I'm currently eating leangains-woe with primal foods. I'm eating about a 100-110 grams carbs on rest days and about 2000 calories total and 340-360 grams of carbs on workout days, 3000 calories total. My PWO meal is very big, around 1600-1700 calories with around 150 grams protein and 230-250 grams carbs and as little fat as possible (under 20 grams). I've upped the carb intake because I do not wan't my weight to go any lower (as it did with upped-but-still-lower-amount of carbs). I cycle the carbs cause I do not have any intention to gain a lot of weight, at least not fat (I guess the main reason why anybody is doing leangains...)
Today I had a PWO meal with 1300 grams of sweet potato, that is 2.87 pounds or 46 ounces. Together with a little short of a pound of chicken and a pound of frozen broccoli. I still eat a lot of broccoli and cauliflower in both my high- and lower-carb meals, because a) I've read that vegetables should not be forgotten when eating higher calories b) they taste good, obviously and c) they add bulk to the food and who doesn't like a big plate :)
Now this kind of meal - even when clean and fully paleo - is quite a pile of food in sheer volume, and when I'm done eating, I feel like laying down on the couch for at least 20-30 minutes. And especially if the PWO meal is meal #2 - like on weekends - i still have a good size meal that I "have to" eat to hit my daily calorie target. This meal often makes me even more full.
Now is there any harm of eating these kinds of amounts of food at one sitting, and eating good size meal even after 3-4 hours? A lot of leangains-followers do eat non-paleo foods, but I really don't think that adding cheesecakes or cereal is an optimal solution. I know some of you may suggest adding fat and/or milk, but its not really a "leangains-solution", as I want to keep the fat amount low on workout days, and I'm not quite sure if I want to start eating dairy. Fruit would be an easy solution, and actually would be pretty easy replace some of the sweet potato with berries or kiwis. I had a pint of Ben&Jerry's sorbet last week (fat-none, sugar-plenty), and yeah ice cream/sorbet is always a nice and cooling dessert no matter how huge the actual meal was. I'm not saying that 100% paleo and leangains are impossible to mix, but I'm just wondering if the huge meals are doing me any harm.
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on July 17, 2011
at 02:24 AM
Alright, someone finally willing to eat like they need to if they wanna force growth! Makes me smile.
I don't think there's anything harmful in that huge of a meal. If you continually do it you'll no doubt get used to it.
Granted I don't hit it quite as hard in one sitting as you but when I first was eating something similar I'd feel pretty full. Not necessarily sleepy but full of food:) I got used to it.
And being sleep after a huge bolus of calories is natural.
Just as a comment I don't think you need To eat that sheer amount of calories in one sitting. I mean, if the full feeling really bothers you you could do like half or two thirds immediately PWO and then the rest 2 or 3 hours later.
on July 16, 2011
at 07:07 PM
Sweet potatoes and potatoes are really nutrient dense mixed with nutrient dense animal foods they supply all nutrients.
Wild vegetables have poison in them and you can only eat a little bit.
If you are trying to gain as much as you, you are going to want to eat as much as you can and low-cal veggies are just tricking you. Stick with nutrient dense carbs and nutrient dense fats/proteins.
Use Cronometer or some other program like it and you'll see with the right combination of sweet potato or potato or both with salt and animal foods you'll get more than everything.
I recommend to just eat as much as you can as long as you are trying to gain weight and putting in the effort to put yourself in G-Flux Mode there is no need in restricting yourself to certain calories or times of day.
High volume of foods do not affect you if you need them.