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Evening workouts, fasted mornings, protein synthesis, DOMS?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 11, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Normally I workout between 19:00 - 21:00, eat around 70% of my calories post-workout, and fast through the following breakfast till 13:00. Non-workout days I also fast through breakfast.

For the last two months I have upped the workload (and mobility), gained muscle, and expected levels of delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS).

Been pondering protein synthesis and DOMS and whether or not it would actually be better to eat breakfast the mornings after my heavy workouts rather than fasting through?

Thoughts?

17.06.13 Update:

Maybe I should drink fermented milk!

@mashdot Could a pint of fermented milk alleviate DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness)? http://j.mp/1bMwi4y

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on July 30, 2013
at 06:42 PM

This absolutely worked for me, and I didn't even have to work out every day. I even fixed a muscle I thought I had pulled, between my neck and shoulder. Just had to do one set at half the weight a day or two after when the pain set it, and repeated until the pain went away. It's very effective.

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

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on June 12, 2013
at 08:00 AM

Thanks, I recently switched to fasted training (albeit fasted since lunch around 13:00) and then whey post-workout while cooking dinner. 200mg magnesium before bed.

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

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on June 11, 2013
at 04:46 PM

Thanks JD, I already do a wave protocol: http://paleohacks.com/questions/143056/hiit-and-bodyweight-workout-frequency-at-home/143068#143068

5583b82f29a6b24264ca4b9836abd925

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on June 11, 2013
at 03:24 PM

Thanks for the help! :)

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

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on June 11, 2013
at 02:17 PM

CJ, I think the easiest would be to point you here as a starting point: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/health-benefits-of-intermittent-fasting/

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on June 11, 2013
at 04:22 PM

I found the easiest way to avoid DOMS was to workout every day. You can cycle intensity if you are worried about "overtraining". I never felt better than when I started skipping breakfast. Just coffee and a heaping spoon of coconut oil. Maybe a grapefruit mid-morning, but not always. And then eat my face off after that. I let my body be my guide as far as breaks from working out, or quantity of food. If I didn't feel like eating as much, I wouldn't. If I felt tired, I would dial back the intensity. Just my 2 cents.

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

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on June 11, 2013
at 04:46 PM

Thanks JD, I already do a wave protocol: http://paleohacks.com/questions/143056/hiit-and-bodyweight-workout-frequency-at-home/143068#143068

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on July 30, 2013
at 06:42 PM

This absolutely worked for me, and I didn't even have to work out every day. I even fixed a muscle I thought I had pulled, between my neck and shoulder. Just had to do one set at half the weight a day or two after when the pain set it, and repeated until the pain went away. It's very effective.

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on June 11, 2013
at 05:01 PM

I'm avoiding DOMS by drinking BCAA's during the workout and then immediately following the work out take high amounts of l-glutamine. I don't have to, but I often find a protein shake with 200 mg of magnesium is additionally supportive. I'm a little sore the next day but nothing that isn't manageable or more than a passing annoyance.

I tend to work out at night, eat large right after, and then not eat again until 11:00 - 13:00.

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

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on June 12, 2013
at 08:00 AM

Thanks, I recently switched to fasted training (albeit fasted since lunch around 13:00) and then whey post-workout while cooking dinner. 200mg magnesium before bed.

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5583b82f29a6b24264ca4b9836abd925

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on June 11, 2013
at 02:07 PM

Excuse my ignorance, but I've never really understood skipping breakfast, or any meal for that matter. Does it really help something to miss out on what's said to be the most important meal of the day?

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

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on June 11, 2013
at 02:17 PM

CJ, I think the easiest would be to point you here as a starting point: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/health-benefits-of-intermittent-fasting/

5583b82f29a6b24264ca4b9836abd925

(261)

on June 11, 2013
at 03:24 PM

Thanks for the help! :)

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