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I've been suffering from insomnia and IBS for 20 years (I'm 33 now). Maybe I was born with this problem, I don't know. What I know for sure is that things get worse day by day.
I've tried pretty much everything (and visited any kind of doctor with no success). I was a vegetarian, then went Paleo, then followed the GAPS diet. Every time I begin with something new, it seems to work, but after a few weeks, I go back to day 1 with the same old problems.
Life is so difficult. I'm always bloated and exhausted. No sleep. Whatever food I eat gives me IBS. No social life, recently no job, just staying home (really fatigued) trying to heal.
So, 5 days ago, I started a water fasting to see if finally things are getting better.
I would like to keep a little diary on PH and maybe get some suggestions and recommendations from anybody who tried this before. I don't know how long this is going to be. I will listen to my body and decide accordingly.
HEALTH PROBLEMS I HAVE (BEFORE STARTING THE WATER-FASTING)
- Back Pain
- Brain Fog
- Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
- Chronic Feet Ingrown Toe Nails
- Digestive issues & Bloating
- Dry Skin
- Hair Loss
- Inflammation of the Gum Tissue (Gingivitis)
- Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS)
- Joint Pain
- Low Body Temperature
- Muscle cramps
- Neck Pain
- Night Sweats
- Nocturnal Polyuria
- Restless Legs Syndrome
- Seborrheic dermatitis (scalp, eyebrows, ears, chest)
- Tooth Sensitivity to Cold
WATER FASTING REPORT
DAY 1-4: the first day was really ok. Second and third a bit hungry and weak. Day 4 was with better energy and rare hunger. My insomnia stopped from day 2. I can sleep well now. And that's a good thing.
DAY 5: I'm still half-way through but I slept well last night and I feel well rested with no hunger (drinking water now). Tonight I slept quite well. No particular bloating. Just a little and tolerable one. I had a bath with Epsom Salt and it has helped a lot. Soon after, I was a bit weak, but an hour later, I started to feel good and energetic. Will try again tomorrow but just before going to sleep. I also had my first enema (only water) and although was able to clean my colon a bit, I felt gassy afterwards.
DAY 6: the first part of the night wasn't good. After the enema, I felt bloated (while I had the sensation of needle stinging in my liver) and couldn't sleep until late. I also had a bad arthritis on my right hand (as usual) which during the night extended to the entire arm. Then, I slept. Woke up late but quite energetic. I had a little nap in the afternoon but the day was ok. My liver seems to be ok now (no more stinging) like my arthritis. My tongue is still coated but cleaning day by day. My lips are still very dry (as usual) although seem to improve. While my urge to pee every few hours is currently gone.
During the last day I felt some kind of rigidity when urinating (around the bladder) although no problem or pain when peeing. My seborrheic dermatitis is doing well. Red rashes on the chest disappeared yesterday. I still have some scabs on my eyebrows while the crusts in my ears and scalp have mostly gone. My chronic ingrown nails (both feet) are also improving. Left one is ok (no more pain). Right one still aching but less and less. In the end, my body temperature is increasing. Still have very cold feet, but the rest (usually freezing) is ok.
DAY 7: last night I couldn't sleep at all. Not even one minute. I had a continuous pain in my liver, especially when laid down in bed. Despite all this, the day was good, I had good energy and has been so far the best day while fasting. I tried to go out for a walk but it was too cold and when fasting it is advisable to keep warm. My little asthma seems to be gone (together with short breathe) while the chronic cramp in my right calf is disappearing little by little Same applies to my back pain. Also my voice is back (always suffered from cough and being aphonic) as it had not for many years. During the day I felt a bit hungry but reading the book of Dr. Shelton helped me to deceive my symptoms and continue with my journey. The point is that whatever I watch on TV, I see people cooking and eating :-(( So I need to find something else to do.
Weight Check on Day 7: today I checked my weight for the first time after a week. So far, I lost 5 kg (11 pounds).
I've always been skinny as the problem resides in malabsorption. Whatever I eat, doesn't get absorbed properly. I've been eating nourishing food for 8 months, taking supplements, without ever cheating and never skipping one single meal. I couldn't take one single pound. Actually I lost some.
