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Supplemental Iodine Results?

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Created October 05, 2010 at 6:54 PM

I have several symptoms of hypothyroidism. I'm going to experiment with some Lugol's iodine. I'm curious to see who has used iodine supplementation, and what the results were/are. Thanks!

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on June 13, 2012
at 12:00 PM

I dropped from 205 to 145 before bouncing back up to 155 after Beer Week (brief dietary vacation). Fingertips felt better. Maybe some combination of LC and ODing on vegetables did me in. No family history, so I wouldn't think it's some kind of latent autoimmune thing that was kicked off here. Will be pissed if I did any permanent damage. Thanks for any insight.

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on June 13, 2012
at 11:56 AM

Sorry to piggyback, but can too many raw crucifers fry a thyroid? Should things return to normal if you eliminate crucifers? If the symptoms are diet-related, can they be reversed with diet alone? Shouldn't modest iodine supplementation be sufficient (kelp tablets/seaweed) rather than something more aggressive like Lugol's?

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on June 13, 2012
at 11:53 AM

What are your symptoms? I'm in the same boat, but was eating a ton of cruciferous vegetables, both raw and cooked. Fingertips get numb with too many raw crucifers now, which I backed off of. Use Solgar tablets, and some dried seaweed, still not normal. Started after Paleo, or seems diet related.

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on January 24, 2012
at 07:11 PM

I hope I'm not breaking any rules asking what do you mean by USED to have morphea? Does this mean it went away? I was just diagnosed this last October and adopted the paleo diet in response. If yours went away, how long was it active? Thank you.

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on November 03, 2011
at 07:54 AM

No, I can't get that here.

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on November 03, 2011
at 03:10 AM

Have you tried Nascent Iodine?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 24, 2011
at 07:20 AM

I think I will give up. Half drop for a week and I think I got my thyroid enlarged (by touch). I also gained weight.

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on October 19, 2011
at 06:49 PM

Sounds like reactive hyperthyroidism to me. You have to start much lower and very slowly increase it.

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on October 19, 2011
at 03:05 PM

I like seaweeds for iodine. I use a variety and generally shop at Maine Coast as well. A strip of kelp in bone stocks is my mainstay.

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on June 06, 2011
at 10:01 PM

yes, but hypothyroid symptoms can be as a result of another issue, and not really be hashimotos. if hypothroid is your ONLY problem, then yes it might be hashi and you should get the testing.

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on October 07, 2010
at 05:11 AM

I was thinking slowly there Ben and did not fully process that last statement of yours. If bulk of probs appeared after paleo, chances are it is a deficiency in some nutrient. Fitday.com is your friend. Some people even have probs from lack of salt. Increased levels of D and meat can increase need for magnesium. There are so many interactions, any change in diet can expose deficiences that were in the past only borderline and cause them to become more critical.

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at 05:08 AM

The 90 percent number is all over the place on the net. Here is one: http://hubpages.com/hub/hashimotos-natural-treatment Ben, make sure you check your nutrient intake on fitday.com Many illnesses have similar symptoms to low thyroid. Magnesium deficiency is one of them and they say 70% of the American population is magnesium deficient. Even eating paleo, it's easy to be magnesium deficient. Few foods have high levels of magnesium.

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on October 06, 2010
at 04:47 PM

Yes, I'm curious about the 90% as well. I'm planning to supplement iodine b/c the bulk of the symptoms didn't appear until after I went paleo.

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on October 06, 2010
at 02:15 PM

+1 for Dr. Brownstein's book. Dr. Jorge Flechas is another great source of info on iodine. There are few good podcast interviews linked in the top response here: http://paleohacks.com/questions/5391/cysts-and-over-supplementation

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on October 06, 2010
at 12:23 PM

Where does that 90% come from?

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on October 05, 2010
at 11:58 PM

I listened to a lecture by Dr. Brownstein and he indeed does make very compelling points in favor of iodine.

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at 07:15 PM

Thanks! I don't believe it's Hashimoto's b/c the symptoms really started to show when I went paleo; so I'm thinking I don't get enough iodine.

