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Who here has reached poo nirvana? How?

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Created June 22, 2012 at 2:57 PM

I'm looking to become a pooing champion. I need someone to show me how. So, if anyone has had IBS like symptoms and found a way to have regular healthy poo please share.

Who here has reached poo nirvana?

Bdc6244bdbd664d2168a8e326018ffbe

(431)

on September 07, 2012
at 02:08 PM

Sorry, that was a lot, but the last couple of months of IBS-like things were some of the worst ever, so I'm unbelievably excited about being so healthy again!

Bdc6244bdbd664d2168a8e326018ffbe

(431)

on September 07, 2012
at 02:07 PM

In order, I started glutamine, while eating essentially only meat for weeks until probiotics and gelatin came to me in the mail- helped a bit. Then I started taking probiotics- helped a lot, started phasing in fruit, then other foods. I can't tell whether gelatin or just continued probiotic use made me continue to heal- within about two weeks, though, my skin is now nearly perfect and I have been able to digest everything I've eaten (although I haven't tried a couple of things yet- cocoa, coconut, eating lots of veggies).

Bdc6244bdbd664d2168a8e326018ffbe

(431)

on September 07, 2012
at 02:04 PM

About the fruits- I don't know, because I eat all of them (except I haven't been eating tropical fruits). All seem fine- I started out with citrus, thinking they're the most innocuous, but dates, berries, apples, everything thus far has been good. Very not paleo conventional wisdom, no? Gelatin-wise- I tried the broth for weeks, but despite having a slow cooker the gelatin content was always pretty hit or miss, and was not as effective as just Great Lakes kosher gelatin. Or maybe its a quantity thing- its easier for me to get lots when taking it straight.

5249df0c1098a8ea4607cc305f0cbdcf

(864)

on September 06, 2012
at 08:08 PM

Any fruits in particular? Did you get GF gelatin from bone broth or can you buy straight GF gelatin somewhere?

Bdc6244bdbd664d2168a8e326018ffbe

(431)

on September 06, 2012
at 05:27 PM

Oh, and I started eating fruit again (which I had totally cut out, thinking it wasn't helping-along with vegetables) at the same time, and that may have played quite a role.

Da681d976130df15aac3984013aaad6d

(720)

on July 02, 2012
at 05:23 PM

ha thanks...I'm a big fan of this illustrator.... http://www.nataliedee.com/ and re: poo nirvana...yes let's find it! I've found the only thing that has ever helped (slightly) is chia seeds.

5249df0c1098a8ea4607cc305f0cbdcf

(864)

on July 02, 2012
at 02:45 AM

Let us find an answer Lauren. BTW, your avatar rocks.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on June 28, 2012
at 03:23 PM

It's relaxing, so can help with sleep & personally I find that it helps to have an early morning poo, so I am done for the rest of the day!

5249df0c1098a8ea4607cc305f0cbdcf

(864)

on June 28, 2012
at 03:03 PM

Thanks Dragonfly. Is there a reasoning behind taking the Magnesium Citrate at night vs during the day? (Currently, I'm taking it around lunchtime.)

5249df0c1098a8ea4607cc305f0cbdcf

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on June 27, 2012
at 06:18 PM

You mean 25% protein right?

Da681d976130df15aac3984013aaad6d

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on June 27, 2012
at 05:14 PM

Squatty potties seem like a waste of money. I've been propping my legs up on the bathroom trashcan for years, seems to help with elimination, I assume it's basically the same concept.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on June 27, 2012
at 12:04 AM

It's not a proper PH poo question without pictures. :P

121a16aded2bed8dca492d3c9662ef4c

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on June 23, 2012
at 01:57 PM

Squatting is the best way to go! That said, squatting on a standard toilet seat is a tad risky (um... ever had one slip out from underneath you?) The "squatty potty" looks like a nice way to go, because it's so compact, but I think I'd be more partial to a platform like this one (http://www.naturesplatform.com) for the full squat experience! Now, if you'll excuse me, I think I'm gonna go crunch one out ;)

7d3a7b532811b6cfa2de09acdf52d145

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on June 23, 2012
at 12:09 PM

Oh yeah, my main use for magnesium is sleep & muscle-rest, cause I'm always very tensed (even after meditating) and do a lot of sports; it makes my nights so much more relaxed and my days too; the effects on my stool were just side-effects.