DAY 8: finally, last night was perfect. The best was that I never had to go to the bathroom to urinate (which I usually do 6-8 times per night). It was intense and somehow short (5 hours, although a good record for me). But I read that when fasting (and not digesting), the body usually needs much less time to rest. My dry lips are finally well and naturally hydrated. All the rest seems to be ok (no liver pain for the moment). My tongue is still well coated, although some pink areas are appearing. No palpitations today. Hunger is under control. Moreover, I received Dr. Shelton's book ("Fasting can save your life" 1964, highly recommended!) and devoured it in one day. It was amazing and so clarifying through the fasting. A must-read book for whoever wants to try this experience!
DAY 9: last night was absolutely sleepless. Not even one minute. But at least, no pain. I could lay in the bed all time and relaxing somehow. Also, I had all night "restless legs syndrome" (I hadn't this since long time). During the day I was more tired than usual and so I stayed calm on the couch in silence and darkness. Beyond being very tired I have dry skin and an herpes on the right side of my mouth (this is visible since almost the beginning of the fasting and it is very hard to improve). No hunger at all though. Occasional burping during the day and today (for the first time) I felt the need to throw up. But it wasn't strong enough and didn't happen.
DAY 10: last night was good. I slept in the bed for about 4 hours (from 3 to 7) and then on the couch (from 8 to noon). I feel very well rested now. I read somewhere that during the night the body (mainly through the liver) detoxifies and when it can't (because of too many toxins) creates a tension in the body that makes impossible to relax and thus insomnia. It's exactly the same sensation I have (and always had in the last years) at night (although improving day by day). Today I'll check again my weight and update you. Ah, no hunger!!
Weight Check on Day 10: since last weight check (day 7), I lost 1.5 Kg (3.3 pounds). While from Day 1 until today, I lost 6.5 Kg (14.3 pounds).
DAY 11: the night (sleep) was somehow difficult. I wasn't sleepy until 3AM,but although I wasn't ready to lay down (felt, as usual, some tension in my body and was impossible to sleep) decided anyway to try sleeping (not a smart decision). I laid down on the sofa and as soon as I did, my restless legs syndrome started. I couldn't resist much. So I sat on the couch in a comfortable position and remained still for a few hours. It was a great time. I felt my body get loose, little by little, and a sense of wellness pervading every cell of my body. Early in the morning, I went to bed and slept well until late (in total, 6-7 hours). I feel very good now. Maybe the best time since I started the fasting. I still have some arthritis to my right hand (coming and going) but tolerable. My herpes is improving. I have instead some rigidity around the neck. While my tongue is getting cleaner everyday (this is a good sign of detox). My hair look thicker and my skin face color healthier than usual. Hunger is missing. My father (MD) just checked my pressure and heartbeat. It's all perfect. ;-))
DAY 12 & 13: these 2 days have been very difficult. The hardest ones from the beginning. I've been so bloated and gassy. Back pain and no way to sleep or rest. I really don't know where all this gas is coming from considering I've been only consuming filtered water for the last 13 days. The only good thing is that my legs are getting stronger and today I was able to walk a bit without too much effort. Another good thing is my body temperature. Today, for the first time, I took my second jumper off (without freezing) after 13 days.At the same time, my mouth tastes of medicine (or chemical). My tongue is 50% coated. So I'm probably half way through. Tomorrow, new weight check. I didn't write earlier cause there was no energy left. Right now I'm feeling a bit better. I hope things are improving.
DAY 14: after the last 2 gassy days, all the air in my intestine reabsorbed, and I instantly got so energetic. I stayed awake all night, feeling well. Only at 8 AM, I was able to sleep 5 hours. I then woke up rested and felt good for the rest of the day.
Weight Check on Day 14: since last weight check (day 10), I lost 1.6 Kg (3.5 pounds). While from Day 1 until today, I lost 8.1 Kg (17.8 pounds).
DAY 15: it was another bloated and difficult night which I was anyway able to manage through walking and sitting on a chair. I also had pain in a teeth (where I have a root canal). The pain has now subsided. Early in the morning I was then able to sleep. My urine is quite smelly (medicine) in these days. I also have the sensation that everytime I'm trying to hold my pee, I feel worse (more bloated than usual). So it's better to pee very often. I also had some cravings at night, but it wasn't real hunger. Just some random thoughts (I dreamt of stewed rabbit!!) which went away easily upon deep breathing.
DAY 16: the night was bad (no sleep at al) but entertaining (US Election Day). Only at 11 AM was able to sleep a few hours (very bloated). During the day I had my father (MD) to check my BP (highest: 80). BP was quite low (in the previous days, highest BP was 100). SO we had a discussion and it was quite stressing. I was in general weaker than usual, but I believe it was due to my lack of sleep. It's not the first time I felt like that (even when non fasting).
