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Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 24, 2011 at 1:16 PM

The other day folks posted about Red Palm Oil which is a great idea. I was wondering if there are other things folks are doing but perhaps have not posted yet? I would love to hear about them.

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on August 25, 2011
at 01:00 AM

Um... Those look lovely!

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on August 24, 2011
at 09:32 PM

Thank you Elise for your firsthand perspective! Hate to say I told you so on this one...

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on August 24, 2011
at 09:10 PM

I live in Kuala Lumpur, and at least one day a week the sky is haze and we can smell the smoke from forests being burned down over in Indonesia. It's being done to make room for agricultural land, including palm oil plantations. It's visceral reminder of the scale of the destruction.

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on August 24, 2011
at 08:24 PM

I am so jealous...

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on August 24, 2011
at 08:04 PM

A couple years ago I was eating salmon and halibut coated in flour and fried in vegetable oil. Moose? Mostly in spaghetti sauce or sloppy joes. French fries from the garden, rasperries and blueberries all made into jelly. Now, I eat the same foods grilled, baked, raw, boiled, etc... Same food, different delivery=60lbs weight loss, off all meds (gout, hypothyroid, high trigs, hi BP, ho chol). I feel great and live in a great land!

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:39 PM

Grassfed beef is not an ingredient in cosmetics, shampoo, toothpaste, napalm, bio-diesel fuel etc...

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:34 PM

Ever consider the inverse of what you said about American vegetable oil producers having an economic interest in palm oil not succeeding? Doesn't seem too far of a stretch that MAYBE, just MAYBE someone who touts red palm oil as a "miracle," also has a vested interest in palm oil? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRPmqNPHALs&feature=related

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:32 PM

Re: coconut wraps - do you make them, or buy them? (googled; found a few different brands/ recipes). Do you think they would hold up to frying to make tortilla chips? Thanks!

E639bc85fd42430285596434a6515ad5

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:28 PM

Do you avoid buying grass-fed beef for the same reason, Futureboy? That it will support the demand for factory-farmed beef?

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:17 PM

Sweet potato fries with homemade fritessaus here we come!

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:15 PM

The problem with buying palm oil from a "reputable source," is that it still supports the demand for palm oil, and that means that there will always be other people who want it, but at cheaper prices, sustaining the "less reputable" sources as well.

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:14 PM

Try watching this without becoming concerned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRPmqNPHALs&feature=related

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:14 PM

It's the only one that I've found that's both BPA-free and 100% coconut, what's Go Tan?

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:11 PM

Yep...that looks pretty clean to me...

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:08 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4gPGX58CQI

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:07 PM

Aroy-D the green one ? What do you thing about the taste ? I feel it's WAY inferior to my Go Tan.

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:01 PM

Futureboy- the stuff on the top of broth is already rendered. Rendering is just melting it and removing any bits of skin or tissue, which simmering to make broth does. Not sure how long you can store it, I put some in a ziplock in the freezer, I'll let you know. Usually it's gone pretty fast in our house, though.

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:51 PM

We also get rendered lard from our farmer - awesomesauce.

F3e312545761ab663e37e6c2d5c831ea

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:51 PM

Just buy from a reputable source, Tropical Traditions has lots of info about this on their site

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:49 PM

The land that is used for palm cultivation is utilized to the fullest with the least harmful effect on the environment. Wildlife is allowed to roam in and out of the farms unhindered. You don't see this on farms that grow soybeans, corn, or peanuts. ... Soybeans require vast acreages of fenced off land. In addition, thousands of tons of pesticides are sprayed on soybean and other oil crops, causing untold damage to the environment, not to mention your health. Palm plantations generally do not use pesticides. (End quote.)

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:46 PM

Palm oil cultivation is more environmentally friendly than any other seed oil crop in the world. It uses only a fraction of the land area required by other oil crops, thus preserving forests and protecting the environment. Acre for acre, oil palm far outproduces all other vegetable oil crops. For example, soybeans require 13 acres of land to produce the same amount of oil that palm can produce on just one acre. Corn requires 35 acres for the same amount. ...

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:44 PM

Wow, Im jealous of your diet. That's amazing.

E639bc85fd42430285596434a6515ad5

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:43 PM

The problem with this argument is that it is completely untrue. Again CSPI is deceiving the public. These countries have environmental and conservation laws in place now that protect endangered species and strictly limit clearing of jungle land. In Malaysia, for instance, the vast majority of the land used for palm cultivation over the last 20 years has come from preexisting rubber, cocoa, and coconut farms, or from logged-over forests in areas zoned for agriculture. Areas with endangered species are strictly off limits.

