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hack my extremely sore breasts :(

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Created October 18, 2011 at 2:51 AM

I've been grain and nearly totally sugar free for 5 months, and have added red meat back to my diet after nearly 20 yrs. I have seen tons of health benefits - healthier skin, digestion, mood, weight and inches lost, etc., but am confused about my increasingly sore and fibrocystic breasts.

I've searched this and some other sites; read about iodine and how it can help reduce cyst-like activity, as a result of less iodine after a period of paleo nutrition. I've started w/about 140 mg of Potassium Iodide per day for the last 4-5 days, and am only becoming more uncomfortable, likely due to pms kicking into high gear. I also discovered and am being seen by my dr for a lump in my left breast (likely just a cyst, to be biopsied next week).

Have any of you paleo women seen an increase in breast tenderness or fibrocystic breast tissue? Any other remedies in addition to iodine? Thanks in advance!

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on October 20, 2011
at 05:58 AM

I've definitely been low on selenium before. I had thyroid inflammation which went away straight away on selenium. I still take it to this day but am careful not to overdo it.

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on October 20, 2011
at 05:56 AM

Good luck with the doctor hunt too, you can ask the moderators on forum.realthyroidhelp.com for recommendations. If your tests are in range but low, that indicates possible subclinical hypothyroidism. All the best!

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on October 20, 2011
at 05:55 AM

the Lugols reaction definitely sounds as though it was too strong to start off with - probably causing some die-off.

2b2c2e4aa87e9aa4c99cae48e980f70d

(1059)

on October 19, 2011
at 02:20 PM

I was researching iodine supplementation earlier in the week and I came across a dose of 12.5 mg as recommended in several places. Lugols comes in different strengths so the drops required aries.

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on October 18, 2011
at 06:47 PM

thanks! it's Source Naturals Potassium Iodide. I tried Lugols years ago and it always made me feel like I had to throw up. The KI I have does say 32.5 mg per tablet. I appreciate your feedback and will definitely keep in mind looking for a good hormonal dr to check out my thryroid/estrogen levels. I'll soon have better insurance and may have more options for providers. :) I have had standard thyroid tests over the years and they're always in the normal range, although near low.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on October 18, 2011
at 02:59 PM

I would also suggest you pre load with 200 mcgs of Sel before you apply the Lugol's Women with this type of problem also are very deficient in Selenium as well.

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on October 18, 2011
at 07:23 AM

Do you mean 140 micrograms (mcg) of potassium iodide? It is an common typo to make.

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on October 18, 2011
at 06:51 AM

also this thread exists which may be useful: http://paleohacks.com/questions/43052/wondering-about-breast-tenderness#axzz1b6TpVyuN

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on October 18, 2011
at 04:15 AM

and....this is a great resource website: http://www.womentowomen.com/

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on October 18, 2011
at 04:11 AM

btw, the lump is probably harmless but great that you're getting it checked. I had lumps in the past but it was all hormonal and pretty harmless.

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957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on October 18, 2011
at 04:10 AM

Hi there

How many drops is that of the iodine? Is it Lugol's? It may be too much to start off with. Sometimes it's better to start off slow so that your body gets used to it. If I take any more than 3 drops/day of my mixture, I get nausea - others have different reactions.

I would also suggest finding a good hormonal doc to assess your progesterone, estrogen and other hormonal levels. It could be that you are estrogen dominant. Do you get bad cramping as well, heavy flow, PMT teariness or irritability?

Mine seem to be better with progesterone supplementation and Paleo, but it seems to change month to month which makes it difficult to pinpoint a good solution.

Sounds like this is something you might need professional help with - the solution could be as simple as bioidentical progesterone cream or sublingual troches.

good luck!

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on October 18, 2011
at 06:51 AM

also this thread exists which may be useful: http://paleohacks.com/questions/43052/wondering-about-breast-tenderness#axzz1b6TpVyuN

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on October 18, 2011
at 04:15 AM

and....this is a great resource website: http://www.womentowomen.com/

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on October 18, 2011
at 04:11 AM

btw, the lump is probably harmless but great that you're getting it checked. I had lumps in the past but it was all hormonal and pretty harmless.

