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Should I do intermittent fasting if I'm always hungry?

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Created October 24, 2011 at 4:41 PM

I eat anywhere from 1800-2200 calories a day. I wake up, eat breakfast (usually eggs cooked in coconut oil with sausages), a couple hours later, I'm hungry again so I eat maybe 1/2 cup (sometimes more!) of nuts, then lunch (meat/fish with veggies), then I'm ridiculously hungry again so I usually eat an avocado, a couple tablespoons of nut butter, and cook myself up an omelet, then I work out, then I eat dinner (more meat with veggies). But even in between meals and snacks, I'm hungry. I try to stave off eating snacks as long as possible until it's the only thing I can think about. I'm not trying to lose weight (I'm pretty tiny--5'3", 105 lbs) so should I just eat MORE?
And I've been reading several of Mark Sisson's posts on intermittent fasting and with my appetite and apparent NEED for food, should I not force myself into doing IF?

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on October 25, 2011
at 05:37 PM

Dextery, you should be proud of me. This morning for breakfast, I had 4.6 oz of beef short ribs cooked in coconut oil, then 3 eggs cooked in the same pan as the beef, 3 chicken sausages, and half an avocado, totaling about 1000 calories! However, two hours later, I still reached for half a cup of macadamia nuts :P BUT I did notice I wasn't AS hungry as I have been before. Cooking the steak filled up my house with smoke and it took a lot longer to eat but it was well worth it! Next time I'll cook the steak the night before as you suggested.

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on October 25, 2011
at 12:44 AM

6-8 glasses. Should I drink more?

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on October 24, 2011
at 10:08 PM

April, some have difficulty with the large breakfast in the beginning but after a while it becomes easier because this type of eating is satisfying and thus your desire to eat the volume you were accustomed to eating diminishes.

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on October 24, 2011
at 10:05 PM

luckybastard, With that I strongly disagree. I do agree with 15% protein, but that only leaves carbs and fat to eat and carbs are not satisfying to the brain...even so called safe carbs...so feed your brain with the glucose that comes from ketones. And get your energy from saturated fats...animal and coconut oil or ghee.

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on October 24, 2011
at 09:33 PM

Just make sure you're getting adequate protein- 15% of your calories should be protein for satiety- and make sure u get a big hit if those in the morning. I would figure our what your maintenance calories are, calculate your protein, divide by 3 and use that as a starting point. I would personally not go out of my way to gorge on fat- not a lipophobe, it just seems not right in the context of trying to normalize satiety. The fat inherent in the protein source should be enough.

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on October 24, 2011
at 08:47 PM

And you will not need any lunch.

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on October 24, 2011
at 08:47 PM

You will be surprised by the results. Pressed for time? Hard boiled eggs smashed up, mixed with 4 tablespoons of CO, cut up bacon and steak cooked the previous night. Take out of fridge, pile on plate, microwave and eat. Less than 10 min to microwave and eat and be gone from the house.

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on October 24, 2011
at 08:01 PM

how much water do you drink in a day? That has helped me cut back considerably.

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on October 24, 2011
at 07:54 PM

So you think your 1000+ calorie breakfast would be okay for a little girl like me to eat?

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on October 24, 2011
at 07:52 PM

I eat 3 eggs every morning. I'll probably add avocados and more veggies and I would add a bit of steak but I'm a full-time college student so I'm pressed for time in the mornings (plus I have to pack lunch as well) so not really sure if I have time to cook/eat it.

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on October 24, 2011
at 06:46 PM

I must have different genes than Korion; IF actually turns off my voracious always-hungry mode and I don't have the "coconut is the perfect food" gene. I like the taste of a little coconut but don't have any of the positive responses that many describe. I do much better with beef or bacon fat than with coconut oil, for example. Anyhow, I eat one large meal per day to lose weight--the more often I eat, the more I need/want to eat. Eating a large, fully nutritious meal turns off my appetite and I easily go 24 hours until eating again. Note: Eating junk makes my hunger worse, of course.

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on October 24, 2011
at 05:56 PM

Hmm. I was going to say that it sure seems like you haven't adapted to being a predominantly fat burner, but 3 weeks should be enough time. Are you trying to stay ketogenic? If not, it might be worth experimenting with some starches, especially after workouts. I do think that if you can't get to your next meal without a snack, you're either not eating enough or you need something else in your meals. I wouldn't force myself to IF until I could extend the length of time between meals!

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on October 24, 2011
at 05:45 PM

@Beth - about 3-4 weeks.

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on October 24, 2011
at 05:36 PM

How long have you been eating this way?

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on October 24, 2011
at 04:45 PM

No! Wait until you're cravings go away. Coconut oil helps a lot with that.

