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Failing Stories of Fasting?

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Created February 14, 2011 at 2:44 PM

Does anyone have any stories of how IF has NOT helped them? And why do you think it might have failed? Would love to hear both sides of the IF coin.

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on February 14, 2011
at 06:47 PM

agreed! I always feel like a whiner if I think a binge is the result of a set point--but I am beginning to disagree with that. Reason being is that if I lose five pounds over the course of three weeks, then I can cheat for a day and gain right back up to what I weighed before. then if I continue to eat whatever non paleo as much as I want for the rest of the week still weigh the same. It is like my body is commanding me to get back to that weight (which I am not happy with).

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on February 14, 2011
at 04:55 PM

Good luck! I hope it works out well for you.

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" I would often find myself finishing the fast with a binge because I felt I had 'earned' it." thanks for posting that, that is an interesting ancedote. I always thought-- well if two meals a day (16/8) doesnt work for me, then there is no way a 24 hour fast will help either. I think i might give this a try to see if a 24 hour works better for me.

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Yes exactly; for example right now I am around 1.5hrs away from my dinner and I am starting to get hungry - but I feel it in my throat, not my stomach. I can't remember where I read that but apparently 'real' hunger is felt in the throat. It may actually have been something Dr. Fuhrman once posted somewhere...anyway, yes, it definitely opens your eyes to true hunger.

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i found it helped me to know what "real" hunger is.

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on February 14, 2011
at 06:08 PM

I think the binge following a fast might not always be psychological, but in some cases the result of a nutritional deficiency (or, more controversially, the body's defense of a set point).

In my case, I started on a binge-purge-fast cycle soon after I started intermittent fasting while eating low carb paleo. (I tried out both a 16/8 fasting/eating window and the ESE approach). I was still eating plenty of calories, mostly as meat and coconut oil, taking in a daily average of 2000 calories or more for a 4'10" frame. However, even after I removed nuts from my diet, I would binge on meat, fish, and leafy greens like chard, all while continuing to IF. This made me feel physically ill and mentally crazy, as I've heard time and time again that "no one binges on steak and leafy greens," but I was doing it. For other health reasons, I finally decided to increase my consumption of tubers and fruit, and now I don't binge any longer, even when I fast. Sadly, IF has not yet allowed me to achieve "sweet abs," but I'll continue to lift weights and see what happens.

In conclusion, I think IF can be a powerful tool, but everyone has different nutritional needs that must be met, or risk bankrupting his or her body. It's important to note that bingeing is not always a psychological problem. No doubt sometimes it is. But other times the body is truly starving for a nutrient that the mind hasn't necessarily identified, and it has nothing to do with being mentally weak.

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on February 14, 2011
at 06:47 PM

agreed! I always feel like a whiner if I think a binge is the result of a set point--but I am beginning to disagree with that. Reason being is that if I lose five pounds over the course of three weeks, then I can cheat for a day and gain right back up to what I weighed before. then if I continue to eat whatever non paleo as much as I want for the rest of the week still weigh the same. It is like my body is commanding me to get back to that weight (which I am not happy with).

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on February 14, 2011
at 03:26 PM

As luckybastard said, failure is very broad and also quite personal.

I have been experimenting with IF for about a year now and think that I finally have it 'sorted' for me personally. I now tend to fast from dinner to dinner, except for weekends when I may have breakfast or lunch with friends. This works well for me as generally speaking, I find it difficult to eat many 'small' meals as I am a bit of a glutton and never feel satisfied - so one big meal at the end of the day works perfectly.

With regards to 'failing', beforehand when I was experimenting with both 16/8 and alternate day fasting, I would often find myself finishing the fast with a binge because I felt I had 'earned' it. I didn't make much progress. I think the 16/8 fasts just weren't long enough for me to really get an understanding of my body, and the alternate day fasts were too long. I now eat a good amount of starch, a moderate amount of protein and a big heap of fat when I break my fast - and I am completely satisfied until my next meal ~24hrs later. The starch here really helps.

I've read a lot of posts on the internet from people stuck in binge/fast cycles, and I have experienced this first hand, so for people who have any issues with food (food as a reward, as comfort etc.) then I can see how they would be likely to 'fail'. IF certainly does not work for everybody.

7e1064164e012a1ead098098245b1cd4

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on February 14, 2011
at 04:12 PM

Yes exactly; for example right now I am around 1.5hrs away from my dinner and I am starting to get hungry - but I feel it in my throat, not my stomach. I can't remember where I read that but apparently 'real' hunger is felt in the throat. It may actually have been something Dr. Fuhrman once posted somewhere...anyway, yes, it definitely opens your eyes to true hunger.

7e1064164e012a1ead098098245b1cd4

(1197)

on February 14, 2011
at 04:55 PM

Good luck! I hope it works out well for you.

D67e7b481854b02110d5a5b21d6789b1

(4101)

on February 14, 2011
at 04:39 PM

" I would often find myself finishing the fast with a binge because I felt I had 'earned' it." thanks for posting that, that is an interesting ancedote. I always thought-- well if two meals a day (16/8) doesnt work for me, then there is no way a 24 hour fast will help either. I think i might give this a try to see if a 24 hour works better for me.

66e6b190e62fb3bcf42d4c60801c7bf6

(12407)

on February 14, 2011
at 03:30 PM

i found it helped me to know what "real" hunger is.

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on February 14, 2011
at 04:34 PM

hej, i think this form of fasting for a half a day or longer. This is verygood and chilling. drinking tea in this time or good water.

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on February 14, 2011
at 02:49 PM

Failure is too broad a term, i think. I did a combination of Martin Berkhan's Lean Gains and occasional 24 hour fasts. The good things that it did was it made me able to deal with hunger better than I've ever been able to in my life and it put an overdrive on my weight loss. The unexpected complication was that it aided in messing up my sleep pattern. My theory is that it taxed my adrenals a bit and did something weird. However, tossing potatoes into the mix has seemingly helped get it back on track and I've gone back to IF'ing with only very occasional sleep problems.

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