Ever since early adulthood I have had stomach issues, primarily loose stool. I was tested for Celiac (which was negative) and ultimately diagnosed with IBS and told to take tons of fiber pills. Even though I didn't have Celiac I tried cutting out gluten anyway which helped a ton. I then moved to paleo, cut out the fiber pills and my stomach issues didn't get any worse. Every several days though, I seem to have a "purge" day and my stomach is very unsettled. I started taking a probiotic called Primal Defense by Garden of Life. They claim to have Homeostatic Soil Organisms which sounded like it makes sense...dirt. However after a few days my stomach went crazy. Is this a short term reaction that will get better or should I stop taking the stuff? I feel like I should be taking a probiotic but I'm afraid of the reaction. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
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on October 23, 2010
at 04:57 PM
Primal defense made me feel much worse, but then again most probiotics have made my problems worse, until I started taking acidophilus exclusively, without the other strains like bifidobacterium.
People with SIBO (short intestine bacterial overgrowth) tend to have a small intestine that gets too high of a population of bacteria, especially bacteria that normally resides in the colon (bifidobacterium). Acidophilus normally resides in the small intestine.
If you want to try taking lactobaccilus bacteria only (acidophilus is in the lactobacilus family), there are a couple of brands out there: custom probiotics, GI pro health, culturelle and primadophilus reuteri.
The SCD (specific carbohydrate diet) also recommends taking only acidophilus, and I should have listened to their advice earlier before I spent hundreds on stronger and stronger formulations that ultimately made me feel worse.
Making your own yogurt or sauerkraut is also a good idea. If making yogurt, you can also find a acidophilus only starter.
Also be aware that when probiotics are doing a lot of work, you can experience a die-off reaction. To my experience, that reaction is often very similar to the flu. Sneezing, red eyes, fatigue and allergies.
on October 23, 2010
at 11:20 AM
2 things: yes, it can take a couple of weeks for your body to adjust to the new probiotics. Also, have you considered another allergen? For instance, dairy AND gluten did that to me and although paleo helped, it wasn't until both were removed that I finally saw some improvement. Like actually feeling good for the first time in probably my life! It can take up to 6 weeks to see improvement after removing allergens. Just a thought.
on September 17, 2012
at 09:52 PM
Primal Defense DOES contain gluten. Trace amounts, perhaps, but enough for a gluten-sensitive individual like myself to get very very sick after each pill.
Google celiac and primal defense, and you'll see many reviewers noting they got glutened from this product.
It's disappointing because the product clearly and prominently states "Gluten Free". It ain't!!
Me? I'm sick at home because I've taken 6 of these pills over the last few weeks, and each time I got severely glutened. I woke up last night sick and nauseous and knew it was due to gluten based on my symptoms. The ONLY product I added was this one.
And yes I've taken tons of probiotics before. Never had a reaction to any others. This is the only one with gluten in it. Beware.
Try a different brand of probiotics.
on September 27, 2011
at 10:37 PM
Hey there, fermented foods are a great way to re-populate the digestive tract without taking pills. I suffer on & off with candida in the gut & found while eating fermented foods my gut balance was much better. As someone else mentioned, you can have die-off when the bad bacteria are over-run by good & this can mean a flare-up of symptoms before you feel better. Getting rid of gluten is awesome, I did it too for the very same reasons as you. Not celiac but gluten intolerant, I was told it's the sign of a strong immune system when you can't eat gluten....not too sure on that theory but sounds good to me :0) I culture my own vegetables with kefir but you can get other starters online as some people are also sensitive to kefir...Good luck, Mel :0)
on October 23, 2010
at 11:38 AM
Nothing in this world is for everyone, but you may indeed just be going through a transition period.
If this particular supplement doesn't work, there are others you could try. OR, you could do it yourself! lacto-fermenting veggies is extremely easy and fun. All you need are some mason jars, high quality milk, maybe a buttermilk culture, and some cabbage. Culture the milk, let it separate, drain the whey, and use it to ferment some sauerkraut. Delicious.
Sally Fallon's "Nourishing Traditions" has some really good info on all this.
Try some options out and listen to your body. Good luck!