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Hack my rye bread as quick lunch

Commented on February 14, 2014
Created February 12, 2014 at 12:55 PM

Hi, I have a tough time finding the time to prepare food for my lunch, I am both a student and I have my own small business on the side, so time is not my biggest resource.

Anyways, I usually start the day with some greek yoghurt with some muesli, dried berries, nuts and a little bit of honey.

At lunch, if I don't have nice leftovers, I usually make a couple of pieces of rye bread with different kinds of lay ons. Usually I also eat an avocado, an egg and some cucumber or what else lays around.

Who has some nice alternatives for the rye bread? Or how do you guys prepare it?

All the best

Eb87941a669017dfb288d296cc672130

on February 14, 2014
at 05:39 PM

Good alternatives to the muesli would be adding berries and nuts to your yogurt (i.e. muesli without the oats). Good alternatives to a sandwich on rye would be dumping the insides into a bowl and eating with a fork (i.e. a salad). Or as someone else mentioned you could get just use two pieces of lettuce in place of the bread but i've found that makes for messy eating most of the time.

86c97b2779feab3c330f5e1c5fea7e25

(2312)

on February 14, 2014
at 04:11 PM

@caveman jones Yes if you have time to make your own that's the best way for most Paleo foods...maybe save me a few slices?? If you are ever in a rush, I would say try the organic sprouted bread. They sell some awesome ones at Trader Joe's...might even be popping up in Safeway, etc now.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on February 14, 2014
at 04:00 PM

Why don't you pre-boil a dozen eggs and place them in your fridge, that way you can grab a couple of them for breakfast each day throughout the week? Its quite easy. Canned fish are also as easy as open the can and eat. Fruit are fast and require little preparation, just bite into them. Leftover dinner is fine as well. Nuts and nut butters are good too, since you can grab a handful or spoonful and you're set. Microwave scrambled eggs take a minute or two and are just as good as pan fried eggs, plus no mess or frying involved. Pre-cooked sausage patties? Tuna packets? There are many options

7bb2c72334654978970a7a4563b6c460

on February 14, 2014
at 03:35 PM

I need to think about the yoghurt as well. but you are right, the muesli/rye should go. I am still looking for a great alternative.

7bb2c72334654978970a7a4563b6c460

on February 14, 2014
at 03:34 PM

I actually think the solution to this is making paleo 'bread' myself. Its not very much more complicated than baking nice traditional bread. Still looking for a good recipe though. :)

7bb2c72334654978970a7a4563b6c460

on February 14, 2014
at 03:32 PM

I can see i might want to change my breakfast as well. But this is the difficult point I was making. preparing foods take a looooong time. Why are all the nice and easy solutions also the bad ones.

I am looking for a good paleo 'bread' recipe to still make it easy. Paleo breakfast is annoying.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on February 14, 2014
at 02:03 AM

Honey is anti-microbial? So how does that make it healthy unless you have a parasitic infection? I wash my hands, cook my food and shower so I don't need an anti-microbial thank you. Specially not one that leads to fatty liver. Since when does something being anti-microbial automatically make it healthy? Do you prefer to eat chicken pumped with antibiotics? Because antibiotics are anti-microbial, so they must be good right?? Wrong. Natural anti-microbes that are healthy+Paleo would be garlic, onion, cloves, and other spices. There's plenty of healthier Paleo ones to go around.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on February 14, 2014
at 01:59 AM

It does have hormones, naturally-occurring hormones meant to aid the kid in growth and development. You have no way of knowing if they have "any bad health impact" unless you are measuring your IGF-1 levels, estrogen levels, etc. I'm not saying to cut out dairy because it is not Paleo, I said "most importantly because it is not healthy". Broccoli is not from the paleolithic era but it is a vegetable and it is Paleo; the Paleo diet doesn't say "eat Paleolithic-era foods from 10,000 B.C." it says eat meats, veggies, fruits, good fats and nuts. And explicitly says no milk.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on February 14, 2014
at 01:52 AM

My dairy is fermented goat dairy, without hormones (home-made kefir). I find kefir and cheese, and real yogurt to not have any bad health impact, as long as the person is not lactose or casein intolerant. I don't eat lactose either (only traces). I have no problems with it. But cutting out all dairy because "it's not paleo" is not a good reason. Broccoli is not paleo either, it didn't exist in paleo times. As for honey, it DOES have good health features, it's antimicrobial and helps with allergies. No problems for me with small quantities of raw honey.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on February 14, 2014
at 01:45 AM

Whether dairy is inflammatory or not is not being discussed, I never said anything about inflammation and I never said I did bad on it, I do just fine. The reason I don't eat it (with the exception of clarified butter, which is essentially just fat which helps on a keto diet) is because it is not Paleo but most importantly because it is not healthy. Unless you think the "all natural" bovine hormones in it are healthy too (well if you're a growing cow or a growing cancer cell, then yes).

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on February 14, 2014
at 01:42 AM

Nevertheless, it still doesn't make honey healthy in any way shape or form. Notice I didn't say it was not Paleo in my earlier comment, I said it was sugar. Natural, but sugar nevertheless. Tell yourself it was made by cute little bees all you want, your body treats it exactly the same way as any other sugary syrup, like say....high fructose corn syrup. Natural is not the same as healthy, if natural was healthy, then the "all-natural" cyanide in cassava wouldn't be poisonous, but guess what....it is. Sugar in honey is "all-natural" and guess what...it's still sugar.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on February 14, 2014
at 01:38 AM

You downvoted my reply simply because I pointed something out. I'm sure the Hazda can eat honey and not get fat, but then again they don't have cars, air conditioning, television, fast food restaurants, soda, ice cream, and the internet. So if you are going to eat honey and say "this will make me skinny because some tribe in Africa eats it" is ridiculous because those people likely do 10 times as much physical activity and eat half of what people in industrialized societies eat. Also, they go through famines and droughts, and disease. So yes they eat honey, and anything else they can find.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on February 14, 2014
at 12:02 AM

Raw honey is Paleo, the Hadza people eat it A LOT and they don't get fat. Also, no reason to vote down my other reply when I believe that my reply to the OP was pretty acceptable in these circles. Just because you don't do dairy it doesn't mean that it's inflammatory for the rest of us. The problem in the OP's diet is the rye/muesli, nothing else.

Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on February 13, 2014
at 09:36 PM

Dairy is not paleo, let's not fool ourselves. You might like it and be unable to give it up because it is delicious, and that is an entirely different matter, but Paleo it is not. And it doesn't matter which guru says what, Robb Wolf eats tacos every now and then but it doesn't make them Paleo either. Paleo is not about which guru eats what, it's about no grains/sugar/dairy period. Paleo clearly says no dairy. Call it Primal or WAPF, whatever, just not paleo. Honey, while technically Paleo, is simply an excuse for people to eat sugar and feel good about themselves while doing so.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on February 13, 2014
at 09:39 AM

Raw honey is 100% Paleo. The Hadza love their raw honey (but it's gotta be raw). Yogurt is fine too if the person is not intolerant. Robb Wolf now eats fermented dairy too, for example, no matter what he wrote in his book against it a few years back. The only thing against this person's diet is the rye/muesli.

2c612e3bf373ce2fca02eb2652e8b632

(0)

on February 13, 2014
at 08:47 AM

Very well said my friend.

7bb2c72334654978970a7a4563b6c460

on February 12, 2014
at 04:24 PM

It might actually be a very nice idea to bake my own paleo bread. I will have to look for a nice recipe for that. Thanks!

7bb2c72334654978970a7a4563b6c460

on February 12, 2014
at 04:15 PM

You are absolutely right. My problem with paleo is the time consuming element of it. There is no easy way around it, as far as I see. Thats the reason for sharing. As far as snacks, its easy and very delicious to follow paleo. When it comes to dinner, its a no-brainer. I did cut grains from my diet before, but then i had time to focus on it. I was hoping do meet people with a grab-a-sandwich-but-its-paleo solution :)

The yoghurt is dairy, but its also delicious, has probiotics, nice amount of protein and fat. The honey.. I just get pretty pictures of cave men hunting bees as well ;)

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3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on February 13, 2014
at 09:40 AM

Honey is ok if it's raw, and real full-fat yogurt is ok too if you're not dairy intolerant. But the rye and muesli have to go.

7bb2c72334654978970a7a4563b6c460

on February 14, 2014
at 03:35 PM

I need to think about the yoghurt as well. but you are right, the muesli/rye should go. I am still looking for a great alternative.

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86c97b2779feab3c330f5e1c5fea7e25

(2312)

on February 12, 2014
at 05:39 PM

You can try sprouted bread as well...not Paleo but mostly regarded as healthy if you buy the right kind. WAPF diet talks more about sprouted grains as well.

Sometimes 100% Paleo isn't for everyone. I used to be 100% strict and now I more use it as a guideline...if I want bread, I got for sprouted. If I want sugar, I use honey. The main point is to be healthy and have a sustainable diet for your life.

2c612e3bf373ce2fca02eb2652e8b632

(0)

on February 13, 2014
at 08:47 AM

Very well said my friend.

7bb2c72334654978970a7a4563b6c460

on February 14, 2014
at 03:34 PM

I actually think the solution to this is making paleo 'bread' myself. Its not very much more complicated than baking nice traditional bread. Still looking for a good recipe though. :)

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Be157308a0438e382b88d9db4c12ab30

on February 12, 2014
at 03:08 PM

I hate to say this but your diet is far from paleo, you have grains (rye and muesli), dairy (yogurt) and sugar (honey). Which are pretty much the main things to be eliminated when eating paleo. I suggest replacing the grains with something like smoked herring (canned), sardines (also canned), sausage, eggs, or some vegetables and replacing your yogurt and honey with some fruit instead; that's if you absolutely must have something sweet. Avocados are great as are olives (black olives make awesome snacks). Think outside the box, it can be easy and convenient, just be creative..

7bb2c72334654978970a7a4563b6c460

on February 12, 2014
at 04:15 PM

You are absolutely right. My problem with paleo is the time consuming element of it. There is no easy way around it, as far as I see. Thats the reason for sharing. As far as snacks, its easy and very delicious to follow paleo. When it comes to dinner, its a no-brainer. I did cut grains from my diet before, but then i had time to focus on it. I was hoping do meet people with a grab-a-sandwich-but-its-paleo solution :)

The yoghurt is dairy, but its also delicious, has probiotics, nice amount of protein and fat. The honey.. I just get pretty pictures of cave men hunting bees as well ;)

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on February 13, 2014
at 09:39 AM

Raw honey is 100% Paleo. The Hadza love their raw honey (but it's gotta be raw). Yogurt is fine too if the person is not intolerant. Robb Wolf now eats fermented dairy too, for example, no matter what he wrote in his book against it a few years back. The only thing against this person's diet is the rye/muesli.

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on February 12, 2014
at 01:12 PM

I would suggest using lettuce leaves as your "bread" and eliminate the rye bread completely. If you want good recipes for a good non-grain bread look at "satisfying eats" blog or facebook. New to the blog so just answering my first ...

7bb2c72334654978970a7a4563b6c460

on February 12, 2014
at 04:24 PM

It might actually be a very nice idea to bake my own paleo bread. I will have to look for a nice recipe for that. Thanks!

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