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Vagal Nerve Stimulation - what's it all about?

Commented on March 18, 2016
Created April 26, 2011 at 12:51 PM

Dr. Art Ayers over at Cooling Inflammation has as one of his recommendations vagal nerve stimulation. He implies that it reduces inflammation.

It appears to be used for epilepsy and depression, but I'm not sure how it works for that, either.

1) How does it work to reduce inflammation and how effective is it?
2) How do you do it?
3) Have you had any experience with it?

Background: The vagal nerve is "The Wanderer" that is connected to all the organs. From wiki:

"The vagus nerve supplies motor parasympathetic fibers to all the organs except the suprarenal (adrenal) glands, from the neck down to the second segment of the transverse colon."

"This means that the vagus nerve is responsible for such varied tasks as heart rate, gastrointestinal peristalsis, sweating, and quite a few muscle movements in the mouth, including speech and keeping the larynx open for breathing."

"Vagus nerve stimulation (VNS) therapy using a pacemaker-like device implanted in the chest is a treatment used since 1997 to control seizures in epilepsy patients and has recently been approved for treating drug-resistant cases of clinical depression."

"VNS may also be achieved by one of the vagal maneuvers: holding the breath for a few seconds, dipping the face in cold water, coughing, or tensing the stomach muscles as if to bear down to have a bowel movement."

(Okay, I guess I just answered #2...)

A259f553565fc421167e74ed729ca57e

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on March 18, 2016
at 12:03 AM

Before I was converted to Christianity, I was a Third Degree Witch
(the highest real degree) and the High Priest of my Local Coven. We were
Black Left Hand Path so that our only secrets were names & places. We
reveal what the White Right Hand Path suppresses.
THEY suppress anything associated with vagal stimulation, the most
efficient way to enter the Underworld. "You cannot enter the Underworld
without the Golden Bough (the vagus nerve)"- Virgil. Even blueberry
candy was unavailable until recently.
There are the Three Levels. The first is euphoric and is sought by
practicioners of "the choking game", and "sexual asphyxia", that was
called "Gomory" in the original Book of Jasher. Blue lips: blueberry
candy; see the connection?
When you stimulate any part of a kind of nervous system that
stimulation will eventually spread to all the other parts of that kind of
nervous system. Massage the Vishuddha Chakra hard and/or long enough and
its stimulation will eventually spread all the way down to the Muladhara
chakra, sexual asphyxia. That was called Gomory, the sin of Gomorrah.
Scar tissue in the sympathetic nervous system will keep that whole
kind of nervous system stimulated in the unpleasant disease called
Reflux Sympathetic Dystrophy.
Scar tissue in the parasympathetic (muscarinic) nervous system
causes a disease the old antisuperstitious Soviet Union called "Shamans'
Disease", which in the superstitious West has been suppressed under the
tag of schizophrenia.
IT has nothing to do with oxygen content, it is the physically
stimulated muscarinic nervous system awakening the brain more than
normal.
Witches seek the mental powers, magickal powers, of the Second Level. In
there your visualizations, held by your will, manifest as reality. That
is magick power.
When the power gets out of hand you have entered the Third Level
which is Hell itself. You can spend a thousand years in there and return
before you left. Some of us (there are several of us in here) have spent
more than 99% of our time in Hell. You could call us real Hellians,
"explorers in the further regions of experiance, demons to some, angels
to others", for real.
I was also Ninth Degree - Second House in the Clerics of
Azagthoth. If you Google about this, you will see that we engraved this
Secret in zinc and steel disks and scaled thousands of them out our car
windows all over eastern Massachusetts.
Coincidently, others, who have been around, also attained the Third
Degree of Witchcraft and were assigned to be High Priests of their Local
Covens, for, these covens are mostly composed of women, and High Priests
are scarce. It's a very pleasurable position.
And, the highest degree most attain in the Clerics of Azagthoth is
the Ninth Degree - Second House, for, in order to be an Ipsissimus,
Tenth Degree - First House, you have to be impervious to pain. Forget
it!
The White Right Hand Path (known as orderly evil) has tried to
exterminate the Black Left Hand Path (known as chaotic evil) since time
immemorial. THEY say "Ordo Ab Chao", and the Black Left Hand Path says
"Chao Ab Ordo". THEY suppress profane vagal stimulation to maintain
THEIR order, and force THEIR civilization of the people.
Being on the run, I haven't had time to look up the exact chapter
and verse. It's in there. Just ask any Christian minister. It's why
Christianity has been spread around the world so vehemently; but, they
missed the Secret. I have never met a Christian who knew what the cross
really does. It's a touchy subject, so I haven't asked any, yet.

