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Vegetable juicing...pros/cons?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 21, 2011 at 2:52 PM

I have an extraction juicer (taking out most of the vegetable "meat" - unlike a blender or a VitaMix type process) and thought this might be a good way of getting additional nutrients from vegetables I don't readily like to prepare or eat.

Now, I get it: I'm missing out on a lot of soluble fiber this way, but I DO eat a lot of other veggies, there are just some (like the leafy greens of kale, turnip and mustard greens, spinach and beets) I want the nutritional benefit of eating, but I'd rather drink them and get them done with quickly!

So, the "real" question is whether or not juice gets you all of the benefits of eating that vegetable, aside from the fiber aspect I've already outlined.

And, on another track, has anyone else who has investigated juicing recipes and other nutritional aspects found how completely inane some of the information is? It's like it is being written by a 1950's comic book advertising copywriter: "This magical Beet Juice Blood Tonic is just the thing to add vim, vigor and vitality to those worn-out blood cells! Do what Charles Atlas does THREE TIMES PER DAY and detoxify your colon with our Cucumber Master Cleanse!"

E565e11cf32b38ab1f45086c1e0205f7

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on March 08, 2013
at 11:41 PM

I've heard as well that without the fiber, your body can absorb nutrients more efficiently. I've wondered if that's true,

F31d10b54b31428e189d9b771bf7b1d1

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on May 21, 2012
at 04:16 PM

I have been juicing for the past 1.5 years. It may not be the be-all and the end-all, but it comes close. Notice that biochemically it is all very close to paleo. Where it parts from paleo is juicing sweet fruits. During my previous raw juice fast (where I lost 23 pounds), if I were to juice and drink sweet fruits, it made me very hungry in about an hour. But veggies, although not even close to being as tasty, did not make me hungry. Sweet fruits are an invention of the agricultural revolution. Wild fruits would work better. Cucumber, spinach, celery, cabbage juice, not so much.

F31d10b54b31428e189d9b771bf7b1d1

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on May 21, 2012
at 04:08 PM

Currently I am doing heavy duty raw juice fasting (+ 3 eggs & kefir) to lose weight. This would fit under the heading of recovering from the agricultural diet. But we can never fully recover because (1) we are weak-willed, and (2) so many of our paleo foods are strongly impacted by agriculture. Consequently, I will be juicing for the rest of my life, but not at the pace I am today.

254ea62982c287995e11bc3cfd629407

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on June 21, 2011
at 07:44 PM

Something to think about Jack Lalanne is that he had an older brother who lived to be 97, a year longer than Jack. No particulars on whether or not he was a devotee of Jack's health regimen. Longevity might be more genetic than not, but actually being healthy, fit and active is a choice.

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on June 21, 2011
at 05:23 PM

That's right he was! I loved that dude.

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at 04:41 PM

Jack LaLanne is a big on juicing. Okay, I didn't mean it THAT way... He's always been pretty healthy (n=1, but hey, you gotta give props to the man they named "jumping jacks" after.

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on June 21, 2011
at 04:14 PM

No kiddin'! BTW - I check out your site - way cool lady!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 21, 2011
at 04:08 PM

Yeah - careful proportions or it is not a pretty experience :)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 21, 2011
at 04:08 PM

Mike - I know what Robb says about drinking calories but dang, I'd never drink 15 of one veggie. When I juice it is very much in proportion to one meal but it is just easier for some of us to drink it than chew it.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 21, 2011
at 03:35 PM

I considered it...

254ea62982c287995e11bc3cfd629407

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on June 21, 2011
at 03:28 PM

K, breaking jaw in 3..2..1. That's what you're suggesting, right? :-)

254ea62982c287995e11bc3cfd629407

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at 03:27 PM

Thanks, Mike. While I only use the paleo reasoning as the foundation from which to embark on (i.e. eat what your body was built to eat), I really only adhere to it when the science supports it. I mean, I don't get picky trying to discern if red peppers were in existence in the sub-Saharan region 200,000 years ago. Really just trying to find my "n=1 balance" and whatnot.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 21, 2011
at 03:03 PM

Just from my experience and not coming from science (so not directly answering your question) I have juiced for years. I do it for the same reason you do but also because I lose my appetite in the summer and it helps me get the nutrients and calories I need. I feel absolutely fantastic juicing and experience increased energy. For some reason my face clears up too. So, if it makes you happy...it can't be that bad.

My friend had his mouth wired shut from an accident and had to have everything juiced for 2 months. His skin, energy level and leanness was outrageous. The dude would drink his meat and potatoes so he was getting all of his protein. He came pretty close to paleo during that time. But he said that it was the best he ever felt in his life.

