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who's seen ice age murder mystery on Nova?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 30, 2011 at 4:50 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4MLv5vLsjY&feature=related

This is a really cool documentary about a frozen body (Otzi) that was found perfectly preserved for 5000 years. Tattoos and all, which changed the timeline of what we know about when the early tools were developed.

Interestingly enough he had some grains in his stomach. They say he had lime disease from DNA evidence and swelling in his joints. He was found to be lactose intolerant, and even crazier is that they found markers for heart disease!

Weirdly they didn't make the grain connection!

Has anyone like Cordain/Eatin/Lindberg postulated on this?

edit: I think it was iceman murder not ice age. my bad

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on October 31, 2011
at 01:43 PM

Egypt was famous for grains - why do you think the Roman Empire was so interested in Egypt??!!

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on October 30, 2011
at 06:18 PM

Honestly, he's my favorite go-to guy for whenever someone gives me a lecture on "kids today and their tattoos"... as if the 30-somethings and younger invented tattoos.. c'mon now.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 30, 2011
at 03:35 PM

Yes, they look sick to me: http://goo.gl/UsKfJ

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 30, 2011
at 03:32 PM

Honey was supplied from the table of the king with bread of oblations for the king, beer likewise, meat, fat-meat, vegetables, various fruit, honey, cakes, wine, oil. My necessities were apportioned in life and health, as his majesty himself said, for love of me. -- So it looks like it was disease of rich bastards. Easy to check I guess.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 30, 2011
at 03:32 PM

I would say pretty unhealthy diet: was supplied from the table of the king with bread of oblations for the king, beer likewise, meat, fat-meat, vegetables, various fruit, honey, cakes, wine, oil. My necessities were apportioned in life and health, as his majesty himself said, for love of me.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 30, 2011
at 03:30 PM

Honey was definitely an issue. Tones of honey: http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/timelines/topics/beekeeping.htm#honey. Good old fructose...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 30, 2011
at 03:29 PM

Its more probable he died from grains. Arrow was just coincidental. :P

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on October 30, 2011
at 03:06 PM

it was prostate cancer: http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2011/10/mummy-has-oldest-case-of-prostat.html

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on October 30, 2011
at 02:53 PM

alcohol could be an issue

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on October 30, 2011
at 02:49 PM

lol, technically it was the copper age?

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on October 30, 2011
at 02:49 PM

but they ate a lot of wheat right?

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on October 30, 2011
at 02:45 PM

He also had terrible teeth

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on October 30, 2011
at 10:43 AM

He also suffered from being shot in the back with an arrow syndrome :)

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on October 30, 2011
at 10:28 AM

He also suffered from being shot in the back with a arrow syndrome :)

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on October 30, 2011
at 10:26 AM

Documentary name fail - Otzi did not live in the ice age.

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on October 30, 2011
at 05:32 AM

I was just about to mention the atherosclerosis in Egyptian mummies. And they don't think that it was wheat either. It's like it's not PC to suggest that wheat could have anything to do with it.

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66974b2cb291799dcd661b7dec99a9e2

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on October 30, 2011
at 05:22 AM

I recently read that ancient Egyptians may have had a fairly high incidence of colon cancer, will see if I can dig up that article and link it.

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on October 30, 2011
at 02:49 PM

but they ate a lot of wheat right?

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on October 30, 2011
at 02:53 PM

alcohol could be an issue

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 30, 2011
at 03:30 PM

Honey was definitely an issue. Tones of honey: http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/timelines/topics/beekeeping.htm#honey. Good old fructose...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 30, 2011
at 03:32 PM

Honey was supplied from the table of the king with bread of oblations for the king, beer likewise, meat, fat-meat, vegetables, various fruit, honey, cakes, wine, oil. My necessities were apportioned in life and health, as his majesty himself said, for love of me. -- So it looks like it was disease of rich bastards. Easy to check I guess.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 30, 2011
at 03:32 PM

I would say pretty unhealthy diet: was supplied from the table of the king with bread of oblations for the king, beer likewise, meat, fat-meat, vegetables, various fruit, honey, cakes, wine, oil. My necessities were apportioned in life and health, as his majesty himself said, for love of me.

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on October 30, 2011
at 05:32 AM

I was just about to mention the atherosclerosis in Egyptian mummies. And they don't think that it was wheat either. It's like it's not PC to suggest that wheat could have anything to do with it.

E34fbfa1bca9ae970c9c7313bf9de9f8

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on October 30, 2011
at 03:06 PM

it was prostate cancer: http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2011/10/mummy-has-oldest-case-of-prostat.html

8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

(6244)

on October 31, 2011
at 01:43 PM

Egypt was famous for grains - why do you think the Roman Empire was so interested in Egypt??!!

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9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on October 30, 2011
at 02:46 PM

His teeth were also all messed up. On a heritage grain all natural diet :) That plus the Egyptian mummies makes me pretty skeptical of traditional agrarian diets, particularly those with grains.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 30, 2011
at 03:35 PM

Yes, they look sick to me: http://goo.gl/UsKfJ

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8508fec4bae4a580d1e1b807058fee8e

on October 31, 2011
at 01:44 PM

National Geographic the November 2011 edition writes there was wheat found in his belly! His last meal was wheat and red meat. He also might have had arthritis.

Another article on wheat in his belly http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3146069.stm

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 30, 2011
at 03:34 PM

Yes, they look sick to me: http://goo.gl/UsKfJ

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