7d3a7b532811b6cfa2de09acdf52d145

(610)

on June 23, 2012
at 12:06 PM

I'm with the magnesium citrate too, I took around 400mg for 3 weeks, and it all became very regular (I woke up, did 10 steps and felt the need to go to the toilet). Also, it came out nice & clean, almost without the need for toilet paper. Also less smell in some way :) I now use magnesium glycinate, which works a bit less on regularity or cleanliness.. Maybe if I'm out of magnesium glycinate, I will return to citrate, I had so much fun on toilets then :D

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on June 23, 2012
at 07:48 AM

Uh...too much information, people.

03a4ec34751186201a56da298ac843ce

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on June 22, 2012
at 10:45 PM

Squatty potty? Bah! Go paleo! Go outside, squat down and poo! Don't forget to bring TP with you.

F9638b939a6f85d67f60065677193cad

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on June 22, 2012
at 06:50 PM

Everybody is mentioning squatty potties, but what about the information on the gutsense website about intestinal bacteria? This isn't an answer, it's actually my own question. I need help with this, too, and wonder if the gutsense guy has it right that the answer is gut bacteria in capsule form.

Bbb65dfde2b925e334048eb6438b3950

on June 22, 2012
at 04:58 PM

I read about the squatty potty in a post here on PH and told my mom about it. I told her that humans were meant to squat. Then she said: "Oh, so that´s why there were shoeprints on the toilet seats in public restrooms after foreigners used them". She was refering to when we lived in a comunity with a lot of refugees. Ever since I have done my business squatting on the toilet seat and it has made my troubles disappear. I highly recommend it. It has also totally altered how I bend down to pick up things.

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

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on June 22, 2012
at 04:02 PM

I made my own squatty potty with 2x4's, but wouldn't mind getting a real one someday.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on June 22, 2012
at 03:35 PM

The difference is like night & day! My toilet paper bill has gone down considerably.

A2e73b869061fc20067e4ef8f26f83f0

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on June 22, 2012
at 03:28 PM

The squatty potty is so interesting to me. It doesn't surprise me that it works well. I have a friend who claims to always like to use the handicap stall because the toilet is higher. This surprised me because I hate using toilets that are too high and my legs can't bend well (I'm pretty short).

5249df0c1098a8ea4607cc305f0cbdcf

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on June 22, 2012
at 03:27 PM

greymouser- Consistency mostly, but I guess that will have something to do with frequency as well?

A2e73b869061fc20067e4ef8f26f83f0

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on June 22, 2012
at 03:25 PM

Not me, unfortunately. My husband is a champ--3x/day! But, besides eating what I cook at home, he certainly doesn't pay much attention to his diet so he can't exactly help you.

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on June 22, 2012
at 03:04 PM

Are we talking frequency, consistency, or both?

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59fa7cd87fb9d669adf21e5cf3e7ada5

on June 22, 2012
at 09:41 PM

Gotta love a poop question!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on June 27, 2012
at 12:04 AM

It's not a proper PH poo question without pictures. :P

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D3182c5229b4d58debc01ad59f01c794

(30)

on June 22, 2012
at 04:33 PM

I reached poo nirvana after experimenting with my magnesium/calcium balance. Since taking 400mg of magnesium oxide every morning, I have fast, effortless poops. I am currently doing a weight gain program, so I am drinking half a gallon of raw milk every day, so I'm doubling my intake of magnesium b/c of the dramatically increased calcium intake and that seems to work pretty well. For more info on mineral balance And poo nirvana, check out the book called "The Fiber Menace."