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:43 PM

(Begin quote.) In an effort to sway public opinion against the palm oil industry, [the CSPI] began taking out full page ads in newspapers, such as the New York Times, claiming that these companies were destroying rainforests in Malaysia and Indonesia to make room for palm plantations. In clearing the jungles, the natural habitat of endangered species such as the orangutan were in eminent danger.

E639bc85fd42430285596434a6515ad5

(2226)

on August 24, 2011
at 05:41 PM

Wildlife is allowed to roam in and out of the farms unhindered. You don't see this on farms that grow soybeans, corn, or peanuts. ... Soybeans require vast acreages of fenced off land. In addition, thousands of tons of pesticides are sprayed on soybean and other oil crops, causing untold damage to the environment, not to mention your health. Palm plantations generally do not use pesticides. (End quote.)

E639bc85fd42430285596434a6515ad5

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:41 PM

off limits. ... Palm oil cultivation is more environmentally friendly than any other seed oil crop in the world. It uses only a fraction of the land area required by other oil crops, thus preserving forests and protecting the environment. Acre for acre, oil palm far outproduces all other vegetable oil crops. For example, soybeans require 13 acres of land to produce the same amount of oil that palm can produce on just one acre. Corn requires 35 acres for the same amount. ... The land that is used for palm cultivation is utilized to the fullest with the least harmful effect on the environment

E639bc85fd42430285596434a6515ad5

(2226)

on August 24, 2011
at 05:40 PM

In an effort to sway public opinion against the palm oil industry, [the CSPI] began taking out full page ads in newspapers, such as the New York Times, claiming that these companies were destroying rainforests in Malaysia and Indonesia to make room for palm plantations. In clearing the jungles, the natural habitat of endangered species such as the orangutan were in eminent danger. The problem with this argument is that it is completely untrue. Again CSPI is deceiving the public. These countries have environmental and conservation laws in place now that protect endangered species and strictly.

E639bc85fd42430285596434a6515ad5

(2226)

on August 24, 2011
at 05:40 PM

The following quote is from Bruce Fife, in The Palm Oil Miracle. After describing the propaganda campaign by American vegetable oil producers to denigrate the healthfulness of palm oil, he continues:

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:24 PM

Good to know! Thank You!

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:20 PM

And Alaska sounds AMAZING in the summertime. Moose meat and wild salmon? Sign me up!!

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:19 PM

Oooof, yeah...best to stay away from that stuff!

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:18 PM

I've been wondering about the fat I skim off my broth!! Do you have to render it at all? How long can you store it?

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:17 PM

Yeah I'd be wary of ANY palm kernel oil, as the plantations are generally in ecologically sensitive areas, and are responsible for the wholesale slaughter of Orangutans, not to mention the destruction of habitat and bio-diversity in jungles in SE Asia.

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on August 24, 2011
at 04:25 PM

tanka hot dogs ftw. so convenient and delicious.

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on August 24, 2011
at 04:10 PM

I get mine at Vitamin Cottage in the frozen section but if you go to www.tankabar.com they have a store locator function. I would call first and make sure they have the dogs and not just their tanka bars. I haven't tried those.

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on August 24, 2011
at 03:26 PM

Where do you get these?

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on August 24, 2011
at 03:10 PM

palm oil is cutting down the forest of hunter-gatherer tribe and orang utans

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on August 24, 2011
at 02:44 PM

great QQQ???!!!

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on August 24, 2011
at 01:40 PM

I bought some red palm oil a few months ago but never figured out how to make the best use of it. I cooked some chicken in it, but the taste didn't really grab me.

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2c8c421cf0e0c462654c7dc37f8b9711

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on August 24, 2011
at 02:14 PM

Buying marrow bones from our local farmer. They sell them for nothing as dog bones or soup bones. I roast them in the oven for a bit and scoop out the marrow (mmmmm), then simmer them for several days to make great stock and then when it cools, there is an inch of two of beautiful, tasty tallow on top. Marrow, broth, and tallow for pennies.

Also been making fermented salsa with local heirloom tomatoes...sooooo good.

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:51 PM

We also get rendered lard from our farmer - awesomesauce.

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(5639)

on August 24, 2011
at 06:17 PM

Sweet potato fries with homemade fritessaus here we come!

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(5639)

on August 24, 2011
at 05:18 PM

I've been wondering about the fat I skim off my broth!! Do you have to render it at all? How long can you store it?

2c8c421cf0e0c462654c7dc37f8b9711

(2729)

on August 24, 2011
at 06:01 PM

Futureboy- the stuff on the top of broth is already rendered. Rendering is just melting it and removing any bits of skin or tissue, which simmering to make broth does. Not sure how long you can store it, I put some in a ziplock in the freezer, I'll let you know. Usually it's gone pretty fast in our house, though.

