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Pseudo intermittant fasting. Every day, every other day, every third day?

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Created June 06, 2012 at 6:42 PM

I'm currently trying 18 hour fasts, but with bulletproof coffee (the recipe not the ultra-pricey coffee brand) for breakfast. I'm a 55 year old woman with weight/pre-diabetes issues and rapidly approaching menopause. Looking for advice from experienced IFers.

Added: Some more info, since people are making assumptions that don't seem to fit my situation. My diet and sleep are on target. I am especially interested in IF for glucose control benefits and autophagy, and mimicking the benefits of CR without the pain, perhaps even more so than for weight loss. I've been dropping weight slowly for quite a while. I eat low carb, but not VLC.

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on June 07, 2012
at 10:52 PM

Thanks for the response, any research on fasting with just butter and/or mct oil?

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on June 07, 2012
at 02:36 PM

It depends on why you are fasting. If fat loss is your goal, the added calories "could" become a problem. If it is the health benefits you are after then no, the bulletproof coffee is of no consequence.

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on June 07, 2012
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Is bulletproof coffee just coffee with coconut oil?

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at 10:12 PM

Amanda, thanks so much for the link - it resolved some niggles I've been having about my current situation. I've been fasting most days until about 2pm to lose weight, but my sleep is suffering and I'm back to craving sugar and caffeine. AND I haven't lost weight. Stef's post rings true for me.

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Thank you for the great link. I owe you a +1 in a couple hours also. Having something to start from that is geared towards women is very helpful. There is a lot in that article. It looks like there may be some differences in how the effects of IF would be for reproductive age women versus older women. The article certainly presents some issues to consider and further research.

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My sleep and diet are on target. I walk and lift moderate weights.

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Thank you for the great links. I owe you a +1 as soon as my daily point limit revives.

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There is some evidence that women do not benefit from intermittent fasting. Check out the post here http://www.paleoforwomen.com/shattering-the-myth-of-fasting-for-women-a-review-of-female-specific-responses-to-fasting-in-the-literature/

Specific to your situation, women may not get the glucose tolerance that men do.

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on June 06, 2012
at 10:12 PM

Amanda, thanks so much for the link - it resolved some niggles I've been having about my current situation. I've been fasting most days until about 2pm to lose weight, but my sleep is suffering and I'm back to craving sugar and caffeine. AND I haven't lost weight. Stef's post rings true for me.

5ccb98f6ae42ce87e206cf3f6a86039f

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on June 06, 2012
at 09:08 PM

Thank you for the great link. I owe you a +1 in a couple hours also. Having something to start from that is geared towards women is very helpful. There is a lot in that article. It looks like there may be some differences in how the effects of IF would be for reproductive age women versus older women. The article certainly presents some issues to consider and further research.

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on June 06, 2012
at 08:08 PM

I'm hearing more and more that regular eating and sleeping patterns are crucial to optimal health in terms of regulating the circadian rhythm, hormones, etc.

However, many paleo people, including myself, practice intermittent fasting. I know that this can reflect the unexpected food supply of prehistoric times, but I'm wondering if "keeping our bodies guessing" in this way screws up some internal rhythms that can ultimately be detrimental to our health.

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This comes up a lot - IF is only for use once you have everything else dialed in. It's a microoptimization on once you get the big things adjusted. Get your nutrition and sleep all figured out. After nutrition and sleep are good, you'll probably start to feel like you want to be active, so start walking slowly and lifting heavy weights. After you've been doing that for a while and have your routine figured out to what makes you feel best, then start experimenting with IF.

IF sounds sexy - all I need to do is compress my eating window and magic happens - but that's not the case. It's a good thing, but it only has small benefits and should only be done once you've figured everything else out.

Plus, I'm against what I'll call scheduled fasting, where you plan your fasts. My version of IF, is truly intermittent. If I get busy at work or something and miss lunch or dinner, then I call that my fast.

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at 07:54 PM

My sleep and diet are on target. I walk and lift moderate weights.

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on June 06, 2012
at 07:01 PM

Excuse my laziness - here's an earlier short post of mine (go to bottom)

IMHO, too much "mystique" is attached to it. I do NOT believe you need to have everything else dialled in if you're generally in reasonable health, and if you prepare a little.

I found it to be an excellent way to shed a few kg - almost an exercise "cheat" - but sounds like you're already on the path. A good, no BS introduction is "Eat Stop Eat", or google "The IF Life" - lots of experience there + testimonials. I've been thriving on it for 3 years.

http://paleohacks.com/questions/110580/should-i-if-or-follow-the-leptin-reset-plan-if-i-want-to-lose-weight-and-fat/110594#110594

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on June 06, 2012
at 07:31 PM

Thank you for the great links. I owe you a +1 as soon as my daily point limit revives.

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on June 07, 2012
at 02:19 AM

I think the only way to find out is try it out, all the variations, and see what works for you.

I do small 18/6 fasts regularly, but mainly just because that is what feels right, and I only do it when I'm feeling it. If I am hungry, I eat.

I tried a forty hour fast a few weeks ago and felt awful, so it's not for me. I read a couple of articles that said to eat 30 grams of protein within 30 minutes of waking, but I just don't want to eat that soon, so why force myself.

If you try the fasts, and they don't help with your health, or they don't feel good, or you aren't losing weight, then that will be the deciding factor. There is so much advice, so many variations, so many studies for and against, and every one of us has to self experiment and see what works and what doesn't.

I just tried bulletproof coffee today and thought it was brilliant. And it did make me not hungry for hours. Tomorrow, when I have it in the morning, if it makes me not hungry for hours, I'll just go with it. If I do get hungry later, I'll try some fruit or a salad.

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on June 06, 2012
at 09:09 PM

I to intermittent fast via upgraded bulletproof (I buy the pricey beans). I use about 200 calories of kerry gold butter and 100 calories worth of mct oil. I wonder if the health effects are negated, with this type of fasting? I don't check, but assume I am in ketosis most of the day, until I come home and gorge in a 4 hour eating window.

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on June 07, 2012
at 02:36 PM

It depends on why you are fasting. If fat loss is your goal, the added calories "could" become a problem. If it is the health benefits you are after then no, the bulletproof coffee is of no consequence.

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on June 07, 2012
at 10:52 PM

Thanks for the response, any research on fasting with just butter and/or mct oil?

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