DAY 17: last night was again difficult. I stayed awake until 4 AM, then laid down. Couldn't sleep, but had no symptoms so I relaxed a bit. Later, a severe bloating started again and went on for several hours. So I sat on a chair (it usually helps to dissipate the bloating). It didn't help much. Later in the morning (although I couldn't lay down) I comfortably sat on the couch and was able to sleep for 5 hours. It was good. MD came in again, we had a conflicting discussion. My BP was checked again (this time the highest BP was 120) and was finally good. I had to clarify a few issues with my father and clearly realized that being an MD doesn't mean (at all!) knowing what "fasting" means. It was good and releasing. He is worried, but I'm improving and that's what it counts.
Weight Check on Day 17: since last weight check (day 14), I lost 300 gr. (0.7 pounds). While from Day 1 until today, I lost 8.4 Kg (18.5 pounds).
MOST DIFFICULT THINGS TO DEAL WITH WHILE FASTING
1. Dealing with your family members They are mostly skeptical and afraid (I also have a doctor in my family!). So in the end, beyond being already quite weak you have to explain and reassuring them everyday that everything is going fine. Not always easy but necessary to continue your fasting.
2. Managing your Time Time is very extended and slow while fasting. Eating which means many things (thinking about what to eat, shopping, putting things in order, setting the table, feeding everybody, cooking, cleaning, eating, digesting) is so much time consuming that you don't have a precise idea unless you try fasting. Your perception of time drastically changes while fasting (and possibly improves).
3. Managing your energy level This changes according to people. In my case (like many others) my energy level is quite low. Until now, I can barely move from the couch to the bed and have some occasional and very fast showers. Every step triggers an important heartbeat accelerations which may result scary in the beginning (unless you know this is normal). Even turning in the bed produces heart acceleration. So it's wise to move slowly and mainly stay firm. Maybe things will improve (like seasoned pratictioners report).
For most people, fasting is an unusual experience. This is particularly so if it is a first fast. The faster is likely to experience unfounded anxiety, uncertainty, mental perturbation, even fear. In addition, he experiences new feelings and sensations that may disturb him. For these reasons alone, the best place to fast is at an institution, under the guidance of a man of wide experience in fasting. H.M. Shelton
See you tomorrow with new updates.
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on October 30, 2012
at 12:32 AM
I tried water fasting for 24 days (almost 2 years ago) to get rid of my IBS and a skin condition... while my symptoms were reduced during the fast it did nothing to tackle the root of the issue. I'm now fairly certain that what I have is SIBO (small intestine bacterial overgrowth). When you have an overgrowth of bacteria in the small intestine, any kind of food can cause IBS and malabsorption can be an issue. I also have always been thin, but not in a healthy way. I'm going to try a protocol involving natural antimicrobials (probably oregano oil, peppermint oil, and/or garlic) to kill the overgrowth and good probiotics/prebiotics to repopulate the colon. I'll let you know how things go.
on November 01, 2012
at 03:28 AM
I think fasting can be a powerful tool, but I have heard that some people are prone to having low potassium levels while fasting, which can lead to heart trouble and death. I don't know how prevalent this potential condition is, but it is a concern of mine when I fast. I believe one must be genetically pre-disposed for this condition to develop.
on October 28, 2012
at 07:43 PM
I would recommend checking out Dr. Joel Fuhrman's book, "Eating and Fasting for Health" or something like that, he goes in depth on several different ailments and the benefits of fasting. There is also the website Freedom You (more religious, but there could be helpful segments, links and information and http://www.fitnessthroughfasting.com/, which has some information, references, etc. I was able to resolve some major health problems with water fasting and I definitely attribute some of that to fasting. It isn't always popular, but I am sure you can find out what is best for you. It sounds to me like you are having positive results, I also think fasting is incredible for the mind - it can be super trippy but also helped me take time (since time seems to really slow down when fasting) and figure a lot out. Best wishes.
on October 27, 2012
at 06:39 PM
If you're having gut problems you should not be fasting (Dr Kruse also says that only healthy individuals should fast for long time). For gut problems you follow a more fermented-food route, and I would especially suggest home-made goat kefir (definitely not store-bought). It's the cure-all for gut issues IMHO, I know, I lived 10 years with IBS. GAPS suggests yogurt, just like SCD does, but kefir can be up to 10x more potent. And then, there's the rest of the fermented foods, bone broth, shellfish, offal, sea veggies. Do you eat these?
