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Is sauerkraut worth the investment?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created January 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM

I've been paleo for a while now and still have digestive problems, I'm thinking of buying a fermentation crock pot from amazon (??42 including shipping from Germany) after reading that probiotic pills are basically useless

The only thing is I'm pretty skint and I'm spending so much money on food already, I'm just afraid that I won't be able to make it properly or it won't make any difference to my digestion

What are peoples experiences with this? Is it worth the investment? Will I notice a big difference?

Over the past ten years I have been quite stressed, eating lots of sugar (though both curbed now) and have had at least one course of antibiotics; could this explain my IBS, allergies and fatigue? (which slowly appeared and got worse over those 10 years)

Cheers

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

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on January 31, 2013
at 08:24 PM

How severe were your symptoms?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on January 31, 2013
at 07:08 PM

I use this method for kraut http://www.wildfermentation.com/making-sauerkraut-2/

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on January 31, 2013
at 07:06 PM

Kefir is a pain in the arse! I tried it, but keeping up sucked. Ended up tossing em. I only ferment kraut and other veggies now and periodically do some 24hr. yogurt. But good luck with the grains...I never found kefir to taste all that great so maybe that lead to my not caring for the upkeep.

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

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on January 31, 2013
at 05:52 PM

I bought some kefir grains from ebay so I'm gonna give them a go first, and if they go well I'll move onto saurkraut, cheers!

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on January 31, 2013
at 05:46 PM

I just finished my second round of antibiotics. I just hope I don't have to take it the third time around :(

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on January 31, 2013
at 05:45 PM

1. Take the hydrogen/methane test. If you have it, the numbers will show. 2. I have it. I never knew I did. I self-diagnosed myself based on symptoms, then I took the test that proved I had it. 3. Without antibiotics you need 5 days of bone broth and meat and then low-fodmaps SCD diet. I disagree with GAPS for SIBO because of the onion - SIBO patients cannot have onions. Some people swear by herbal remedies.

4e184df9c1ed38f61febc5d6cf031921

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on January 31, 2013
at 05:35 PM

I'd been making sauerkraut in a ceramic pot thing with OK results. Bought a Harsch crock and the results are SO MUCH better. Also making kefir and matsoni yogurt (works at room temperature and SO easy) and find digestion has improved a lot.

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on January 31, 2013
at 05:15 PM

If I have sibo how do I get rid of it without antibiotics? did you have it? how did you get rid of it?

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

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on January 31, 2013
at 03:06 PM

Once you make the effort with kraut, it's done and can last a very long while. I actually made a big batch four weeks ago and put in the fridge yesterday, the last big one I made lasted a good six months! Kefir requires ongoing maintenance (ie one retrieves grains from liquid (milk or sugar water) and puts in new liquid, every few days or so. It's pretty easy,, although sometimes I'm lazy and couldn't be bothered changing the liquid lol (grains havn't died luckily...). Kefir and kraut both easy to make I reckon. Or you can do 'kefirkraut' ha... http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirkraut

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on January 31, 2013
at 02:51 PM

Thanks, is kefir easier to make then?

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Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

on January 31, 2013
at 02:17 PM

You don't need a crock to make kraut. Depending on how much you want to make you could do it in a jar with gasket (just make sure not to fill it to the brim), or a food grade bucket (home brew supply shops useful for this sort of thing).

All you need then is cabbage and salt, and time (for fermentation and to cut it up and extract the water; I don't blend it or have one of those slicer thingies...) It is not hard to do. Use an unrefined salt that doesn't have iodine (I believe it inhibits fermentation). If you don't manage to release/pound enough water from the cabbage, also use filtered water (chlorine/chloramine a does the same).

As for you IBS etc, I'm not in a position to say... There probably is a lot of things that could be affecting you (thyroid,adrenal status. dysbiosis etc) I don't know...

If you do make kraut, I'd advise though to be cautious in how much you eat (perhaps start with the juice as per Gaps protocol). Cabbage is also goitrogenic so that may be a factor of consideration for you, so too the fodmap content if you have digestive issues. I encourage you to go for it though - it is easy to do and gives options re nutrition of diet and eating in culinarily exciting way....

Consider kefir or tibicos /water kefir too if you want probiotics in your diet

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on January 31, 2013
at 05:52 PM

I bought some kefir grains from ebay so I'm gonna give them a go first, and if they go well I'll move onto saurkraut, cheers!

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on January 31, 2013
at 07:06 PM

Kefir is a pain in the arse! I tried it, but keeping up sucked. Ended up tossing em. I only ferment kraut and other veggies now and periodically do some 24hr. yogurt. But good luck with the grains...I never found kefir to taste all that great so maybe that lead to my not caring for the upkeep.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on January 31, 2013
at 07:08 PM

I use this method for kraut http://www.wildfermentation.com/making-sauerkraut-2/

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on January 31, 2013
at 03:06 PM

Once you make the effort with kraut, it's done and can last a very long while. I actually made a big batch four weeks ago and put in the fridge yesterday, the last big one I made lasted a good six months! Kefir requires ongoing maintenance (ie one retrieves grains from liquid (milk or sugar water) and puts in new liquid, every few days or so. It's pretty easy,, although sometimes I'm lazy and couldn't be bothered changing the liquid lol (grains havn't died luckily...). Kefir and kraut both easy to make I reckon. Or you can do 'kefirkraut' ha... http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirkraut

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on January 31, 2013
at 02:51 PM

Thanks, is kefir easier to make then?

