stopped when he recommended a need of only 45mcgs of K2 a day. That recommendation is totally made with a proper context. Our daily needs of Vitamin K2 are low if we are properly recycling it. Most of us are not. Most patients have never even heard of an osteocalcin test and most docs dont even know what it monitors. The story requires a deeper understanding to conquer it."

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on June 26, 2012
at 04:23 PM

I agree, and I also would move to Mk4, which is a more potent form and has different kinds of benefits than Mk7 and K1. BTW, regarding your saturated fat intake intolerance, could this be what it's wrong with me too? http://paleohacks.com/questions/86696/high-triglycerides-and-cholesterol

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on June 26, 2012
at 02:46 PM

Fermented foods have K2 Mk7, Jack Kruse mostly evangelizes Mk4, which is different, and it's extremely rare in our diet.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

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on May 01, 2012
at 03:10 PM

By taking a supplement, you can better quantify what you're supplementing and compare to how things are working for you. You can eat/drink items, but you don't really know how much you are taking.

276a5e631b62f8e0793987c0496364bb

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on May 01, 2012
at 02:53 PM

You forgot grass fed butter.

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on May 01, 2012
at 11:41 AM

One user asking a question about two other users. Weird.

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on April 17, 2012
at 02:17 PM

Look closely at kimchi. What does it have? Are you sure there is no MSG or HFCS? Aside from having a ton of nightshades for someone with autoimmunity.

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on April 03, 2012
at 11:45 AM

Intolerance to dairy and spicy.

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531b053b68e92ac509fc1544f88dc103

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on June 26, 2012
at 03:04 PM

I'm also very lean, somewhat muscular, and extremely active. Unfortunately, my HDL is pathetic (usually between 20-35). I've taken every supplement and food known to boost HDL with no success. Therefore, I take 100-200mcgs of K2-MK7 a day religiously as a counter measure to keep my arteries clean and clear.

The idea of relying on daily Kerif or butter for K2 is silly and unreliable as far as dosing is concerned. Also, I'm one of those people that is sensitive to saturated fat intake. For me, it DOES raise my LDL while my HDL stays down.

I take K2, magnesium, pycnogenol, hawthorn, hibiscus, fruit anti-oxidants, resveratrol, multi vitamins, zyflamend, astaxanthin, sage, raw cacao, whey protein, tomato extract, and a host of other supplements to protect my heart. I also work out 5 days a week.

As great as the paleo diet is, I don't rely on it as the one-stop solution against heart disease. There's nothing wrong with taking supplements as an extra precaution.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on June 26, 2012
at 04:23 PM

I agree, and I also would move to Mk4, which is a more potent form and has different kinds of benefits than Mk7 and K1. BTW, regarding your saturated fat intake intolerance, could this be what it's wrong with me too? http://paleohacks.com/questions/86696/high-triglycerides-and-cholesterol

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on June 26, 2012
at 02:05 PM

I would like opinions on this too as someone with osteoporosis ( pre-menopause ) and probably a leaky gut should I supplement k2 on top of butter, high vitamin butter oil etc maybe a more quantifiable supplement? Sorry, not so much an answer as another question.

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on April 03, 2012
at 07:45 AM

Why take a supplement? Why not just eat kimchee and drink kefir?

7841848bd0c27c64353c583fb7971242

(7275)

on April 03, 2012
at 11:45 AM

Intolerance to dairy and spicy.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5152)

on April 17, 2012
at 02:17 PM

Look closely at kimchi. What does it have? Are you sure there is no MSG or HFCS? Aside from having a ton of nightshades for someone with autoimmunity.

276a5e631b62f8e0793987c0496364bb

(1644)

on May 01, 2012
at 02:53 PM

You forgot grass fed butter.

5e36f73c3f95eb4ea13a009f4936449f

(8280)

on May 01, 2012
at 03:10 PM

By taking a supplement, you can better quantify what you're supplementing and compare to how things are working for you. You can eat/drink items, but you don't really know how much you are taking.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on June 26, 2012
at 02:46 PM

Fermented foods have K2 Mk7, Jack Kruse mostly evangelizes Mk4, which is different, and it's extremely rare in our diet.

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