BTW this is meant to be a temporary solution for me until my gut gets settled. Been a long process for me! I'm getting more into bone broths and fermented foods as mentioned above, so I'm sure that eventually my diet will take care of everything and I can stop supplementing magnesium.

I second the squatty potty! I used one of those while staying on a permaculture homestead in Hawaii. They ROCK.

Good luck!

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on June 22, 2012
at 03:25 PM

This is what works for me! Clean, fast & easy poos 99% of the time now.

Get one of these: http://squattypotty.com/

Avoid FODMAPS if they give you any distress.

NO gluten cheats ever! (or at least not until your gut is fully healed.)

Fermented foods like kefir, kombucha, sauerkraut weekly.

Bone broth and/or gelatin weekly.

ETA: Magnesium Citrate 200 gm nightly to avoid constipation.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on June 22, 2012
at 03:35 PM

The difference is like night & day! My toilet paper bill has gone down considerably.

246ebf68e35743f62e5e187891b9cba0

(21430)

on June 22, 2012
at 04:02 PM

I made my own squatty potty with 2x4's, but wouldn't mind getting a real one someday.

A2e73b869061fc20067e4ef8f26f83f0

(140)

on June 22, 2012
at 03:28 PM

The squatty potty is so interesting to me. It doesn't surprise me that it works well. I have a friend who claims to always like to use the handicap stall because the toilet is higher. This surprised me because I hate using toilets that are too high and my legs can't bend well (I'm pretty short).

Bbb65dfde2b925e334048eb6438b3950

on June 22, 2012
at 04:58 PM

I read about the squatty potty in a post here on PH and told my mom about it. I told her that humans were meant to squat. Then she said: "Oh, so that´s why there were shoeprints on the toilet seats in public restrooms after foreigners used them". She was refering to when we lived in a comunity with a lot of refugees. Ever since I have done my business squatting on the toilet seat and it has made my troubles disappear. I highly recommend it. It has also totally altered how I bend down to pick up things.

7d3a7b532811b6cfa2de09acdf52d145

(610)

on June 23, 2012
at 12:06 PM

I'm with the magnesium citrate too, I took around 400mg for 3 weeks, and it all became very regular (I woke up, did 10 steps and felt the need to go to the toilet). Also, it came out nice & clean, almost without the need for toilet paper. Also less smell in some way :) I now use magnesium glycinate, which works a bit less on regularity or cleanliness.. Maybe if I'm out of magnesium glycinate, I will return to citrate, I had so much fun on toilets then :D

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on June 23, 2012
at 07:48 AM

Uh...too much information, people.

7d3a7b532811b6cfa2de09acdf52d145

(610)

on June 23, 2012
at 12:09 PM

Oh yeah, my main use for magnesium is sleep & muscle-rest, cause I'm always very tensed (even after meditating) and do a lot of sports; it makes my nights so much more relaxed and my days too; the effects on my stool were just side-effects.

121a16aded2bed8dca492d3c9662ef4c

(1327)

on June 23, 2012
at 01:57 PM

Squatting is the best way to go! That said, squatting on a standard toilet seat is a tad risky (um... ever had one slip out from underneath you?) The "squatty potty" looks like a nice way to go, because it's so compact, but I think I'd be more partial to a platform like this one (http://www.naturesplatform.com) for the full squat experience! Now, if you'll excuse me, I think I'm gonna go crunch one out ;)

5249df0c1098a8ea4607cc305f0cbdcf

(864)

on June 28, 2012
at 03:03 PM

Thanks Dragonfly. Is there a reasoning behind taking the Magnesium Citrate at night vs during the day? (Currently, I'm taking it around lunchtime.)

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on June 28, 2012
at 03:23 PM

It's relaxing, so can help with sleep & personally I find that it helps to have an early morning poo, so I am done for the rest of the day!

