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Would you do paleo if you didn't have to?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 18, 2012 at 6:43 AM

This is a hypothetical question.

Supposing you received a stem cell transplant and the donor genes somehow enabled you to be able to eat bread, pasta and all sorts of carbs without an allergy or metabolic penalty - just like some people out there that stay slim no matter how much junk they eat.

Would you go back to a Neolithic diet if you didn't put on weight from it or get any allergies?

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on October 24, 2012
at 10:17 AM

Yeah, a heavy artisan wood-fired sourdough rye. Toast, rub with garlic, place fresh tomato and basil. Or, I won't lie, pretty much any cheese known to humankind... Pretty good...! One day I'm sure I'll have he pleausre again, no sweat though :)

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on October 19, 2012
at 05:24 PM

That's very true. I have an insane weakness for bean soups. Also I ate a chicken n waffles taco the other day that was pure bliss. Not all non-paleo food is junk food.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on October 19, 2012
at 04:38 PM

Though there's a lot of "real food" that is still non-paleo. French pastries? Samosas? Tongue tacos? Welsh cakes? Empanadas? Dahl? All real food, all stuff I would love to eat and would taste amazing if I wasn't quite so paleo (though, I do eat these things still as a treat).

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on October 19, 2012
at 03:22 PM

I totally agree. I use to love bottled zesty Italian dressing. I ate a salad at my parents house last night and they did not have olive oil for me to make my own dressing so I used the bottle that was in their fridge. Tasted awful! I don't know how i used to love that stuff.

Bf57bcbdc19d4f1728599053acd020ab

(5043)

on October 19, 2012
at 11:10 AM

there are a lot of us here doing a version or two of Paleo who don't have to... it's about health, not looks IMO

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on October 18, 2012
at 11:44 PM

hell yeah!! my kind of diet. i'd be eating eggplant parm every day with a side of artichoke dip and pizza.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:49 PM

And so convenient, there is one a few blocks from me. I start to have fantasies like that when I'm driving all over town to hit the co-op, TJ's and Whole paycheck. Although back in my clubbing days I did discover that you can get a dozen eggs, bacon, English Muffins, and milk at 7-11 at 4 in the morning for that late night breakfast, so not everything there is too sucky.

F9638b939a6f85d67f60065677193cad

(4266)

on October 18, 2012
at 06:15 PM

Yeah, me too. Not the cake, but definitely fresh chocolate chip cookies and lots of candy. Maybe crusty bread dipped in olive oil or thick with real butter. Otherwise, I don't miss any of the other ingredients in the SAD.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on October 18, 2012
at 06:00 PM

It would be nice to go into a 7-11 or fast food joint and think: "Wow, this is all good for me!"

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on October 18, 2012
at 05:58 PM

If I could be in fantastic health eating Entemann's chocolate donut holes, then that is what I would be eating.

46bee6b93ee79082ea1094f26c2da5a4

(837)

on October 18, 2012
at 02:45 PM

wheat and rye toast - nom nom nom nom...

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on October 18, 2012
at 11:25 AM

sorry, meant to say that link is the first page linked to on goole search I did...

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on October 18, 2012
at 11:15 AM

1st page on google, I urge you to try some one day if you can. It's basically soybeans that are fermented in a barrel for 3 years. Result is a block of very intense umami filled goodness. Can be added to soups. I've also eaten it plain and as a garnish to many things - is top stuff. http://www.yamasa.org/acjs/network/english/newsletter/japan_guide_06.html

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on October 18, 2012
at 11:08 AM

Never heard of it, let alone tasted it

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on October 18, 2012
at 10:15 AM

Hatcho miso is pretty good ;)

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on October 18, 2012
at 09:45 AM

I might miss unending sweetness a little still, but there again, thats an addiction, its a path to unending binging and dissatifaction, like drugs. I am better off either without it, or keeping it at a minimum. So actually, I am going to change my answer to no. Id take the hypothetical miracle powers, just because a few miracle powers are always handy to have around, but I would at least not generally use them

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on October 18, 2012
at 09:44 AM

Then again, I think I am not sure about that answer of "yes". I dont miss bread, its the toppings that are the good part. Certainly not soy, vege oils or chemicals. I dont stay up at night thinking about large bland bird food like plates of rice or oats.