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:58 PM

  • SeaSnax
  • Palm Shortening
  • Palm Sugar
  • Palm Vinegar (asian food market for cheap)
  • Aroy-D 100% coconut milk, bpa and guar gum free in a box
  • coconut wraps (like wheat tortillas but 100% coconut)
  • probiotic coconut milk yogurt
  • bubbies sauerkraut, pickles and relish

Stuff from our farmer: bones, lard,
hot dogs (organ meat!), bacon,
sausage Venison - ask your butcher,
it's the perfect time of year and
they sell them for CHEAP - they'll
grind it with pork fat if you ask (we got a whole deer for $95)

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:07 PM

Aroy-D the green one ? What do you thing about the taste ? I feel it's WAY inferior to my Go Tan.

F3e312545761ab663e37e6c2d5c831ea

(1049)

on August 24, 2011
at 06:14 PM

It's the only one that I've found that's both BPA-free and 100% coconut, what's Go Tan?

91fe5b7e10068df9f147ee84320e38f7

(614)

on August 24, 2011
at 06:32 PM

Re: coconut wraps - do you make them, or buy them? (googled; found a few different brands/ recipes). Do you think they would hold up to frying to make tortilla chips? Thanks!

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on August 24, 2011
at 02:16 PM

I paid an absurd amount of money yesterday for a small package of these coconut-sweetened cacao truffles: http://www.ulimana.com/Coconut-Nectar-raw-chocolate-truffles.php...and it was pretty much worth it!

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on August 25, 2011
at 01:00 AM

Um... Those look lovely!

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on August 24, 2011
at 01:56 PM

Tanka buffalo hot dogs with sauerkraut. Very delicious.

06325b762f78a2b8aaa977161cca4a1f

(539)

on August 24, 2011
at 04:25 PM

tanka hot dogs ftw. so convenient and delicious.

A41d66866633b04c1d34a54758aea01f

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on August 24, 2011
at 03:26 PM

Where do you get these?

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on August 24, 2011
at 04:10 PM

I get mine at Vitamin Cottage in the frozen section but if you go to www.tankabar.com they have a store locator function. I would call first and make sure they have the dogs and not just their tanka bars. I haven't tried those.

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E639bc85fd42430285596434a6515ad5

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:26 PM

I second the red palm oil nomination. I take a spoonful of oil per day, and palm oil is in my rotation along with coconut oil and fermented cod liver oil. Some other foods I try to eat at least once every few days: azomite clay (geophagy is paleo; great source of minerals), bee pollen, seaweed, and Swedish bitters.

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on August 24, 2011
at 06:34 PM

Ever consider the inverse of what you said about American vegetable oil producers having an economic interest in palm oil not succeeding? Doesn't seem too far of a stretch that MAYBE, just MAYBE someone who touts red palm oil as a "miracle," also has a vested interest in palm oil? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRPmqNPHALs&feature=related

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:03 PM

My latest paleo discovery is that sugar-free stuff is not an acceptable cheat. I eat pretty close to 100% paleo by standard definition, raise my own chickens, eat mostly moose meat and wild salmon, have a huge garden full of fresh veggies, wild berries all around me. This summer I started sneaking a sugar-free popsicle and a piece or two of these tiny little Werther's coffee flavored sug-free hard candies. I've also noticed this summer painful bloating and looooong farts in the morning. I thought it was the brocolli or cucumbers--nope, it was the sugar alcohols in the sugar free crap.

B22e5946e28a1845a6006737e59edfc6

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on August 24, 2011
at 05:44 PM

Wow, Im jealous of your diet. That's amazing.

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(5639)

on August 24, 2011
at 05:20 PM

And Alaska sounds AMAZING in the summertime. Moose meat and wild salmon? Sign me up!!

61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

(3175)

on August 24, 2011
at 08:04 PM

A couple years ago I was eating salmon and halibut coated in flour and fried in vegetable oil. Moose? Mostly in spaghetti sauce or sloppy joes. French fries from the garden, rasperries and blueberries all made into jelly. Now, I eat the same foods grilled, baked, raw, boiled, etc... Same food, different delivery=60lbs weight loss, off all meds (gout, hypothyroid, high trigs, hi BP, ho chol). I feel great and live in a great land!

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(5639)

on August 24, 2011
at 05:19 PM

Oooof, yeah...best to stay away from that stuff!

Ccdf3fbcaec76e025ff94d03cc4daf9a

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on August 24, 2011
at 08:24 PM

I am so jealous...

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