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fasting blood sugars

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has anyone here experienced a drop in their fasting blood sugars after going paleo? how long did it take? not concerned about weight loss, just stable blood sugars and n=1!!!!

is it possible to go paleo, NOT lose weight, and decrease insulin resistance?

i am 5'8 and 110 lbs with fbg of 95-110, depending on the amount of carbs i eat. i feel obligated to eat SOME carbs (i don't do zero carbs) bc i am so skinny. thanks

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on December 08, 2011
at 08:57 PM

that is awesome, thanks for sharing!

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on December 07, 2011
at 07:08 AM

Dropped to 63 after being VLC for two months.

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on December 06, 2011
at 09:29 PM

so im guessing 99.9 percent of people on paleo lose weight then?

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on December 06, 2011
at 09:00 PM

it would be interesting to know what you're eating outside of the fasts if you've not lost weight.

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on December 06, 2011
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Feel obligated to eat carbs because of how delicious and nutritious vegetables are.

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that is so encouraging!!! i'm sorry you haven't lost weight tho. have you tried eating some carbs, like a potato or something to see if you spike after eating? i would kill for my fasting numbers to be that low!! i really feel like they set you up for a day of failure.

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on December 07, 2011
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your fasting blood glucose may drop after going paleo depending on your current & previous diet & exercise regimes.
But note, that this will stop & in fact your fasting blood glucose may rise (seems to be dependant on carb intake), but do not worry. This has been discussed many times in the low carb community.

Here are a few links where this has been discussed;
"In general, very low-carb diets tend to raise fasting blood glucose and 2-hr glucose levels in response to an oral glucose tolerance test. This is a well-known phenomenon in the low-carb community."
"Peter notes that low-carb dieters will generally perform poorly on glucose tolerance tests, but that increasing carb intake to about 30% of calories is sufficient to produce a normal response to a glucose challenge:
The general opinion in LC circles is that you need 150g of carbohydrate per day for three days before an oral glucose tolerance test." http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=5027

comment by Kurt G. Harris MD "It's actually the VLC eaters that have higher physiologic IR and higher fasting BG to compensate for less reliable dietary glucose delivery. The body's compensation for VLC that is attempting to make BG more stable in a glucose-scarce dietary regime means higher fasting BG and lower BG rises with the typical VLC meal.

When going back to moderate carbs, the post meal BG may rise more, but the fasting and inter-meal BG falls due to reduced physiologic IR.

So unless you were diabetic, the AUC for BG is probably a wash between VLC and moderate carbs and you have accomplished nothing except making yourself more susceptible to a real BG spike if you cheat with a big carb bolus while on VLC.

That's the main fallacy of the LC crowd's belief that eating low carb means lower average blood glucose levels - it doesn't for most people." http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2011/10/keep-leptinade-flowing-im-going-to-die.html?showComment=1319846419749#c2638038940406132727

"Lowcarb diets increase/decrease insulin resistance-which one is it?" http://paleohacks.com/questions/11888/lowcarb-diets-increase-decrease-insulin-resistance-which-one-is-it

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on December 07, 2011
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I was T2 diabetic after going paleo then LC all blood glucose reading were normal or below after about 3 months. I have been LC-VLC for years and my fasting BG is usually 85-95ish. If I do eat carbs I do spike but it comes back to normal quickly. I work hard physically every day and have done so for years I am never low energy and all my blood work is near perfect, even my doctor is starting to recommend paleo to some of his patients now.

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on December 08, 2011
at 08:57 PM

that is awesome, thanks for sharing!

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on December 06, 2011
at 08:27 PM

"is it possible to go paleo, NOT lose weight, and decrease insulin resistance?"

It certainly is! That's been exactly my experience, so far. In a nutshell:

~ 2000 to 2010: loosely followed the Zone diet (similar to primal, but I definitely ate junk, as well). Didn't keep track of my blood glucose levels.

~ Jan 2010 to July 2011: 80/20 primal diet. Still, my fasting BG levels weren't good (often above 100; and morning fasting levels were really poor, often in the 120s - 130s).

~ August 2011 - present: I cut out the "20%" of cheating, and eliminated all grains & alcohol, almost all legumes & sugar. I upped my intermittent fasting, doing 1-2 24-hour fasts per week, and the remaining days, doing 18-20 hour fasts. -- I checked my morning fasting BG a couple of weeks ago (Nov 2011), and found them at 65 mg/dL! I rechecked to be sure that it wasn't a misreading, and the duplicate reading was 62. -- I also happened to have bloodwork done at the doctor's office, and found that my postprandial BG level after a small meal (which unfortunately had consisted mostly of carbs), was 77 mg/dL. My insulin levels were also measured, and my doctor was enthusiastic about how optimal these were.

At the same time, I was disappointed to see that I haven't lost a single inch around my waist (I need to lose at least ~15 inches to be in the healthy range!), and am not sure if I've lost any fat. When I'm fasting, I do feel a fat-burning sensation, but apparently, the fat loss is coming very, very slowly for me. But as far as I can tell, my insulin resistance seems to be under control, and my BG levels appear to be optimal now. I'm hoping that maybe there is internal healing that needs to happen for me, before the fat loss can occur...

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on December 06, 2011
at 09:00 PM

it would be interesting to know what you're eating outside of the fasts if you've not lost weight.

293ba4c95d190bc616b27d85b10d705a

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on December 06, 2011
at 09:29 PM

so im guessing 99.9 percent of people on paleo lose weight then?

293ba4c95d190bc616b27d85b10d705a

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on December 06, 2011
at 08:35 PM

that is so encouraging!!! i'm sorry you haven't lost weight tho. have you tried eating some carbs, like a potato or something to see if you spike after eating? i would kill for my fasting numbers to be that low!! i really feel like they set you up for a day of failure.

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on December 07, 2011
at 01:26 AM

The surprise for me was that putting heavy cream and 1 tsp of honey in each mug of coffee only nudged my fasting BG up about 10 points. I guess I expected a much larger reaction.

My BG was okay before going ancestral but I do think it's running a little lower now; I am moderate carbs including fruit and water kefir.

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