1
Bdc6244bdbd664d2168a8e326018ffbe

(431)

on September 06, 2012
at 05:19 PM

I did have such symptoms- I started taking glutamine, tons of really good probiotics, and grass-fed gelatin. Pretty much everything wrong with me was then fixed!

5249df0c1098a8ea4607cc305f0cbdcf

(864)

on September 06, 2012
at 08:08 PM

Any fruits in particular? Did you get GF gelatin from bone broth or can you buy straight GF gelatin somewhere?

Bdc6244bdbd664d2168a8e326018ffbe

(431)

on September 06, 2012
at 05:27 PM

Oh, and I started eating fruit again (which I had totally cut out, thinking it wasn't helping-along with vegetables) at the same time, and that may have played quite a role.

Bdc6244bdbd664d2168a8e326018ffbe

(431)

on September 07, 2012
at 02:08 PM

Sorry, that was a lot, but the last couple of months of IBS-like things were some of the worst ever, so I'm unbelievably excited about being so healthy again!

Bdc6244bdbd664d2168a8e326018ffbe

(431)

on September 07, 2012
at 02:04 PM

About the fruits- I don't know, because I eat all of them (except I haven't been eating tropical fruits). All seem fine- I started out with citrus, thinking they're the most innocuous, but dates, berries, apples, everything thus far has been good. Very not paleo conventional wisdom, no? Gelatin-wise- I tried the broth for weeks, but despite having a slow cooker the gelatin content was always pretty hit or miss, and was not as effective as just Great Lakes kosher gelatin. Or maybe its a quantity thing- its easier for me to get lots when taking it straight.

Bdc6244bdbd664d2168a8e326018ffbe

(431)

on September 07, 2012
at 02:07 PM

In order, I started glutamine, while eating essentially only meat for weeks until probiotics and gelatin came to me in the mail- helped a bit. Then I started taking probiotics- helped a lot, started phasing in fruit, then other foods. I can't tell whether gelatin or just continued probiotic use made me continue to heal- within about two weeks, though, my skin is now nearly perfect and I have been able to digest everything I've eaten (although I haven't tried a couple of things yet- cocoa, coconut, eating lots of veggies).

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19ff515e8ec02d95e8f2cf68c3ec1373

(1207)

on June 27, 2012
at 04:10 AM

Me me me me me!

1) 65% fat, 10% carbs, 25% fat. No grains, no starch if any kind.

2) chia seeds at 2-3 tbsp a day

3) salted broth

4) great water

I lived most of my life constipated. Now at least twice a week I get colon emptying greatness. Ahhhhh... Relief. Just. So. Satisfying.

5249df0c1098a8ea4607cc305f0cbdcf

(864)

on June 27, 2012
at 06:18 PM

You mean 25% protein right?

0
59fa7cd87fb9d669adf21e5cf3e7ada5

on September 06, 2012
at 04:59 PM

I have become one with the poo. You must make the poo the focus of your existence so that you become poo itself.

0
57293281b7de2a53b2a39c82f6aa4028

on September 06, 2012
at 04:16 PM

This is old but i just cant help myself. I found the answer to my prayers in the form of a fibre supplement. i dont care what you say - Metamucil saved my life. I now poo every day, once at 8-9am and once at 4-5pm. Like clockwork.

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5b4f57d4d3a66a882eca8ddf87103510

on June 27, 2012
at 09:54 AM

For me, getting to 'nirvana' was a trial-and-error process, with a number of dead-ends, U-turns, major rethinks etc. along the way. My quest for this poo nirvana is a major part of what ultimately led me to places like this, but I learnt a lot before I got here, too.

I'm certainly still learning, and I'm not fully acquainted with FODMAPs and some other specific advice mentioned above, but I can tell you what has worked well for me.

