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[HACK] my bloodwork / Overtrained, mono, or (walking) pneumonia?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 12, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Well this could potentially be a long post, but Im sick and tired of being sick and tired!

Around November 16th I came down with a serious chest illness that kept me bed ridden for 2 to 3 days. I never went to the hospital because I was in a foreign country that has sub-par government health care and the local population tends to be racist towards non native language speakers.

After a few days I felt better and went on a trip that involved 5 days of travel, so a lot of time spent on a crowded bus with other exchange students and lots of walking. Plus sleeping in hostels. I felt fairly fine these few days except for a light cough but ultimately I had energy and willpower to keep going.

By the end of the trip however, I was sick again with something different. A different kind of cough was setting in. Upon returning home, my energy slowly declined each day in the gym and in general until I had no energy at all and ended up being couched for 2-3 days along with severe diarrhea.

I had plans to travel again so I just rested and took time off. The night before the trip I had one last severe bout of diarrhea but I felt fine after it had all "cleared" and went into the first day of the trip to Madrid with a great amount of energy and fervor. However, the second day I had an anxiety attack because I was incredibly weak and lethargic as well as having trouble breathing.

I ended up sleeping the entire day at the hostel. The next day I felt a little better and each day got progressively better. But I never felt the same, and some days ended up being worse than others with anxiety attacks extreme lethargy, fatigue. I would sleep for 12 to 14 hours and awake with less energy.

Even now this is still the case. I even fought depression because well after so long of it, you start to think "will I ever be normal again?"

I finally returned home and saw my GP ASAP. Blood work was normal, he tested for everything b-12, thyroid, we even did a endoscopy to check for celiac's and internal bleeding.

Everything is normal. Normal thyroid, normal cortisol, great levels of everything!

My creatinine levels are a little high but I did supplement with 5-10g creatine daily.

The endocrinologist said it was the creatine causing my symptoms since everything else was normal. But, I've been off of it for over 3 weeks now and still having symptoms.

Plus, creatine is safe, and Im not taking insane amounts like the studies with adverse effects do.

As for the overtraining, I was training (heavy weights, 1 body part a day 5 days a week) and lots of walking as well as Intermittent fasting with a paleo style diet.

Could I have just been consuming so few calories opposed to my energy expenditure that my body just gave up? Coupled with being incredibly sick... Could this have caused these symptoms?

Even now that I am home and have been on little to no activity for 3 weeks now and eating a lot more than normal with no weight gain... Im feeling much better, but each day I still have trouble breathing becoming winded after walking and extreme lethargy. Its hard just to find the energy to get up and go.

I find that if I go work out I feel amazing, normal, during and after. However, the next day I feel hungover and the lethargy and breathing troubles are a little more severe. Not to mention Im doing relatively light workouts but it feels like I did some HIIT and maxed out between a two a day football practice. My whole body is weak and sore even though I just did some light leg training!?

Since it has been so long since there isn't really a way to know exactly what I had, but I'm hoping through the experiences of this community we can figure it out. I miss the outdoors. I miss the gym. I miss the hunt, I miss my life!

Currently I wake up feeling fine, enough energy for a 20-30 minute walk which I do. But after I feel dead, like you didnt sleep more than 2 hours the night before and need a nap, or the '2-o clock' feeling in the 5 hour energy commercials except it onsets 45 minutes to an hour after I wake up and lasts until around 6-8 pm at night. I usually have a good burst of energy and feel wonderful but my muscles and body are extremely fatigued. Throughout the day it feels like Im being choked by tiny hands and its difficult to breathe.

Ive experimented thinking I did IF for too long and hurt my body, but even now If I eat upon rising the same thing happens. If I eat more refined carbs I get the typical sugar rush but still stay fatigued. Caffeine seems to have the opposite effect on me, as if when I Drink coffee my body is fighting it, making me feel worse.

Many times, no matter how big a meal I eat, no matter the macro nutrient ratio, I get extremely tired.

The only time I start to feel better is when I do IF or dont eat at all, most of the time I dont have an appetite at all, but I simply cant not eat for a week!

I know that was long but I know details are important. I hope someone out there has some advice or knows something about what this could be and what I should do.


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I wanted to come back and provide an update:

After another month of the same symptoms (fatigue, difficulty concentrating, light-headedness, bowel inconsistency, cold extremities)

I went to another clinic to have a mononucleosis test performed, which came back negative.

They seemed particularly worried given the amount of time my symptoms were persisting and had some bloodwork done.

The results were surprising and finally caught the attention of my GP and he is going to have me see a Hematologist. Hopefully we will finally have some answers.

