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is daily IF the last step or should it be implemented earlier?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 08, 2012 at 8:32 AM

this might have been answered before but if a person is dealing with leaky gut should they even attempt IF? or does the direction go like this:

1) completely heal leaky gut no matter how long it takes

2) implement functional resistance training exercise only after step 1 is complete and only to the intensity where the body can recover adequately from the stress of exercise

3) implement IF only after step 2 is a normal part of life (x months?)

please help me clarify, thanks!

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on January 09, 2012
at 10:27 PM

I would disagree there is a "spectrum" of macronutrient fuel burning. Brain likes ketones. Muscles like glycogen. However, I would say if you are gaining fat weight while healing from leaky gut then perhaps there are some basic things you should question in your diet before approaching IF or weight training? I can relate with the impulse to try new things but maybe too early for IF.

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on January 09, 2012
at 10:16 PM

Did you already check out Quilt's leaky gut prescription?jackkruse.com/the-leaky-gut-prescription The RX doesn't make direct reference to IF but there are other posts and many Q/As in the comments of the posts.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on January 09, 2012
at 10:15 PM

Did you already check out Quilt's leaky gut [prescription?](http://jackkruse.com/the-leaky-gut-prescription/) The RX doesn't make direct reference to IF but there are other posts and many Q/As in the comments of the posts.

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on January 09, 2012
at 09:55 PM

thanks, you are re-iterating what i am thinking. i would really like to get some expert advice on this topic & i dont think any of them have covered it clearly.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

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on January 09, 2012
at 09:53 PM

my question is whether or not daily IF is too much of a stress when healing from leaky gut and it's associated symptoms.

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on January 09, 2012
at 09:52 PM

i think there is a spectrum of macronutrient feul burning, i do not think it is an either-or. i can fast for days but i dont feel that's healthy even if it's "ketogenic" because while i may be surviving i am definitely not thriving due to so many known and unknown factors. i was low carb for a while and added in lots more carbs and it helped increase immune function and alleviate depression. does this mean i am a "sugar burner"? nonsense. humans are adaptive animals, we can use sugar and fat as fuel sources and do so differently depending on context.

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on January 08, 2012
at 06:40 PM

thanks, though i'm more concerned with the overall concept that many things are stressors and whether or not my body has the resources to recover from said stressors, even if some of those stressors can be considered healthy in certain contexts.

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on January 08, 2012
at 06:37 PM

i am considering IF because i am gaining fat weight while i am healing from leaky gut and the chronic fatigue symptoms it causes in me.

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on January 08, 2012
at 04:37 PM

If you're considering IF for strength gains, make sure you give this article a read: http://alanaragon.com/an-objective-look-at-intermittent-fasting.html

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Dfada6fe4982ab3b7557172f20632da8

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on January 08, 2012
at 10:51 AM

I don't think there's any particular reason to structure it that way, or indeed to structure it at all. Depending on prior experience, fasting may increase overall stress (although eating freely every day isn't much of a fast) so you want to be mindful of that and not force yourself if it's not working nor be disillusioned. But fasting is part of the body's healing process, and 'attempting' 16 hours without food should not be an ordeal - indeed for many on a suitable diet it's trivial physiologically. If you worry about it it will cause more trouble than actually doing it.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on January 08, 2012
at 06:40 PM

thanks, though i'm more concerned with the overall concept that many things are stressors and whether or not my body has the resources to recover from said stressors, even if some of those stressors can be considered healthy in certain contexts.

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7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on January 09, 2012
at 08:20 PM

I think you can structure it or not...mine is random for the most part. In my opinion, it should be implemented after you are fat burning adapted instead of a blood sugar burner. Otherwise...you will be miserable.

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on January 09, 2012
at 10:27 PM

I would disagree there is a "spectrum" of macronutrient fuel burning. Brain likes ketones. Muscles like glycogen. However, I would say if you are gaining fat weight while healing from leaky gut then perhaps there are some basic things you should question in your diet before approaching IF or weight training? I can relate with the impulse to try new things but maybe too early for IF.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on January 09, 2012
at 09:52 PM

i think there is a spectrum of macronutrient feul burning, i do not think it is an either-or. i can fast for days but i dont feel that's healthy even if it's "ketogenic" because while i may be surviving i am definitely not thriving due to so many known and unknown factors. i was low carb for a while and added in lots more carbs and it helped increase immune function and alleviate depression. does this mean i am a "sugar burner"? nonsense. humans are adaptive animals, we can use sugar and fat as fuel sources and do so differently depending on context.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on January 09, 2012
at 09:53 PM

my question is whether or not daily IF is too much of a stress when healing from leaky gut and it's associated symptoms.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on January 09, 2012
at 05:34 PM

My reaction is similar to AndyM's. I don't think it always works well if you try to "schedule" when you'll start IF. The best approach is to let it develop naturally by eating only when you are physically hungry.

Breaking your fast with a large meal high in protein and fat should avoid physical hunger for a period of hours (it may or may not eliminate cravings and emotional eating.)

As your body gets better at releasing and burning stored fat, you'll be less hungry when you get up and breaking your fast may naturally drift to a later hour. That's the beginning of IF. If, over time, your first urge to eat first shows up at mid-day or in the afternoon that's full-fledged IF.

I think the timeline will/should be different from person to person. If you're working to heal a leaky gut, I'm not sure how that will impact your ability to release and burn stored fat. If it interferes with releasing/burning fat then you need several meals per day to keep the healing process going and IF wouldn't be helpful.

Resistance training should be good for you at almost any step of your healing process and as long as you don't over-do or have problems from it I'd start that whenever you wish.

05055dcbf12c81f1cce777ec365870af

(1791)

on January 09, 2012
at 09:55 PM

thanks, you are re-iterating what i am thinking. i would really like to get some expert advice on this topic & i dont think any of them have covered it clearly.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on January 09, 2012
at 10:16 PM

Did you already check out Quilt's leaky gut prescription?jackkruse.com/the-leaky-gut-prescription The RX doesn't make direct reference to IF but there are other posts and many Q/As in the comments of the posts.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on January 09, 2012
at 10:15 PM

Did you already check out Quilt's leaky gut [prescription?](http://jackkruse.com/the-leaky-gut-prescription/) The RX doesn't make direct reference to IF but there are other posts and many Q/As in the comments of the posts.

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