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Insulin and face flushing

Answered on March 03, 2016
Created December 20, 2011 at 12:22 AM

For most of my life ive suffered from having my nose and cheeks flush and get hot at random times in the day regardless of any social anxiety that it is usually attributed to. I had resigned to the fact this was just a terrible trait I had inherited but after starting to eat paleo and using Intermittent Fasting the condition and my skin cleared and picked up a healthy glow. Recently I had abandoned paleo eating to gain some cheap muscle mass at the expense of my insides(indigestion,nausea) and my skin got horribly oily and acne resurfaced after adding milk and wheat back. Not only this but after my carb-laden PWO meal my face gets Tomato red and I feel very uncomfortable. I've made the decision to return to paleo eating and found that my face doesn't get red while fasting and avoiding starchy carbs. Getting to the point, was an insulin spike the reason behind my flushing or something else related to poor diet?

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on February 11, 2012
at 07:50 AM

I found out it always happened to me when I eat too fast or when I eat too much protein. I have no idea what the cause is. It might be insulin for me, since I always get moody when I have it.

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on February 11, 2012
at 05:46 AM

Korion, when the flushing started, I was taking zinc and fish oil. Once I got my diet together, I dropped the fish oil, and soon dropped the zinc. I then experimented with vit C, Mg, FCLO, D3...but nothing was truly correlating with the flushing, as it started before this. I had a really long streak of being asymptomatic, like 3 weeks, and I was taking FCLO, selenium, zinc, and a probiotic. Months of food/supplement journals and, at times, a really simplified diet and I haven't weeded out a culprit.

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on February 04, 2012
at 08:10 AM

Maybe it's a supplement we're taking. What supplements do you take, StreakOfLean?

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on February 03, 2012
at 09:21 PM

I have something very similar, Korion, but only noticeably since eating paleo. It was so frustrating because I could never pin down a smoking gun like so many other people have ("I can't handle avocados" etc..). I'll look flushed, along with kind of swollen hands and general puffyness in the face. Lower protein helps, but it still hit me out of nowhere sometimes. I'm eating a low-histamine and amine diet to see if it helps, but I just got really flushed this morning!

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on January 25, 2012
at 10:57 AM

Do you tolerate kefir, Isa?

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on January 25, 2012
at 10:29 AM

Bananas are very high in biogene amines.

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on January 20, 2012
at 12:10 AM

Have you ever been diagnosed with rosacea? Sounds like you are describing classic symptoms. Paleo/primal eating seems to diminish rosacea. There is a leaky gut connection. The redness and breaking out is the body's way of saying I cannot process the food you are feeding me-not insulin spikes. You may have low level intolerances to starchy carbs (like me--I cannot even do sweet potatoes, rice, legumes,etc). Just my personal opinion.

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on December 20, 2011
at 08:50 PM

Do you have dandruff on your scalp or in your ears? Serious question.

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on December 20, 2011
at 08:50 PM

def check into this

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on December 20, 2011
at 11:22 AM

Interesting question, I hadn't even thought about this even though I used to get much worse face flushing pre-paleo. I'll have to keep an eye on whether it increases in accordance to my discipline (or lack thereof) with what I eat.

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on December 20, 2011
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I would suspect rosacea. Dr. Ayers has some ideas about how it is caused by diet. See: http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/search/label/rosacea

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on December 20, 2011
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def check into this

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on December 20, 2011
at 11:07 AM

James, all of your writing reminds me of my own situation: I've to handle histamine intolerance and it works very good with the paleo diet. You'll find lots of information in WWW if you google for histamine intolerance or sensitivity. "Histamines are mainly connected with allergic responses, but also with digestive disorders, joint pain, inflammation, fatigue and depression/anxieties (see also: histaminergic neurones)

There is increasing evidence that Enteral Histaminosis or Histamine Intolerance (HIT) is a major cause of food hypersensitivity/food intolerance, rashes/flushing/other skin irritation and especially Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS)/IBS related symptoms." http://www.histrelief.com/

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on December 20, 2011
at 12:50 AM

Insulin spikes are not one of the aprox 100 reasons why your face would flush. Small Intestine Cancer and Lupus are two things that are obviously extremely serious that can cause face flushing, however if this has happened for more than a decade its most likely not your small intestine. Read up on Lupus and see if you have any other symptoms.

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on January 25, 2012
at 09:52 AM

I agree with Isa Palstek, though I'm not sure what the relation with insulin is. When I eat bananas or dried fruits or lots of carbs (like brown rice + sweet potatoes with no fat or protein) I get terrible flushes. Excess protein in a meal causes the same issue (I can't eat a lean steak or a big amount of ground beef with gelatin). I haven't had a flush for two weeks since I stopped eating sweet potatoes or excess protein (I keep protein as low as possible but above 60g daily).

Taking apple cider vinegar solves the issue within half an hour.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on January 25, 2012
at 10:57 AM

Do you tolerate kefir, Isa?

50e94d7b6b01e6cb87889c6541adc90c

(813)

on January 25, 2012
at 10:29 AM

Bananas are very high in biogene amines.

59d367d77f4082717bade07508624db8

(1198)

on February 03, 2012
at 09:21 PM

I have something very similar, Korion, but only noticeably since eating paleo. It was so frustrating because I could never pin down a smoking gun like so many other people have ("I can't handle avocados" etc..). I'll look flushed, along with kind of swollen hands and general puffyness in the face. Lower protein helps, but it still hit me out of nowhere sometimes. I'm eating a low-histamine and amine diet to see if it helps, but I just got really flushed this morning!

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 04, 2012
at 08:10 AM

Maybe it's a supplement we're taking. What supplements do you take, StreakOfLean?

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 11, 2012
at 07:50 AM

I found out it always happened to me when I eat too fast or when I eat too much protein. I have no idea what the cause is. It might be insulin for me, since I always get moody when I have it.

59d367d77f4082717bade07508624db8

(1198)

on February 11, 2012
at 05:46 AM

Korion, when the flushing started, I was taking zinc and fish oil. Once I got my diet together, I dropped the fish oil, and soon dropped the zinc. I then experimented with vit C, Mg, FCLO, D3...but nothing was truly correlating with the flushing, as it started before this. I had a really long streak of being asymptomatic, like 3 weeks, and I was taking FCLO, selenium, zinc, and a probiotic. Months of food/supplement journals and, at times, a really simplified diet and I haven't weeded out a culprit.

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on March 03, 2016
at 03:34 PM

i have found that a half teaspoon of baking soda taken with water resolves the redness within an hour.

careful....baking soda is sodium bicarbonate (salt) so not great if you have high blood pressure.

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