A259f553565fc421167e74ed729ca57e

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on March 17, 2016
at 11:53 AM

     Before I was converted to Christianity, I was a Third Degree Witch
(the highest real degree) and the High Priest of my Local Coven. We were
Black Left Hand Path so that our only secrets were names & places. We
reveal what the White Right Hand Path suppresses.
      THEY suppress anything associated with vagal stimulation, the most
efficient way to enter the Underworld. "You cannot enter the Underworld
without the Golden Bough (the vagus nerve)"- Virgil. Even blueberry
candy was unavailable until recently.
      There are the Three Levels. The first is euphoric and is sought by
practicioners of "the choking game", and "sexual asphyxia", that was
called "Gomory" in the original Book of Jasher. Blue lips: blueberry
candy; see the connection?
      When you stimulate any part of a kind of nervous system that
stimulation will eventually spread to all the other parts of that kind of
nervous system. Massage the Vishuddha Chakra hard and/or long enough and
its stimulation will eventually spread all the way down to the Muladhara
chakra, sexual asphyxia. That was called Gomory, the sin of Gomorrah.
      Scar tissue in the sympathetic nervous system will keep that whole
kind of nervous system stimulated in the unpleasant disease called
Reflux Sympathetic Dystrophy.
      Scar tissue in the parasympathetic (muscarinic) nervous system
causes a disease the old antisuperstitious Soviet Union called "Shamans'
Disease", which in the superstitious West has been suppressed under the
tag of schizophrenia.
      IT has nothing to do with oxygen content, it is the physically
stimulated muscarinic nervous system awakening the brain more than
normal.
Witches seek the mental powers, magickal powers, of the Second Level. In
there your visualizations, held by your will, manifest as reality. That
is magick power.
      When the power gets out of hand you have entered the Third Level
which is Hell itself. You can spend a thousand years in there and return
before you left. Some of us (there are several of us in here) have spent
more than 99% of our time in Hell. You could call us real Hellians,
"explorers in the further regions of experiance, demons to some, angels
to others", for real.
      I was also Ninth Degree - Second House in the Clerics of
Azagthoth. If you Google about this, you will see that we engraved this
Secret in zinc and steel disks and scaled thousands of them out our car
windows all over eastern Massachusetts.
      Coincidently, others, who have been around, also attained the Third
Degree of Witchcraft and were assigned to be High Priests of their Local
Covens, for, these covens are mostly composed of women, and High Priests
are scarce. It's a very pleasurable position.
      And, the highest degree most attain in the Clerics of Azagthoth is
the Ninth Degree - Second House, for, in order to be an Ipsissimus,
Tenth Degree - First House, you have to be impervious to pain. Forget
it!
      The White Right Hand Path (known as orderly evil) has tried to
exterminate the Black Left Hand Path (known as chaotic evil) since time
immemorial. THEY say "Ordo Ab Chao", and the Black Left Hand Path says
"Chao Ab Ordo". THEY suppress profane vagal stimulation to maintain
THEIR order, and force THEIR civilization of the people.
      Being on the run, I haven't had time to look up the exact chapter
and verse. It's in there. Just ask any Christian minister. It's why
Christianity has been spread around the world so vehemently; but, they
missed the Secret. I have never met a Christian who knew what the cross
really does. It's a touchy subject, so I haven't asked any, yet. 
 
 

 

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on April 26, 2011
at 06:47 PM

It's really not invasive. Pretty simple

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 26, 2011
at 05:07 PM

Any results, other than "feeling more alive"? Did you do it often (several times a day)? Over what period of time did you carry out your experiments (month, week, more, less)?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 26, 2011
at 04:26 PM

Does "holding your breath" work because it increases CO2 levels?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 26, 2011
at 04:25 PM

Fascinating. Christie, how often did you do this? Were there any general benefits or did this just work temporarily (to soothe your anxiety at the time)?

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on April 26, 2011
at 04:12 PM

Obviously the invasive procedure does not apply here. I would do not recommend surgery.

The non-invasive procedure is also known as the dive reflex, which is evolutionarily based. Mammals have facial nerves that respond to cold stimulus, so that while diving underwater the blood would be conserved for the brain allowing more time underwater, it also has a calming effect.

I was intrigued by Dr. Ayers suggestion also, so I did the research on PsychINFO, the dive reflex works in humans, there was a study on how to administer the dive reflex in the lab, if memory serves me correct, put an ice pack on your face for 30 seconds up to a minute, if you hold your breath the effect is stronger. The effect is a decrease in anxiety.

