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how do you decide when to fast?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 11, 2011 at 4:49 AM

Do you skip a meal a week, as Art De Vany suggests? He suggests doing it at random. Do you roll a dice or two?

D2e6eb2ab91f5e11589cf34b44b8e4cd

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on July 10, 2011
at 03:35 AM

I'll skip breakfast every now and then if it is a day I'm not working out.....

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on May 11, 2011
at 08:58 PM

I do it more frequently now......

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on May 11, 2011
at 05:51 PM

DItto, I don't really schedule it, but try to 'extend' it to 20-24 hrs if I end up naturally skipping a meal a couple times a week. I find skipping lunch hard though, probably mostly because I like having a break in the day. I fast more easily when I'm really busy -- like this week, evening dress rehearsals (which are better not on a full stomach anyway).

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on May 11, 2011
at 03:26 PM

no black coffee and tea are fine. they have no calories.

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on May 11, 2011
at 02:51 PM

No. Fasting is consuming nothing but perhaps water.

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on May 11, 2011
at 01:06 PM

Dexter and semirade: I am also a senior paleo..64 yr. old female. Loving eating this way...losing weight without cravings and enjoying beef and fat again... we lived all those years with the saturated fat scare...I went through Pritikin and Ornish..my husband called it prisoner of war diet!!

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on May 11, 2011
at 12:55 PM

Hey Dexter - where have you been - I'd like to hear a bit about your story - as a 64 yr old - I've been trying to find others in their "September years" who are doing paleo - it's motivating, and helps to know that you can start out later, and don't have to be a young buck!

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on May 11, 2011
at 12:30 PM

I like to fast after some non-Paleo food as well, not as punishment either, but to give my pancreas a rest before starting up again. At this point, if I indulge, my guts feel crappy and worn out afterward so I don't want to eat much anyway for a while.

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on May 11, 2011
at 12:23 PM

I am healthier at (almost) 40 than I was at 30! It's awesome!

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at 08:18 AM

Black coffee is fine (along with tea and other non-caloric beverages). Adding milk or cream would probably be anti-productive.

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on May 11, 2011
at 05:22 AM

I also workout better fasted

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7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

on May 11, 2011
at 12:26 PM

I randomly IF when work gets too busy and I can't get to my food or my plans change and what I thawed for dinner isn't going to work or whenever life throws me little inconsistencies that make fasting happen.

I rarely plan a faster more than the day before. I will use a fast to "reset" after some non-Paleo food, but I am careful to make sure that I am not using it as PUNISHMENT for cheating. (Old binge/restrict habits die hard!)

03f5a69fde4012b827ebdb6d93b71e7a

(2007)

on May 11, 2011
at 05:51 PM

DItto, I don't really schedule it, but try to 'extend' it to 20-24 hrs if I end up naturally skipping a meal a couple times a week. I find skipping lunch hard though, probably mostly because I like having a break in the day. I fast more easily when I'm really busy -- like this week, evening dress rehearsals (which are better not on a full stomach anyway).

B7fec4bf394de8dfa6403067aea94e1b

(1546)

on May 11, 2011
at 12:30 PM

I like to fast after some non-Paleo food as well, not as punishment either, but to give my pancreas a rest before starting up again. At this point, if I indulge, my guts feel crappy and worn out afterward so I don't want to eat much anyway for a while.

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on May 11, 2011
at 05:10 AM

I intermittant fast every Tuesday and Friday from the previous night to the following morning. Last meal is Monday night and next meal is Wed morning. It has gotten so I rarely think about eating. And these are the days that I play softball and do my tabata wind sprints. I find that I do much better exercising in a fasted state.

At age 68, I am in better health than I ever was eating SAD.

50637dfd7dc7a7e811d82283f4f5fd10

(5838)

on May 11, 2011
at 05:22 AM

I also workout better fasted

7e746be2f0e550a8cd7df881322ae705

(18701)

on May 11, 2011
at 12:23 PM

I am healthier at (almost) 40 than I was at 30! It's awesome!

D8195c5ae6c967027a3133d74969d0e1

(543)

on May 11, 2011
at 12:55 PM

Hey Dexter - where have you been - I'd like to hear a bit about your story - as a 64 yr old - I've been trying to find others in their "September years" who are doing paleo - it's motivating, and helps to know that you can start out later, and don't have to be a young buck!

D5096ff5baffc0ba5d20b21346414a7a

(1112)

on May 11, 2011
at 01:06 PM

Dexter and semirade: I am also a senior paleo..64 yr. old female. Loving eating this way...losing weight without cravings and enjoying beef and fat again... we lived all those years with the saturated fat scare...I went through Pritikin and Ornish..my husband called it prisoner of war diet!!

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on May 11, 2011
at 05:57 AM

I do it pretty regular but I don't plan what day. If you just plan when to fast you make it routine and if there is something a paleo lifestyle teaches us is that routine is wrong. We are not designed to eat every 3 hours and we are not designed to fast every wednesday. Nor are we designed to binge eat every friday.

Yesterday I ate half a litre ice cream because I felt like it. The day before I fasted from lunch to lunch because I felt like it. If I am travelling I usually fast because it's hard to find good food when travelling so I usually just drink water.