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on October 18, 2012
at 09:39 AM

Theres alot more to SAD than wheat and carbs. Processed sugars, oils, chemicals and very importantly a complete lack of required nutrients. Which makes this question a little comparable to "if you could survive without oxygen, or other logically required biological processes, would you?". To which I would probably answer yes, just like I would if I were asked a similar, super-hypothetical question, like "would I fly and have super powers" . But just to clarify, I do not eat paleo to lose weight, or because I have allergies. I do it because its good for me and a good fit for being a human.

F7cf9588bc47db8b3b7ddeb5172a9311

(455)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:46 AM

This was going to be my answer as well. Once you've developed a taste for real food, the artifical stuff tastes just that.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:36 AM

forget it, i see the confusion now, the question in the Title & the question in the Body require opposite responses... I take it your answer fits the "No, I would not go back to a Neolithic diet" format

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:32 AM

i just got thrown by one of the answers & then realised why. It looks like the question in the Title & the question in the Body require opposite yes/no responses...? which may make the answers a bit confusing

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:31 AM

i just got thrown by one of the answers & then realised why. It looks like the question in the Title & the question in the Body require opposite responses...? which may make the answers a bit confusing

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:27 AM

forget it, i see the confusion now, the question in the Title & the question in the Body require opposite responses...

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:22 AM

is that a double negative or something? ...looking at your explanation, did you mean something more like..."Yes, I would still do paleo even if I did not have to", correct?

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:21 AM

is that a double negative or something? ...looking at your explanation, did you mean something more like..."Yes, I would do paleo even if I did not have to", correct?

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:19 AM

slimness isn't necessairily health

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17 Answers

7
6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:08 AM

Absolutely. Although the benefits would have to be more than not gaining weight or not having food allergies, it would have to be a situation where my health thrived on modern and processed food.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on October 18, 2012
at 06:00 PM

It would be nice to go into a 7-11 or fast food joint and think: "Wow, this is all good for me!"

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:49 PM

And so convenient, there is one a few blocks from me. I start to have fantasies like that when I'm driving all over town to hit the co-op, TJ's and Whole paycheck. Although back in my clubbing days I did discover that you can get a dozen eggs, bacon, English Muffins, and milk at 7-11 at 4 in the morning for that late night breakfast, so not everything there is too sucky.

5
7e36094a0f7a2fbad24290225405220b

(2064)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:06 AM

No, I don't think I would go back to a neolithic diet. I enjoy the paleo food I eat now too much. Artificial flavours and over sweetness don't taste right any more.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:22 AM

is that a double negative or something? ...looking at your explanation, did you mean something more like..."Yes, I would still do paleo even if I did not have to", correct?

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:27 AM

forget it, i see the confusion now, the question in the Title & the question in the Body require opposite responses...

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on October 19, 2012
at 03:22 PM

I totally agree. I use to love bottled zesty Italian dressing. I ate a salad at my parents house last night and they did not have olive oil for me to make my own dressing so I used the bottle that was in their fridge. Tasted awful! I don't know how i used to love that stuff.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:36 AM

forget it, i see the confusion now, the question in the Title & the question in the Body require opposite responses... I take it your answer fits the "No, I would not go back to a Neolithic diet" format

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on October 19, 2012
at 04:38 PM

Though there's a lot of "real food" that is still non-paleo. French pastries? Samosas? Tongue tacos? Welsh cakes? Empanadas? Dahl? All real food, all stuff I would love to eat and would taste amazing if I wasn't quite so paleo (though, I do eat these things still as a treat).

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:21 AM

is that a double negative or something? ...looking at your explanation, did you mean something more like..."Yes, I would do paleo even if I did not have to", correct?