I remember this being good for my academic anxiety.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 26, 2011
at 04:26 PM

Does "holding your breath" work because it increases CO2 levels?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 26, 2011
at 04:25 PM

Fascinating. Christie, how often did you do this? Were there any general benefits or did this just work temporarily (to soothe your anxiety at the time)?

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on April 26, 2011
at 06:47 PM

It's really not invasive. Pretty simple

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A259f553565fc421167e74ed729ca57e

on March 17, 2016
at 11:55 AM

     Before I was converted to Christianity, I was a Third Degree Witch
(the highest real degree) and the High Priest of my Local Coven. We were
Black Left Hand Path so that our only secrets were names & places. We
reveal what the White Right Hand Path suppresses.
      THEY suppress anything associated with vagal stimulation, the most
efficient way to enter the Underworld. "You cannot enter the Underworld
without the Golden Bough (the vagus nerve)"- Virgil. Even blueberry
candy was unavailable until recently.
      There are the Three Levels. The first is euphoric and is sought by
practicioners of "the choking game", and "sexual asphyxia", that was
called "Gomory" in the original Book of Jasher. Blue lips: blueberry
candy; see the connection?
      When you stimulate any part of a kind of nervous system that
stimulation will eventually spread to all the other parts of that kind of
nervous system. Massage the Vishuddha Chakra hard and/or long enough and
its stimulation will eventually spread all the way down to the Muladhara
chakra, sexual asphyxia. That was called Gomory, the sin of Gomorrah.
      Scar tissue in the sympathetic nervous system will keep that whole
kind of nervous system stimulated in the unpleasant disease called
Reflux Sympathetic Dystrophy.
      Scar tissue in the parasympathetic (muscarinic) nervous system
causes a disease the old antisuperstitious Soviet Union called "Shamans'
Disease", which in the superstitious West has been suppressed under the
tag of schizophrenia.
      IT has nothing to do with oxygen content, it is the physically
stimulated muscarinic nervous system awakening the brain more than
normal.
Witches seek the mental powers, magickal powers, of the Second Level. In
there your visualizations, held by your will, manifest as reality. That
is magick power.
      When the power gets out of hand you have entered the Third Level
which is Hell itself. You can spend a thousand years in there and return
before you left. Some of us (there are several of us in here) have spent
more than 99% of our time in Hell. You could call us real Hellians,
"explorers in the further regions of experiance, demons to some, angels
to others", for real.
      I was also Ninth Degree - Second House in the Clerics of
Azagthoth. If you Google about this, you will see that we engraved this
Secret in zinc and steel disks and scaled thousands of them out our car
windows all over eastern Massachusetts.
      Coincidently, others, who have been around, also attained the Third
Degree of Witchcraft and were assigned to be High Priests of their Local
Covens, for, these covens are mostly composed of women, and High Priests
are scarce. It's a very pleasurable position.
      And, the highest degree most attain in the Clerics of Azagthoth is
the Ninth Degree - Second House, for, in order to be an Ipsissimus,
Tenth Degree - First House, you have to be impervious to pain. Forget
it!
      The White Right Hand Path (known as orderly evil) has tried to
exterminate the Black Left Hand Path (known as chaotic evil) since time
immemorial. THEY say "Ordo Ab Chao", and the Black Left Hand Path says
"Chao Ab Ordo". THEY suppress profane vagal stimulation to maintain
THEIR order, and force THEIR civilization of the people.
      Being on the run, I haven't had time to look up the exact chapter
and verse. It's in there. Just ask any Christian minister. It's why
Christianity has been spread around the world so vehemently; but, they
missed the Secret. I have never met a Christian who knew what the cross
really does. It's a touchy subject, so I haven't asked any, yet. 
 
 

 

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on April 26, 2011
at 04:45 PM

I used to play with it.

I put water in a plastic bottle and let it stay there for a while, long enough to get it just below ice point. I then pour the water, already there are some ice pieces, in a bowl and dive in.

It's a shocker and I find it hard to hold more than 30 seconds due to coldness but I kind of feel more alive after it.

Vagal stimulation exercise link http://www.emoclear.com/thedivereflex.htm

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 26, 2011
at 05:07 PM

Any results, other than "feeling more alive"? Did you do it often (several times a day)? Over what period of time did you carry out your experiments (month, week, more, less)?

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on April 26, 2011
at 01:56 PM

It's a very interesting operation that we neurosurgeons do but has not gained wide acceptance. I have recently gone back to look at the data because I think the emf of the lead may mix the central signal to the leaky gut.

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