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Would additional n6 be helpful for fighting infection/cold/flu?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 14, 2011 at 2:56 PM

So, I finally got a cold from my daughters and I was just thinking:

Since linoleic acid upregulates an inflammatory response - maybe that's good for fighting off infections (bacterial or viral) and a little extra omega 6 might not be a bad thing in that circumstance (assuming that generally inflammation is low and n6/n3 is well balanced otherwise).

If so, I might have to hit the nuts.

Or should we always avoid n6 as much as possible?

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on September 15, 2011
at 03:34 PM

Travis, for the win! I didn't think it would be a good idea, but I needed it explained. Biochemistry is complicated.

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on September 15, 2011
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Travis, just curious - what do you do for a job/study? Your answers are always amazingly detailed. Have you studied biology? Hopefully your not just some crazy dude making shit up, and sounding really smart :)

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on September 14, 2011
at 05:40 PM

40,000 IUs of D3 for a couple of days can be helpful, ancedotally. I've done this & successfully warded off an impending cold--back before I had a D level of 80 ng/ml...

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on September 14, 2011
at 03:57 PM

I completely agree Ambimorph...we need a healthy functioning inflammatory response to have proper healing in our bodies when we need it. Dave, that's an interesting question, I'm curious to see what others have to say...my immune go tos are bone broth and fermented liquids, tea, water, and more bone broth.

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That's an interesting question. It bothers me that people often talk about inflammation as if it were a bad thing intrinsically. *Excess* inflammation is a bad thing, and most people on the SAD will have too much, not too little. It's like the old cholesterol talk. OTOH, I haven't actually heard talk about people having problems creating inflammation when needed. Is it really a problem?

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on September 14, 2011
at 04:07 PM

Linoleic acid doesn't upregulate inflammation, but the need for inflammation upregulates the formation of eicosanoids from linoleic acid (assuming that there isn't a sufficient supply of arachidonic acid). As such, unless you are currently deficient in n-6 fats (which I think is actually possible with some paleo iterations) it will likely have no effect.

I think the best strategy for preventing future colds/flus would be 60ng/ml+ of 25(OH)D and addressing a marginal zinc status.

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on September 14, 2011
at 05:40 PM

40,000 IUs of D3 for a couple of days can be helpful, ancedotally. I've done this & successfully warded off an impending cold--back before I had a D level of 80 ng/ml...

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on September 15, 2011
at 07:56 AM

Travis, just curious - what do you do for a job/study? Your answers are always amazingly detailed. Have you studied biology? Hopefully your not just some crazy dude making shit up, and sounding really smart :)

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on September 14, 2011
at 04:02 PM

My feeling is it would cause extra stress on the immune system just when your body needs it least. I.e. your body would be fighting off said virus/bacteria PLUS the results of the omega-6s. I mean, they cause inflammation for a reason, you know? Your body is fighting something, not just inflamed for no particular reason, right?

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on September 14, 2011
at 04:47 PM

Forget about it, its not useful, it is most probably harmful because of opportunistic bacterial infections and overactive immune system. Most probably you have enough w-6 and not enough w-3 since those are rare in food (walnuts, fish, flax). W-3 is also not helpfull, it needs to be taken weeks before for COX inhibition (the same is true for w-6, process of membrane integration doesn't happen over night). You need rapid acting solution.

For cold, this is what you should do:

  • Do not eat. Viruses are intracellular intruders, you need to promote xenophagy.

  • Ascorbate Acid Powder, every 1 hour 1 teaspoon freshly made in carbonated water with magnesium with some limunade or kiwi gel. You can add ehinacea and/or propolis. You need to take from 30-100g per day of Ascorbate, and this depends on your level of body stress. If you get flatulence, lower the dose by half but still continue until you are sympthom free. If you can't tolerate flatulence, order liposome encapsulated ascorbate.

  • NAC, 600mg per day, to boost glutathion.

  • Vitamin D3, 10K IU.

  • 1 multivitamin

  • Lots of water, tea, chicken soup.

  • Rest

To prevent it, regular cold showers, ascorbate, Vitamin D, Alkylglicerides (Shark liver oil) and low carb diet are enough.

I didn't have cold in years.

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