F7cf9588bc47db8b3b7ddeb5172a9311

(455)

on October 18, 2012
at 07:46 AM

This was going to be my answer as well. Once you've developed a taste for real food, the artifical stuff tastes just that.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on October 19, 2012
at 05:24 PM

That's very true. I have an insane weakness for bean soups. Also I ate a chicken n waffles taco the other day that was pure bliss. Not all non-paleo food is junk food.

4
76211ec5301087de2588cfe3d6bccba9

(1178)

on October 18, 2012
at 02:47 PM

I would eat everything. I love variety and trying every kind of food on the planet just to see how it tastes. There isn't really anything I don't like.

4
Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

on October 18, 2012
at 07:21 AM

I agree with Happy Now. If there are no negatives for health of retreating in the hypothetical then I can't see where there'd be a problem, if for whatever reason I wanted to (novelty perhaps). The want for any foods though is probably inextricably connected to its effects - remove the 'pentalising' effects of a food and there isn't going to really be a compelling disincentive to eating it.

Naturally people in general would continute using food etc as self expression so for some there wouldn't be a change but I wouldn't be adverse to eating bread etc...

3
E565e11cf32b38ab1f45086c1e0205f7

(613)

on October 19, 2012
at 02:20 PM

Would I ever go back to eating packaged, processed foods with artificial ingredients? No.

Would I stop eating meals that consist only of delicious fatty cuts of meats and green vegetables? No.

Would I stop buying as many locally sourced and ethically produced foods as I can access and afford? No.

Would I enjoy including delicious fresh-baked bread, pastries, ice cream, pizza, in my diet? Yessssssss.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on October 24, 2012
at 10:17 AM

Yeah, a heavy artisan wood-fired sourdough rye. Toast, rub with garlic, place fresh tomato and basil. Or, I won't lie, pretty much any cheese known to humankind... Pretty good...! One day I'm sure I'll have he pleausre again, no sweat though :)

3
2e777bbcd49262eb31a24f821abec6bc

(1974)

on October 18, 2012
at 12:59 PM

If it were just as healthy, I would eat cookies, cake, and candy bars all day. I have a horrible sweet tooth an that would definitely be my entire diet!

F9638b939a6f85d67f60065677193cad

(4266)

on October 18, 2012
at 06:15 PM

Yeah, me too. Not the cake, but definitely fresh chocolate chip cookies and lots of candy. Maybe crusty bread dipped in olive oil or thick with real butter. Otherwise, I don't miss any of the other ingredients in the SAD.

2
77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 18, 2012
at 11:34 PM

Hmm..

A bowl of al dente spaghetti aglio olio, drenched with olive oil and shrouded with freshly grated parmesan accompanied with a crusty chunk of bread. After, a generous serving of tiramisu and a double ristretto with hot milk on the side.

As a young man I used to eat up to 3 serves of pasta a day and had a six pack. These days I just need to smell a pasta and I feel the roll thickening..

Where do you buy those stem cells?

2
7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on October 18, 2012
at 01:19 PM

I'd start with some pasta and garlic bread. After that I would eat some cake.

46bee6b93ee79082ea1094f26c2da5a4

(837)

on October 18, 2012
at 02:45 PM

wheat and rye toast - nom nom nom nom...

1
Da2c728c093488e4f2ea87b81619682f

on October 19, 2012
at 01:37 PM

I would SO go back to neolithic food if there were no health or metabolic consequences. To me, it's much more delicious and satisfying to eat. Then again, maybe once I've eaten paleo long enough, it will taste more delicious and SAD food will taste disgusting. But even THEN, I still might stick to the neolithic foods, because you know, they're cheaper and more readily available and it would just be soooooooooooooo much easier.

1
Bdc6244bdbd664d2168a8e326018ffbe

(431)

on October 19, 2012
at 09:18 AM

Yeah, I think I still would, but not as strictly. I would definitely eat more sugar, at least, but I get a fair amount of OCDish pleasure from eating in a way that I know is good for me, and did pre-Paleo as well. I imagine many people on this board are the same.