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on October 06, 2010
at 03:14 AM

Ninety percent of hypothyroid is autoimmune in nature (Hashimoto's). In the case of autoimmune hypothyroid, too much iodine will often make it worse be excelerating the autoimmune attack. If you really believe you have hypothyroid, you need to have a full thyroid panel done so you can find out the proper course of action. Supplementing with iodine could actually make it worse, not better.

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on October 06, 2010
at 04:47 PM

Yes, I'm curious about the 90% as well. I'm planning to supplement iodine b/c the bulk of the symptoms didn't appear until after I went paleo.

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on October 07, 2010
at 05:08 AM

The 90 percent number is all over the place on the net. Here is one: http://hubpages.com/hub/hashimotos-natural-treatment Ben, make sure you check your nutrient intake on fitday.com Many illnesses have similar symptoms to low thyroid. Magnesium deficiency is one of them and they say 70% of the American population is magnesium deficient. Even eating paleo, it's easy to be magnesium deficient. Few foods have high levels of magnesium.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22923)

on October 06, 2010
at 12:23 PM

Where does that 90% come from?

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on October 07, 2010
at 05:11 AM

I was thinking slowly there Ben and did not fully process that last statement of yours. If bulk of probs appeared after paleo, chances are it is a deficiency in some nutrient. Fitday.com is your friend. Some people even have probs from lack of salt. Increased levels of D and meat can increase need for magnesium. There are so many interactions, any change in diet can expose deficiences that were in the past only borderline and cause them to become more critical.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on June 06, 2011
at 10:01 PM

yes, but hypothyroid symptoms can be as a result of another issue, and not really be hashimotos. if hypothroid is your ONLY problem, then yes it might be hashi and you should get the testing.

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on October 05, 2010
at 11:35 PM

There is a very good book with an obnoxiously long title on iodine use called Iodine: Why you need it and why you can't live without it. by Dr. Brownstein. He explains a lot of the history of iodine research, and why people have been mislead in their understanding of daily intake values (why they are so low). highly recommend it.

9bc6f3df8db981f67ea1465411958c8d

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on October 05, 2010
at 11:58 PM

I listened to a lecture by Dr. Brownstein and he indeed does make very compelling points in favor of iodine.

0242b468fe1c97997749db416c92e7ed

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on October 06, 2010
at 02:15 PM

+1 for Dr. Brownstein's book. Dr. Jorge Flechas is another great source of info on iodine. There are few good podcast interviews linked in the top response here: http://paleohacks.com/questions/5391/cysts-and-over-supplementation

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on October 05, 2010
at 11:00 PM

i guess i dont really consider it "supplementation" as such but i do try to consume a bit of dulse sea weed daily. Actually i purposefully skip a day here and there just because. It is a seriously potent source of iodine. Here is the stuff i use: http://www.seaveg.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=5

I dont know that i feel the effects to be honest but inspecting my diet one day i just kind of realized that i didnt think i was getting any good iodine so i started eating this stuff.

Note though that i had no symptoms of hypo or hyperthyroid, hashimoto's etc. Just normal dude and thought i could do with some iodine.

I will say that i have grown to really like the flavor, and it kind of allows me to use less salt in soups etc.

7b11ed525ffa23bc7257684e27488a6a

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on October 19, 2011
at 03:05 PM

I like seaweeds for iodine. I use a variety and generally shop at Maine Coast as well. A strip of kelp in bone stocks is my mainstay.

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on October 05, 2010
at 07:08 PM

I have had good results with regards to energy and mental clarity. Too much and I get too potent a detox reaction but something like 500mcg a day is very beneficial.

Just a warning, if you have Hasimoto's it may not be a good idea to supplement with iodine until that is taken care of. It produces more of the hormone that causes the hashimoto's damage in the first place.

Here is an excellent series on thyroid health in case you are interested http://thehealthyskeptic.org/thyroid

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on October 05, 2010
at 07:15 PM

Thanks! I don't believe it's Hashimoto's b/c the symptoms really started to show when I went paleo; so I'm thinking I don't get enough iodine.