The three key elements of success for me are:

1) Eating properly (obvious, but I'll expand)

2) Chewing

3) Squatting

1) On the food front, swapping out large amounts of grains/beans/sugars (which I mostly consumed in pasta, bread, chocolate) for wholesome vegetables has been key. I eat a lot of steamed greens (brocolli, asparagus, sprouts, kale) and salad vegetables (tomatoes, cucumber, lettuce), as well as sweet potato, carrots, avocado and others.

2) Not much to add on chewing, except just to try to do it more. I used to practically swallow mouthfuls whole after only a couple of bites so probably had more to gain from this than most, but I'd definitely recommend consciously chewing each mouthful a bit more for a week or so and seeing if it makes any difference.

3) Since I didn't know squatty potties existed until a moment ago and couldn't imagine bringing one to work, my approach is a bit different. Essentially I squat with my feet on the rim itself. This does require a degree of balance and flexibility, as well as a willingness to remove more clothing than you might otherwise have had to, but it's been worth it.

One final thought. I used to obsess over these types of problem and try to deal with them with things like 'colon cleansing' tablets, supplementary soluble fibres like psyllium husks, other supplements like bentonite clay (in water), and by eating loads of figs/dates etc. I'm confident that most people who have found their way to paleohacks have already surpassed my initial rudimentary efforts in search of a real solution. For me, that real solution has been the three points above, which involve no extras, no supplements, nothing that seems unnatural or abnormal; just sensible meals, properly chewed, with superb squatting technique.

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Da681d976130df15aac3984013aaad6d

on June 27, 2012
at 06:05 AM

I would pay a million bucks to have poo nirvana.

5249df0c1098a8ea4607cc305f0cbdcf

(864)

on July 02, 2012
at 02:45 AM

Let us find an answer Lauren. BTW, your avatar rocks.

Da681d976130df15aac3984013aaad6d

(720)

on July 02, 2012
at 05:23 PM

ha thanks...I'm a big fan of this illustrator.... http://www.nataliedee.com/ and re: poo nirvana...yes let's find it! I've found the only thing that has ever helped (slightly) is chia seeds.

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0d2dec01a5ed9363a9915e111ae13f7e

on June 27, 2012
at 04:26 AM

My 26 month old is there already. Once a day he squats one out, no need to wipe, no muss/fuss/mess. He's never had a runny shit, messy diaper, or explosive bowels I hear all the parents around us joke/complain about with their kids. He's been eating any sort of veggies, fruits, meats, cheese, raw dairy, nuts he can get his hands on, and still breastfed a bit of his daily intake. Hope he's off to the right start, gut-wise.

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9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

on June 27, 2012
at 01:35 AM

I was plunging the depths of the poo abyss with multiple-daily IBS symptoms. The things that worked for me:

  • drop all grains and sugars. Really, drop them all, completely. No wheat, corn, rice, sugar, anything, for at least 30 days.
  • zero carb breakfast for several weeks or months. For me it was two fried eggs every day, with coffee.
  • eat a raw clove of garlic every day for 2 weeks. Fortunately i love garlic and would chase this down with red wine, but it was tough to get down some days. I think this really did wonders.

About a month into this protocol i felt better. About 6 months later, eating low carb, i am more regular and happy than i have ever been. I am now a two-a-day man, 90% of the time perfect and effortless, which is a major change from my prior 20 years.

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531b053b68e92ac509fc1544f88dc103

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on June 27, 2012
at 12:22 AM

The squatty potty does "squat" for me ;-p

I take a home blend of acacia, konjac, and psyllium fiber 2 times a day, otherwise I get bloated and constipated.

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E82701e2d431c2cdcecff5879af30959

on June 26, 2012
at 11:19 PM

I thank my Squatty Potty every morning :) LOVE it! I do the raw vegan smoothie with lots of fruit. I watch my alcohol and coffe intake. I am actually more regular now without coffee.

Happy Poopin :)

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