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on October 20, 2011
at 05:56 AM

Good luck with the doctor hunt too, you can ask the moderators on forum.realthyroidhelp.com for recommendations. If your tests are in range but low, that indicates possible subclinical hypothyroidism. All the best!

3fa1da906c426b335569644f8a908024

on October 18, 2011
at 06:47 PM

thanks! it's Source Naturals Potassium Iodide. I tried Lugols years ago and it always made me feel like I had to throw up. The KI I have does say 32.5 mg per tablet. I appreciate your feedback and will definitely keep in mind looking for a good hormonal dr to check out my thryroid/estrogen levels. I'll soon have better insurance and may have more options for providers. :) I have had standard thyroid tests over the years and they're always in the normal range, although near low.

2b2c2e4aa87e9aa4c99cae48e980f70d

(1059)

on October 19, 2011
at 02:20 PM

I was researching iodine supplementation earlier in the week and I came across a dose of 12.5 mg as recommended in several places. Lugols comes in different strengths so the drops required aries.

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on October 20, 2011
at 05:55 AM

the Lugols reaction definitely sounds as though it was too strong to start off with - probably causing some die-off.

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2b2c2e4aa87e9aa4c99cae48e980f70d

(1059)

on October 18, 2011
at 11:23 AM

Are you using the right kind of iodine? This is from Dr K's blog:

"One clinical finding I always ask about is the presence of fibrocystic breast disease. When it is present I immediately think the woman is likely suffering from an undiagnosed iodine deficiency. I distinctly remember in medical school seeing a woman???s fibrocystic disease cured in less than an hour by an ancient physician who taught us how to examine a women???s breasts. She had volunteered to be a guinea pig for us during our medical education, and on this day we could not examine her without making her scream and cry because her breasts were so tender to palpation. Our MD proctor was about 80 years old and he too was a volunteer helping us learn our craft. He stopped me from examining her breasts and asked her a few questions and then he asked us to leave the room. He applied Lugol???s solution to her vulva and her nipples and we were able to examine her without any pain a half hour later. It made a huge impression on me. He asked her if she was on any thyroid meds and if she had bad energy or weight gain. A lack of iodine was the source of her painful breasts. Her labs did not reveal any major issues when we saw her. I never forgot this lesson on the thyroid"

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on October 18, 2011
at 04:51 AM

Keep us posted. I'm eating mostly paleo and want to see what happens with my labs at the end of the year.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on October 18, 2011
at 02:57 PM

In my blog on the top ten paleo supplements I talk specifically about this issue based upon an incident that occurred when I was learning to do a breast exam. I think you might find it very helpful. Is is in section number 7.

http://jackkruse.com/what-are-the-top-ten-paleo-supplements/

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on October 18, 2011
at 02:59 PM

I would also suggest you pre load with 200 mcgs of Sel before you apply the Lugol's Women with this type of problem also are very deficient in Selenium as well.

957a563c7e4a165663fd3c71207c39da

on October 20, 2011
at 05:58 AM

I've definitely been low on selenium before. I had thyroid inflammation which went away straight away on selenium. I still take it to this day but am careful not to overdo it.

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on October 18, 2011
at 02:10 PM

Estrogen dominance can definitely be an issue for some. My friend used topical Progesterone cream (Pro-Gest) twice daily per package directions and her fibrocystic breast pain disappeared.

Nutritionally, Vitamin D deficiency is likely implicated, since Vitamin D is a hormone pre-cursor. Get your level checked and aim for 50-80 ng/ml.

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on October 18, 2011
at 01:56 PM

Start low when supplementing iodine, like 500mcg/ day, then you can double up every month or so until you reach the iodine level desired. If symptoms appear, go back to a lower dose for a while. Make sure you get sufficient selenium which protects against iodine toxicity (200 mcg/ day is a good level to aim for). Magnesium could also be helpful against general pms symptoms. Aim for 200 mg magnesium per day.

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