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F299706618ad5d2c014130cb35d07dcf

on January 31, 2013
at 03:55 PM

Fermented sauerkraut really helped my digestion. I eat a little bit everyday with some dairy free keifer and it works wonders. I don't make mine though, I but it from whole foods. The brand i use is called bubbies and it's in the fridge section. If you have a whole foods close by, you could try it before you decided to make it on your own.

Hope this helps!

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F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on January 31, 2013
at 04:30 PM

If I were you, I would start buying raw organic sauerkraut and eating some with every meal. Do not invest into jars yet.

HERE IS THE IMPORTANT PART:

If fermented food makes you feel worse, it means you might have SIBO and it means bye-bye to fermented foods.

According to Mark Pimentel's book, people with SIBO should not use probiotics until they are completely recovered (which is after a course of heavy duty antibiotics). If they take probiotics too early, their SIBO will come back. And they suffer even more if they have prebiotics.

Why? Because their gut is impaired and ANY bacteria (good or bad) in small intestines does more harm than good.

Another sure sign of SIBO if you are taking prebiotics and you feel worse (that's what happened to me).

FATIGUE AND IBS are clear signs of SIBO. Also slow digestion and sweet cravings.

Good luck! I feel your pain.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on January 31, 2013
at 05:45 PM

1. Take the hydrogen/methane test. If you have it, the numbers will show. 2. I have it. I never knew I did. I self-diagnosed myself based on symptoms, then I took the test that proved I had it. 3. Without antibiotics you need 5 days of bone broth and meat and then low-fodmaps SCD diet. I disagree with GAPS for SIBO because of the onion - SIBO patients cannot have onions. Some people swear by herbal remedies.

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on January 31, 2013
at 08:24 PM

How severe were your symptoms?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on January 31, 2013
at 05:46 PM

I just finished my second round of antibiotics. I just hope I don't have to take it the third time around :(

7cf9f5b08a41ecf2a2d2bc0b31ea6fa0

(4176)

on January 31, 2013
at 05:15 PM

If I have sibo how do I get rid of it without antibiotics? did you have it? how did you get rid of it?

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194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

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on January 31, 2013
at 02:15 PM

In my opinion, a big whopping YES. After the first 2 weeks of eating raw fermented veggies with protein in my meals, my fatigue essentially disappeared, and I felt like I was digesting and assimilating my food infinitely better. I could feel the energy from each meal, a large tangible difference from before.

I say it supercharges the digestive system.

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7eba3d743671649c1e06cacce0ba4e77

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on February 01, 2013
at 02:16 AM

You don't need to purchase anything that's expensive to make or eat sauerkraut. I actually use old glass containers that used to carry honey for my sauerkraut. I can usually fit a little more than a half a cabbage in these containers. You can use large mason jars, anything that is glass with a lid. Just use boiling water to sterilize.

Doing smaller batches this way, you can see how you really do with the sauerkraut. Maybe do different ingredients in different jars and have couple of different ferments going on at the same time. Maybe plain cabbage in one container, cabbage and carrots in another, cabbage and carrots and beets in another etc.

After you try homemade sauerkraut in smaller amounts and find out that it really does benefit your body and you would like to make it on a bigger scale, then maybe you might think of investing in those large ceramic fermentation crocks. Check at used good stores, garage sales, or a freecycle group in your area though, they might have something similar.

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3491e51730101b18724dc57c86601173

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on January 31, 2013
at 07:07 PM

I have a jury-rigged setup. My local home brew shop Beverage People, Santa Rosa,Ca--they do mail order!) sold me a $3 airlock and a 79cent drilled rubber stopper and drilled the correct size hole in a plastic mason jar lid for free.

I have better results with the airlock than with just the jar, but either will work. Definitely worth a $5 investment when local stores sell cultured sauerkraut for $6 a pint!

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75d65450b6ff0be7b969fb321f1200ac

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on January 31, 2013
at 05:08 PM

As others have indicated, you might want to start off on a smaller scale. I first bought a ceramic container, perhaps 1.5 liters in size, for about $12. It holds about one cabbage worth of sauerkraut. While fermenting I simply cover the top with cling plastic wrap. It takes me about 7-10 days to go through one cabbage worth of sauerkraut (..just me eating a small portion per day). And yes, making sauerkraut is well worth it. The only "trick": make sure you have the correct salinity for proper fermentation (one level teaspoon of salt per cup of water added).

I would go with a small container for making sauerkraut until you have mastered the technique of making sauerkraut and are sure you want to buy a fermentation crock. I have smallest crock available (5 liters) and it takes me a LONG time to eat through so much sauerkraut. Having said this, sauerkraut keeps for a long time (months probably).

_Lazza

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D5d982a898721d3392c85f951d0bf0aa

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on January 31, 2013
at 04:14 PM

It isn't hard to make with a clean jar and lid. There are even cheap ways to hack an airlock onto a mason jar, if you're interested. That's about $7 USD max. But I've had good versions in just a jar. It's totally learnable - and when you do it yourself it's dirt cheap. If you have to chuck a batch, you're not out much money at all.

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Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

on January 31, 2013
at 02:20 PM

(I've never made sauerkraut, so take this for what it's worth)

You can make it at home with a makeshift setup. You don't need a dedicated crock.

Here's one example:

http://youtu.be/AAByu1Lb8GM

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