If you are fasting I recommend trying at least 24 hours and at most 36 hours. Any more than that is not beneficial to your body. I find that the easiest way of fasting for me is eating a steady dinner and then fast until dinner the day after. If you really want to give yourself a boost then you go to the gym before dinner and lift HEAVY!

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9e1dedf12f6ee75b7fe460960971fd21

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on May 11, 2011
at 03:31 PM

I am not concerned with being chaotic, just for the sake of being chaotic. I fast every Wednesday because it fits best into my workout schedule. (I like to be in a fed state the day following a workout, given my goal of slowly increasing lean mass)

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6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 11, 2011
at 04:51 AM

Great question. I'm looking to do some IF at some point too, so I would love to hear the answer to this. I want a non-arbitrary system for IF. Perhaps random shit like "once per week" are better than nothing, but my personality doesn't like crapshoot arbitrarity.

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on May 11, 2011
at 07:08 PM

I decide to fast every time I decide to go to sleep. Outside of that, it seems like a good way to increase muscle catabolism. There might be a way in which doing so accelerates the normalization of metabolic derangements, but I kind of think even then it's not really necessary.

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on May 11, 2011
at 06:43 PM

I like to do a moderate fasting about 4-5 days during the week, eating my large meal at lunch and then fasting until breakfast the next day. I started this about a month+ ago and it has helped me loose those last few lbs, plus I am always in a state of ketosis now and loosing inches. (I waited until month 4 to start because i didn't feel ready for it until then)

I probably couldn't go longer than 18 hours but I'm comfortable with this for now, perhaps working up to longer fasts in the near future; I just do things when they feel right.

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B9d7395bdf305a2ddb51cc05a49577d8

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on May 11, 2011
at 06:11 PM

Basically it's just different strokes for different folks. Some people do better with IF'ng on a routine basis, others do best when it's more random. I find it's easiest to do when following a good paleo diet (i.e. low carb, certainly no junk), very difficult to do if I've been eating too many carbs. Sometimes my schedule just works better if I IF when the opportunity simply presents itself - too busy, can't get the right food for a particular meal, not hungry, etc....

Some people find it very beneficial to workout during an IF as well as deliberately delaying eating for 1 to 2 hours after exercise. This topic is discussed in detail on Art DeVany's website.

The main thing is that I've personally found IF'ng to be very liberating. It totally breaks the link between meals and the clock, between 'must eat' just because it's lunch time and obvioiusly I must be hungry! Feels great not to be tied to food so much any more.

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on May 11, 2011
at 04:57 PM

I usually fast from dinner the night before, til just before I work out on Tuesday night, Thursday night and Saturday night. I always lift heavier if I don't have food in my stomach. I break my fast with a small amount of protein like sardines or canned salmon, and a little bit of carbs from blueberries or some coconut water an hour or two before I go into the gym at 8. Afterwards I eat a huge meal.

Sometimes if I feel like it I won't do this. Sometimes on my off days I wait til dinner to eat. It's a very flexible schedule for me. I almost never have breakfast unless I'm really hungry, and tend to start my day off with a cup or two of black tea, unsweetened.

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on May 11, 2011
at 04:29 PM

I eat once a day, except on weekends when I eat lunch and dinner.

it's easy, and it works well for me.

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D8195c5ae6c967027a3133d74969d0e1

on May 11, 2011
at 01:04 PM

this is a great question - I've been too random/rare in the fasting dept. - not that I'm hungry (I'm hardly ever hungry on paleo) - I need to study up on IF to find its importance - it's one area that I sort of skipped over - not really getting the relevance! I've only done it twice in my 90 days, because it was suggested, but not with the determination that I do with the eating.

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on May 11, 2011
at 11:02 AM

I'm new to both paleo and IF, being only around 6 weeks into the process. I initially started IF on a schedule (alternate day fasting, three times a week), which has been quite effective (and was relatively easy to follow, as it wasn't too much of a leap from my usual single meal a day routine before starting paleo).

Now that I'm getting into the swing of things, I'm trying to be more flexible in my approach - being willing to end my fast early if I'm feeling more than just temporarily hungry, or extending a 20/4 fast if I'm not hungry around my usual meal time. The challenge I'm working on now is to try be aware of what my body's telling me, and to try avoid my old habits of eating until I can't eat any more (as I've always found it hard to notice if I'm full, short of being so overfull that I literally can't fit any more into my stomach). But I digress.

I'll probably give this approach a try for a week or so, and see where I go from there. I'm mostly eating something like 20/4 on my partial-fast days so I'll still be fasting daily, it's just a question of how many alternate-day fasts I end up slotting in.

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on May 11, 2011
at 06:07 AM

Can you have coffee while fasting?

9e1dedf12f6ee75b7fe460960971fd21

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on May 11, 2011
at 03:26 PM

no black coffee and tea are fine. they have no calories.

6f2c00fcbf48c69f0ea212239b3e1178

on May 11, 2011
at 02:51 PM

No. Fasting is consuming nothing but perhaps water.

07842fbab8730403ef284e655083fe0e

(218)

on May 11, 2011
at 08:18 AM

Black coffee is fine (along with tea and other non-caloric beverages). Adding milk or cream would probably be anti-productive.

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