For better sleep, you must expose your skin to the sun to get UVB and create melatonin. Never going out, or simply getting D3 pills won't help with that. You might also want to occasionally get some Magnesium Malate 2 hours before sleep (not daily though).
on November 08, 2012
at 06:35 PM
My concern for fasting for IBS is that it is a temporary fix. Of course you won't react to anything if you aren't eating anything. But the problem can still fester and come right back. Even worse, you are probably not getting enough nutrition to rebuild the small intestine's damage, which is likely the source of many IBS problems. I would suggest seeking out a specialist who will screen you for SIBO and give you antibiotics like Rifaximin for that. Antibiotics should be avoided, but for SIBO it will give you the fresh start you are seeking here and so far I've never seen any evidence that you can just cure serious SIBO with diet...maybe a VLC or ZC diet could clear it, but it would be very difficult. After that you can focus on rebuilding gut integrity, restoring stomach acidity, and repairing excessive intestinal permeability with a diet like GAPs and probiotics.
But overall this is not a question and fasts of this magnitude are potentially deadly in vulnerable people, so I'd really recommend finding a doctor to at least supervise if you are considering this.
on November 06, 2012
at 11:26 PM
But I would consider taking a look at a potential candida yeast problem being responsible for at least some of the issues.
And for that kind of problem you many want to consider a combination of a smart diet and the right dietary supplements that have a good reputation for getting candida yeast related issues under control.
on November 02, 2012
at 06:48 PM
I can't imagine water fasting to cure insomnia. Being hungry is one big problem with my sleeping!
on November 01, 2012
at 10:43 AM
After the first week of fasting your body metabolism needs probably become like 90% fat 10% protein (in calories). So you can slow down weight loss by compensating with at least adequate amount of fat, thus extending your fast.
on October 27, 2012
at 01:42 PM
I've done 10 days of water fasting, and I'd never ever repeat something like that. Depending on your body fat percentage it can be a pretty bad idea, and it can easily make things worse. Regardless of the body fat percentage, I'd strongly suggest you to stop it right now, and focus on fixing you social life and finding a nice job, it sounds like your problems are largely related to stress/depression.
on September 02, 2013
at 12:31 PM
Hows it going now? Did your water fast cure your insomnia permanently?
on November 05, 2012
at 02:10 AM
Your symptoms are all over the map as are mine. Honeslty thought I was crazy. Turns out I have Chari Malformation, it has been documented to cause all kinds of issues that seem unrelated to one another. Search out Dr. Oro in CO for more info. Best of luck to you and I hope you find health.
on October 29, 2012
at 04:00 AM
I am gluten sensitive and I have been on a modified gluten free/paleo diet for the past 3 years. I had serious gut issues and I was lucky to find a good internist. It sounds like you are in a similar position as I was around my diagnosis. I suggest you go find a doctor that understands and is willing to let you modify your diet and not drug you to mask the symptoms. My tests also revealed that I had helicobacter pylori, which required a round of antibiotics. I started off with the cleansing diet for celiac patients along with Dr. Dougherty's no iron supplements. I took the supplements for about 2 months, then I moved on to just using gluten free no iron multivitamins and gluten free probiotic pills. I found out that I had other unknown food allergies along the way. I suggest that you introduce different items back in your diet slowly and watch your reaction to them. But most importantly, get some medical advice. I wish you the best.
on October 28, 2012
at 07:15 PM
I think fecal transplant would be a good option to try- sounds like there have been so many issues, it's a good last resort. You can't fast with only water all the time, so if once you reintroduce foods again you continue to have problems, I would definitely look into a fecal transplant.
If there isn't someone in your area who does it, you can have the world's messiest DIY project in your very own home. You need a blender, a fecal sample sample, and the supplies to administer an enema. It's optional to take antibiotics beforehand yourself to eliminate most of your gut microbiota thoroughly. The fecal sample should be from someone in good health (including good mental health and size) and if it's from someone around you (relative, friend, coworker who isn't going to be weirded out hard) you will be populating with bacteria that is in your regular environment. The person, if possible, should be tested for C. Diff to make sure you arent going to take a bad situation and make it worse.
Fecal transplants have a history in veterinary medicine and are used to save patients with antibiotic resistant infections or to try and eliminate IBS.
on November 02, 2012
at 09:33 AM
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