1
629b9895e282d0ef15b465b064100f83

on October 19, 2012
at 02:18 AM

No, I would not. Kind of like in your example, I've always been on the slender side, but even though I could eat junk food and not gain weight, I didn't even before I started following a Paleo diet because I knew that it wasn't healthy. I do have major health issues that I control by following a Paleo diet, but even if I didn't, I would not go back to eating a neolithic diet. For me, it's about achieving optimal health.

1
51047b6885c2155ea2ed9f40670a806e

on October 18, 2012
at 11:42 PM

If I could eat anything without getting sick or fat, I would choose a diet of pasta, bread, pizza, fried food, chocolate chip cookies, chocolate ice cream, more ice cream, mangoes & mango salsa with chips and a lot of mozarella, parmesan and asiago cheese.

089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on October 18, 2012
at 11:44 PM

hell yeah!! my kind of diet. i'd be eating eggplant parm every day with a side of artichoke dip and pizza.

1
089dd41b18fbb95ebb5347cded708d98

(5635)

on October 18, 2012
at 09:55 PM

i'd eat whatever i wanted if i didn't have UC and needed to control my disease with diet. i've been limited for so long in my food options and it would be awesome if i didn't have to care.

1
Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on October 18, 2012
at 09:47 AM

Theres alot more to SAD than wheat and carbs.

I think this about my answer:

I dont miss bread, its the toppings that are the good part.

Certainly not soy, vege oils or chemicals.

I dont stay up at night thinking about bland bird food like huge plates of rice or oats.

I might miss unending sweetness a little still (was something of a sweet tooth), but there again, thats an addiction, thus its a path to unending binging and dissatifaction, like drugs. Not a path to real lasting enjoyment.

I am better off either without it, or keeping it at a minimum.

So actually, my answer is no.

Id take the hypothetical miracle powers, just because a few miracle powers are always handy to have around, but I would at least not generally use them and stay paleo.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on October 18, 2012
at 10:15 AM

Hatcho miso is pretty good ;)

Bb3d1772b28c02da2426e40dfcb533f5

(5381)

on October 18, 2012
at 11:08 AM

Never heard of it, let alone tasted it

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on October 18, 2012
at 11:25 AM

sorry, meant to say that link is the first page linked to on goole search I did...

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on October 18, 2012
at 11:15 AM

1st page on google, I urge you to try some one day if you can. It's basically soybeans that are fermented in a barrel for 3 years. Result is a block of very intense umami filled goodness. Can be added to soups. I've also eaten it plain and as a garnish to many things - is top stuff. http://www.yamasa.org/acjs/network/english/newsletter/japan_guide_06.html

0
77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 20, 2012
at 12:07 AM

I've often thought "if i had to get ALL of my food from just 5 places, but no matter what it was id have a magic health spell cast on me and have perfect health in every category no matter what, what 5 places would i choose?"

i came up with these 5 1. taco bell 2. mcdonalds 3. pizza hut 4. ihop 5. 7/11

of course, I'm on day 12 pale...perhaps my tastes will change as the "real effects" kick in

0
12358894be02c2da1862ea3f4422c195

on October 18, 2012
at 06:19 PM

I'm going to take a more macro approach to this. Though I will admit to going Paleo for the health benefits, my introduction to Paleo was through sociological aspects. I believe the deleterious effects of the Neolithic diet are much more than the health of one person. I'd stay Paleo just to contribute to the downfall of the processed food industry. (Not that I'm an activist, I just think the ease of acquisition for 'edible food-like substances*' is a problem worth tackling. *with acknowledgement to Mr. Pollan.)

0
3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on October 18, 2012
at 06:01 PM

Although I disagree with your premise on slimness -- I eat according to a Paleo\Primal style because I believe it is healthy, and I am focused on being as healthy as possible. I contrast this to a vegan who is vegan because they believe hurting animals is wrong.

If it were not the healthiest way to eat, I would continue to focus on finding the healthiest way.

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