Here is my most recent bloodwork:

White blood cells: 3.3 k/ul Red blood cells: 4.17 m/ul Hemoglobin: 13.4 g/dl Hematocrit: 37.3% MCV: 89.4 fL MCH: 32.1 pg MCHC: 35.9% RBC Dist. width: 13.0% Platelet count 176 k/uL

Segs: 52.7% Lymphocytes: 35.8% Monocytes: 9.7% Eosinophilis: 0.9% Basophils: 0.9% ABS Segs: 1.7 k/uL ABS Lymphocytes: 1.2 k/uL ABS Monocytes: 0.3 k/uL ABS Basophils: 0.0 k/uL ABS Eosinophils: 0.0 k/uL

Sodium 139 mEQ/L Potassium 4.3 mEQ/L Chloride 105 mEq/L Carbon Dioxide 26 mEq/L Urea Nitrogen 19 mg/dl Creatinine 1.00 mg/dl Glucose 89 mg/dl calcium total 9.5 mg/dl protein total 6.8 mg/dl albumin 4.8 mg/dl SGOT { AST } 20 U/L SGPT { ALT } 19 U/L Alkaline Phosphatase 61 U/L Bilirubin Total 0.4 mg/dl

Thank god this is the second time my thyroid back in normal range!

TSH: 1.313 uIU/mL

3b031bce7c181c10452ee202e2b54dc6

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on March 25, 2013
at 10:52 PM

this is where we are at now. Still unable to discover what is wrong. I am scheduled to see an integrative health doctor soon

64a152b22b830b971382eeb90fb27c7f

(20)

on January 12, 2013
at 06:49 AM

Oh, wait - I was on it 3 times a day. A for a total of 25 days. First time it was a 5 day dose and it started to work great - then came back with a vengeance 24 hours later. I waited and did natural stuff and got worse and worse - three weeks after that I asked for the maximum dose of metro - 20 days. I was anal (no pun intended) about taking it as directed every 8 hours on the dot.

64a152b22b830b971382eeb90fb27c7f

(20)

on January 12, 2013
at 06:44 AM

There are also natural ways to deal with it - I did food grade diatomaceous earth, wormwood tincture, cloves, you name it. But I had been infested too long and nothing worked. I still take food grade diatomaceous earth daily as a prophylactic now. I am terrified of getting it ever again because I am still dealing with lung issues I never before had. I am getting better, but I really hate wheezing and taking albuterol. Iodine supplementation after the metronidazole is imperative. Look up iodine deficiency. I paint my skin - I don't swallow it.

64a152b22b830b971382eeb90fb27c7f

(20)

on January 12, 2013
at 06:42 AM

I was on 250 mg twice a day. More than that and yes there are nasty side effects. It's nasty. I don't know the name of the three day test - I was diagnosed via symptoms and immediately slapped on the meds (after a year of suffering I didn't care). But I have friends whose daughter suffered for 6 months with giardiasis and had numerous single tests that came out negative. It wasn't until they did this "three day test" that she showed positive. I assume - not to get too graphic but this is fecal oriented - she had to do a stool sample on cards for three straight days.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on January 12, 2013
at 06:28 AM

What was the dosage of metronidazole? I took it for two weeks 1000 mg per day and I had all kinds of side effects. What kind of 3 days long tests do they run on giardiasis?

3b031bce7c181c10452ee202e2b54dc6

(803)

on January 12, 2013
at 04:05 AM

Ive heard of this before, but I dont think my diet has anything to do with it

3b031bce7c181c10452ee202e2b54dc6

(803)

on January 12, 2013
at 03:18 AM

right, but I was just wondering if anyone had anything similar going on and could just provide some help in he meantime. I am seeking advice but appointments and testing can't all be done in one day :(

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on January 12, 2013
at 01:44 AM

Yes, and I hope you find out what ails you, but we cannot help you with medical questions, as we aren't doctors, and are not able to examine you physically.

3b031bce7c181c10452ee202e2b54dc6

(803)

on January 12, 2013
at 01:38 AM

Well that may be true, but as it stands right now, Im just having difficulty breathing (not much) and just daily lethargy.

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on January 13, 2013
at 04:12 AM

FWIW I think it certainly could be viral. I had mono for months before a positive blood test for it, and at that point I was in the hospital, delirious, with jaundice and a liver that was barely working.

For starters do what's needed to take care of yourself, regardless of knowing what's causing it. I pushed myself too hard, because the Drs couldn't find anything, and I don't think that helped.

The most help I had was from an Internal Medicine specialist, who at least had the attitude of "well there's something going on here, even if we haven't figured it out yet" - I wonder if it is worth seeing some form of specialist.