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on October 24, 2011
at 06:02 PM

I'd just eat when hungry; you're not trying to lose weight, so why force it? Also, if you're just starting out, it may be better to focus first on your food for awhile and get that dialed in, then play with stuff like IF later on if you feel so inclined- you don't want to get discouraged right off the bat by feeling hungry all the time. Just my $.02 :)

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on October 24, 2011
at 04:51 PM

For what it's worth, when I IF I'm often hungry at first/for a while but then the hunger goes away at around, say, the 14 or 15-hour mark.

This may not in any way apply to you, but it's been my experience.

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on October 24, 2011
at 11:35 PM

I agree that you shouldn't fast. Stick to a really big breakfast. You will be more full during the day and ultimately eat less in total. it has worked wonders for me.

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on October 24, 2011
at 06:39 PM

For a person as active as you, it appears you need to eat 1000 plus calories for breakfast to incude 75 grams of proten and the rest good fats like the CO oil. Each tablespoon of CO has 117 calories.

4 to 6 eggs a day cooked in CO, plus a few slices of bacon, plus 4oz of beef pan fried in CO oil, plus perhaps a small yam precooked to soft and then smashed and then panfried in CO oil til just brown will get you through dinner without the cravings. I am 68 6' 2" weight stable at 160 and this is my breakfast almost every morning. I absolutely never think of food til about 4pm. No snacks...ever because my body has told my brain it is satiated. And my brain says OK! No snacks.

I don't eat many vegetables as I have have learned that there really are no essential carbohydrates for humans to do quite well...so I don't.

I do HIIT sprinting 2x per week for 5 min a session and 2x a week heavy lifting to failure for 15 min each session.

My total intake of CO is about 8 tablespoons a day. My total caloric intake averages around 1600 cal..which means about 60% of my calories are coconut oil.

Yes, you need to eat more at breakfast.

You eat like caveman/woman..breakfast early in the AM...and dinner a few hours before sleeping...you will gain muscle without bulking up. Then you will be truly a fat burner.

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on October 24, 2011
at 09:33 PM

Just make sure you're getting adequate protein- 15% of your calories should be protein for satiety- and make sure u get a big hit if those in the morning. I would figure our what your maintenance calories are, calculate your protein, divide by 3 and use that as a starting point. I would personally not go out of my way to gorge on fat- not a lipophobe, it just seems not right in the context of trying to normalize satiety. The fat inherent in the protein source should be enough.

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on October 24, 2011
at 07:54 PM

So you think your 1000+ calorie breakfast would be okay for a little girl like me to eat?

3a567c1637db69f1455ce35e78201a2c

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on October 24, 2011
at 10:08 PM

April, some have difficulty with the large breakfast in the beginning but after a while it becomes easier because this type of eating is satisfying and thus your desire to eat the volume you were accustomed to eating diminishes.

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(10663)

on October 25, 2011
at 05:37 PM

Dextery, you should be proud of me. This morning for breakfast, I had 4.6 oz of beef short ribs cooked in coconut oil, then 3 eggs cooked in the same pan as the beef, 3 chicken sausages, and half an avocado, totaling about 1000 calories! However, two hours later, I still reached for half a cup of macadamia nuts :P BUT I did notice I wasn't AS hungry as I have been before. Cooking the steak filled up my house with smoke and it took a lot longer to eat but it was well worth it! Next time I'll cook the steak the night before as you suggested.

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on October 24, 2011
at 08:47 PM

And you will not need any lunch.

3a567c1637db69f1455ce35e78201a2c

(1054)

on October 24, 2011
at 08:47 PM

You will be surprised by the results. Pressed for time? Hard boiled eggs smashed up, mixed with 4 tablespoons of CO, cut up bacon and steak cooked the previous night. Take out of fridge, pile on plate, microwave and eat. Less than 10 min to microwave and eat and be gone from the house.

3a567c1637db69f1455ce35e78201a2c

(1054)

on October 24, 2011
at 10:05 PM

luckybastard, With that I strongly disagree. I do agree with 15% protein, but that only leaves carbs and fat to eat and carbs are not satisfying to the brain...even so called safe carbs...so feed your brain with the glucose that comes from ketones. And get your energy from saturated fats...animal and coconut oil or ghee.

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on October 24, 2011
at 06:33 PM

Enjoy yourself and don't force it!

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on October 24, 2011
at 05:51 PM

Yes stick with it. You might still be adapting, for some people it takes over a month, which is where you are now. Seems like you are getting in fat, which is a common mistake most people make. That being the case, your body is still probably used to getting regular doses of glucose, so you are still craving these sugars.

Give it a bit more time. In the meantime keep feeding your body good fat and protein. Also try eating more per meal. For example, how many eggs for breakfast are you having?

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on October 24, 2011
at 07:52 PM

I eat 3 eggs every morning. I'll probably add avocados and more veggies and I would add a bit of steak but I'm a full-time college student so I'm pressed for time in the mornings (plus I have to pack lunch as well) so not really sure if I have time to cook/eat it.

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