254ea62982c287995e11bc3cfd629407

(822)

on June 21, 2011
at 03:28 PM

K, breaking jaw in 3..2..1. That's what you're suggesting, right? :-)

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on June 21, 2011
at 04:41 PM

Jack LaLanne is a big on juicing. Okay, I didn't mean it THAT way... He's always been pretty healthy (n=1, but hey, you gotta give props to the man they named "jumping jacks" after.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 21, 2011
at 05:23 PM

That's right he was! I loved that dude.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 21, 2011
at 03:35 PM

I considered it...

254ea62982c287995e11bc3cfd629407

(822)

on June 21, 2011
at 07:44 PM

Something to think about Jack Lalanne is that he had an older brother who lived to be 97, a year longer than Jack. No particulars on whether or not he was a devotee of Jack's health regimen. Longevity might be more genetic than not, but actually being healthy, fit and active is a choice.

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7fc82eebafd44badc73c520f44660150

on June 04, 2012
at 02:54 AM

Fruit and veggies are expensive. Why toss all the veggie "meat"? With my vitamix, there is no waste, easy cleanup, and I end up consuming far more nutritious veggies than I would otherwise. Best food related investment I've ever made!!!

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55163ce367cb073e28ce6c8e45ae7adc

on June 04, 2012
at 02:46 AM

I started juicing a few days ago and could not get over how much pulp there was. I took it to the garden at my daughter's school and dumped it into the compost bin. The next day I decided to make a soup out of it. I figured getting the micronutrients from the juice was great, but why not get the fiber too. The soup came out amazing. I used beef broth with the pulp, added fresh veggies and herbs like carrots, greenbeans,onions, oregano, rosemary, and basil. I added ground turkey and a few links of hot italian sausage for protein. Soup was delicious and has lasted me for three days. I feel great and am satisfied with the protein I get at night. I am going to try to find other ways to incorporate the pulp into dinner meals from now on. Perhaps some meatloaf with pulp. Happy Juicing!!

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on September 03, 2012
at 06:54 AM

Hi aegix. You are right about losing some of the fiber. However, for me that is a small price to pay for all the added nutrients I am getting with veggie juice! The main thing is that a juice extractor manages to free all the nutrients that would otherwise remain trapped in the fiber. That is why it is not the same as juice prepared with a blender. In effect you will be getting better value for money, as your body will gain access to a larger percentage of the nutrients in the veggies. As long as you still get fiber in other ways, you will be fine.

There are lots of ways of using the left-over pulp, such as using carrot pulp for the most glorious carrot muffins, you can toss pulp into soups and stews, etc. I also run the pulp itself through the juicer again and get another half a glass of juice or more from it that way.

And, yes, it is true that we don't like everything that is available to eat. I definitely ingest a much more colorful variety of veggies through juicing. Just remember that some veggies, such as beets, are very potent. You should never ever drink a glass of 'neat' beet juice. Always dilute it with other less potent stuff, otherwise you are likely to get a 'cleansing' response you were not quite expecting - as one commenter mentioned! Go slow on other strongly flavored goodies as well, such as some of the greens. Relatively safe 'base' produce to use include cucumber, celery, courgette, tomatoes and carrots (higher in sugar).

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0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on June 21, 2011
at 03:52 PM

I juice from time to time. I don't think it's the end all be all, but drinking vegetable juice is not the end of the world either. I stick to the ones with higher water content and low sugar like cucumbers and celery. Actually, that mix is really nice on ice and hydrates me well post workout. Maybe it's from all of the sodium in the celery. I say go for it.

But, be aware that some juices are pretty powerful, powerfully nauseating anyway. I once drank a huge glass of undiluted beet juice. It was cleansing alright, I puked for the rest of the day!

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on June 21, 2011
at 04:14 PM

No kiddin'! BTW - I check out your site - way cool lady!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 21, 2011
at 04:08 PM

Yeah - careful proportions or it is not a pretty experience :)

F31d10b54b31428e189d9b771bf7b1d1

(1439)

on May 21, 2012
at 04:16 PM

I have been juicing for the past 1.5 years. It may not be the be-all and the end-all, but it comes close. Notice that biochemically it is all very close to paleo. Where it parts from paleo is juicing sweet fruits. During my previous raw juice fast (where I lost 23 pounds), if I were to juice and drink sweet fruits, it made me very hungry in about an hour. But veggies, although not even close to being as tasty, did not make me hungry. Sweet fruits are an invention of the agricultural revolution. Wild fruits would work better. Cucumber, spinach, celery, cabbage juice, not so much.