3b031bce7c181c10452ee202e2b54dc6

(803)

on March 25, 2013
at 10:52 PM

this is where we are at now. Still unable to discover what is wrong. I am scheduled to see an integrative health doctor soon

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64a152b22b830b971382eeb90fb27c7f

on January 12, 2013
at 05:55 AM

Okay - having just come through something similar and since you were in a foreign country - get tested for parasites if you haven't already. Both giardiasis and the worms they travel with do a stint in the lungs causing excessive congestion and coughing. I suffered for a year before being diagnosed and just finished treatment 3 months ago. It will take me up to a year to fully heal. There are times when you feel better than others - they are not 'shedding' at these times. Then the diarrhea comes back.

May not be, but please get tested - and don't settle for one test. If the parasites aren't shedding you can test negative. Insist on the longer 3 day test. I was on a month's worth of metronidazole and Pin-X (OTC). Nasty and it really damaged my gut, but there was no other choice. I am now on the road to healing.

All the best.

64a152b22b830b971382eeb90fb27c7f

(20)

on January 12, 2013
at 06:42 AM

I was on 250 mg twice a day. More than that and yes there are nasty side effects. It's nasty. I don't know the name of the three day test - I was diagnosed via symptoms and immediately slapped on the meds (after a year of suffering I didn't care). But I have friends whose daughter suffered for 6 months with giardiasis and had numerous single tests that came out negative. It wasn't until they did this "three day test" that she showed positive. I assume - not to get too graphic but this is fecal oriented - she had to do a stool sample on cards for three straight days.

64a152b22b830b971382eeb90fb27c7f

(20)

on January 12, 2013
at 06:49 AM

Oh, wait - I was on it 3 times a day. A for a total of 25 days. First time it was a 5 day dose and it started to work great - then came back with a vengeance 24 hours later. I waited and did natural stuff and got worse and worse - three weeks after that I asked for the maximum dose of metro - 20 days. I was anal (no pun intended) about taking it as directed every 8 hours on the dot.

64a152b22b830b971382eeb90fb27c7f

(20)

on January 12, 2013
at 06:44 AM

There are also natural ways to deal with it - I did food grade diatomaceous earth, wormwood tincture, cloves, you name it. But I had been infested too long and nothing worked. I still take food grade diatomaceous earth daily as a prophylactic now. I am terrified of getting it ever again because I am still dealing with lung issues I never before had. I am getting better, but I really hate wheezing and taking albuterol. Iodine supplementation after the metronidazole is imperative. Look up iodine deficiency. I paint my skin - I don't swallow it.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on January 12, 2013
at 06:28 AM

What was the dosage of metronidazole? I took it for two weeks 1000 mg per day and I had all kinds of side effects. What kind of 3 days long tests do they run on giardiasis?

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on January 12, 2013
at 06:08 PM

The only time I start to feel better is when I do IF or dont eat at all, most of the time I dont have an appetite at all, but I simply cant not eat for a week!

You could ask Jaminet on www.perfecthealthdiet.com, I think he would home in on this statement as helpful in narrowing down the possible causes. What happens if you eat a ketogenic VLC diet?

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on January 12, 2013
at 01:57 AM

I have just been through the same thing only no traveling for me. Please read "breaking the vicious cycle". It helped me. You will find a free PDF on-line. It just might help you. I was also training 2x a day. I was tested for everything I/doctors could think of...

Scott I can send you the PDF, its a short read but pure gold. I have read for 20 years on health but never knew this info.

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on January 12, 2013
at 04:05 AM

Ive heard of this before, but I dont think my diet has anything to do with it

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26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

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on January 12, 2013
at 01:02 AM

I don't think any of us are qualified to answer this question. Since you traveled overseas, you could've picked up and carried over any number of things. Please keep seeing doctors until the root of your problem is determined. Godspeed and good luck.

3b031bce7c181c10452ee202e2b54dc6

(803)

on January 12, 2013
at 03:18 AM

right, but I was just wondering if anyone had anything similar going on and could just provide some help in he meantime. I am seeking advice but appointments and testing can't all be done in one day :(

26b0f1261d1a0d916825bd0deeb96a21

(5798)

on January 12, 2013
at 01:44 AM

Yes, and I hope you find out what ails you, but we cannot help you with medical questions, as we aren't doctors, and are not able to examine you physically.

3b031bce7c181c10452ee202e2b54dc6

(803)

on January 12, 2013
at 01:38 AM

Well that may be true, but as it stands right now, Im just having difficulty breathing (not much) and just daily lethargy.

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