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on October 06, 2010
at 12:27 AM

I eat lots of eggs, cod, salmon, and shellfish. I also avoid too many goitrogenic foods that may limit my ability to absorb my dietary intake without supplementation.

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on October 19, 2011
at 01:59 PM

I started experimenting with iodine as Lugols solution a week ago. I am trying to solve some skin problems, further boost immunity. I noticed that my skin eczema improves tremendously when I am on Adriatic Sea and that all inflammation stops. I thought it might be because of the iodine since D3 megadosing and cremes still didn't do anything. Also, my dermatologist told me that only Adriatic climate will be benefical, and since iodine evaporates I thought its a good idea to try it, given that it is used with little children and babies in higher doses then what I aim to take.

My previous input was from 500mcg to 1000mcg per day via few Solgar kelp tablets per day, multivitamin and carbonated water.

I also take 4 Brazil nuts every day for a year or so for selenium.

Prior to taking Lugols I wasn't sick during last 2-3 years. Its related to changed dietary habits, drinking habits and supplemental usage. I am low carb for about a year.

I started with 1 drop (6.25mg). 2 hours later my salivary gland and neck lymph gland became swollen. Those symptoms are noted among iodine supplementation adverse effects..

Individuals who are sensitive to iodine may react to excessive exposure with fever, salivary gland enlargement, iododerma, visual problems, and/or other symptoms. An evaluation of the oral doses at which adverse effects of iodine were reported (41) indicates that dose is not specifically related to response except that acute response is usually the result of larger doses

In the morning I got full flue symptoms, temperature of 37.5 and very fatigue muscles. I solved it by drinking between 60 - 100 g of Vitamin C (2-4 g every 30 mins to hour) with 2x50mg Zinc, zero carb diet. Tomorrow I was fine, the glands took another 2 days to recover. I also got gingivitis which resolved after 7 days fully [I had this since 16 yo, always when my immunity drops, but didn't have it for 3 years, almost forgot about it].

When it resolved, I started it again, this time 0.5 drops (~3mg). After 3 days, I noticed swollen lymph gland in groin region. I also noticed anorexic response - the hunger is substantially reduced over the day. I take 4x3g Vitamin C again but this is just a bit higher then what I usually take (7-9g).

This suggests me that immune system started to be overactive and possibilities are:

  • I have chronic inflammation and pathogens are dying off releasing endotoxins. This is not hard to imagine as I had local scleroderma before [i.e. morphea - autoimmune skin disease] and some weird allergy to showering water sine 16 yo
  • Serbia was bombarded with radioactive junk 10 years before. Possible bromide detoxification. Its also possible that Kelp was contaminated although Solgar is highly respectable company .
  • Reactive hyperthyroidism due to sudden increase

According to Paul Jaminet the dose should be doubled each month so thats what I will do:

“The best way, which we recommend in our book, is to supplement with iodine and gradually build up the dose over a four to six month period. Start below 1 mg/day, take that for a month, then double the dose. After a month, double the dose again. Continue doubling until you reach your desired maintenance dose; we recommend at least 3 mg/day (a quarter Iodoral tablet), with 12.5 mg/day a reasonable dose. Some people taking as much as 50 mg/day.... Finally, iodine intake can [temporary] amplify immune activity against pathogens, since the myeloperoxidase pathway is iodine-dependent.

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on October 19, 2011
at 06:49 PM

Sounds like reactive hyperthyroidism to me. You have to start much lower and very slowly increase it.

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on October 24, 2011
at 07:20 AM

I think I will give up. Half drop for a week and I think I got my thyroid enlarged (by touch). I also gained weight.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on November 03, 2011
at 07:54 AM

No, I can't get that here.

B9cc28905ec54389c47cde031d709703

on November 03, 2011
at 03:10 AM

Have you tried Nascent Iodine?

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on January 24, 2012
at 07:11 PM

I hope I'm not breaking any rules asking what do you mean by USED to have morphea? Does this mean it went away? I was just diagnosed this last October and adopted the paleo diet in response. If yours went away, how long was it active? Thank you.

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