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510bdda8988ed0d4b0ec0b738b4edb73

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on June 21, 2011
at 02:58 PM

Don't drink your calories!

If we want to use the evolutionary argument (which is not perfect, but I think pretty good), you should probably eat things in the quantities you'd come across them in nature. You'd probably never eat 15 carrots at one sitting, so you probably shouldn't drink 15 carrots either. Just have a small salad with dinner, nothing fancy.

254ea62982c287995e11bc3cfd629407

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on June 21, 2011
at 03:27 PM

Thanks, Mike. While I only use the paleo reasoning as the foundation from which to embark on (i.e. eat what your body was built to eat), I really only adhere to it when the science supports it. I mean, I don't get picky trying to discern if red peppers were in existence in the sub-Saharan region 200,000 years ago. Really just trying to find my "n=1 balance" and whatnot.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 21, 2011
at 04:08 PM

Mike - I know what Robb says about drinking calories but dang, I'd never drink 15 of one veggie. When I juice it is very much in proportion to one meal but it is just easier for some of us to drink it than chew it.

F31d10b54b31428e189d9b771bf7b1d1

(1439)

on May 21, 2012
at 04:08 PM

Currently I am doing heavy duty raw juice fasting (+ 3 eggs & kefir) to lose weight. This would fit under the heading of recovering from the agricultural diet. But we can never fully recover because (1) we are weak-willed, and (2) so many of our paleo foods are strongly impacted by agriculture. Consequently, I will be juicing for the rest of my life, but not at the pace I am today.

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on April 14, 2013
at 08:07 PM

I don't see a problem with juicing at all. The idea that "zOMG it's not paleo!!!1!!!!!1" is ridiculous. So what?

Juicing bypasses insoluble fiber that some people may have trouble digesting, while giving you all the nutrients you need.

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on April 14, 2013
at 07:48 PM

Two or three times I went on a six-week fast of nothing but freshly squeezed fruit and vegetable juice. On the plus side, I lost a lot of weight (30+ lbs.), slept great and enjoyed some real mental clarity and emotional transformation.

On the down side: it's socially limiting, boring as hell and eats up a lot of muscle.

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on April 14, 2013
at 06:44 PM

Hi,

I get a ton of fiber from vegies that I eat but I only drink water, coffee, tea and watered down cranberry juce from Trader Joes and sometimes I need something else....so I juice vegetables. Just one glass and I use carrots, one apple, celery, kale, cabbage, carrot topps etc and it is delicious and I feel so good and I esp like doing it for dinner so that I am not overly full at bedtime. i think juicing is very healthy in moderation. And I use organic vegies. It cost about 2 to 3 dollars a glass. It is really good when I work long hours and need a pick me up. Also to make sure you are getting enough fiber...make sure you have nice big poops....like native hunter gathers.

Cheers K PS I agree with the last blogger...juicing is not all or nothing it is something you can add for nutrients to your already high fiber diet.

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on March 08, 2013
at 06:36 PM

Just a little thought on the why a Paleo person would juice...and this is just my rationale and interest(all anecdotal).

  1. The vegies we eat today have so much fewer nutrients in them than they used to for some nutrients you would have to consume more than what is convenient for people who are never at home and don't have a large vehicle with space for a cooler of veggies.

  2. and some one please correct me if I'm wrong, don't you get more nutrients or absorption of nutrients when you juice? By the way I get how some eco-super stars grow their own veggies or know someone who has this amazing crop of biodiverse/super organic veggie garden but I don't have the money or the time for that.

  3. Why does everyone assume that you wouldn't also be eating raw veggies, or getting fiber at other points in the day. This one bugs me a tad, because it's the same argument by some critics of paleo. No I'm not consuming large amounts of bacon, lard and red meat. sigh, I still believe in moderation. Since my sched is so crazy I carry a bag of chia seeds. Not because i believe in the "next great uber-will make you live to a 100" hype. that all "new" foods say but because in one tblspn I get 22% of my daily amount of fiber.

  4. I find that some paleo foods are more acidic and I think that's fine but I know that since I switched to a mostly alkaline/paleo diet I don't have the mild stomach pain I've had for years anymore.

My point is there are all kinds of reasons that people juice. Although I get a little bit why people would be concerned being that most people don't get enough fiber. Thanks for letting me semi rant :)

E565e11cf32b38ab1f45086c1e0205f7

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on March 08, 2013
at 11:41 PM

I've heard as well that without the fiber, your body can absorb nutrients more efficiently. I've wondered if that's true,

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on June 21, 2011
at 07:49 PM

Isn't that what the machines from the Matrix do when we're no longer useful?

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