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Why am I so very hungry?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created April 13, 2013 at 9:21 AM

I have eaten over 3000 calories today and now I am fill, but seriously is this normal for a woman?? I would consider this past week I have been moderately active (working on feet 4 days and a few long hilly walks, I made it to the gym once also...) My calorie totals for this whole week have been (an average of over) 2000 daily ... so i'm NOT under eating. And my carbs have been around 120grams a day this week (except today!).

I always have a big b/f (600+cal)and my lunch and dinner are about the same size (consisting of different foods), but after dinner I always tend to pick at food, sometimes I can easily stop myself but tonight I even ate my lunch I prepared for tomorrow and a can of my BF's mountain dew (I KNOW SO UN-PALEO of me!!). My stomach is now a little over full, but not uncomfortably.

The only problem with all of this is I want to lose weight (and yes I am about 30lbs over weight)!! I feel like there is no way I can restrict myself without it leading to over-eating (rarely binging these days, but if I restrict too much I am inclined to binge) later on and hence, no weight loss!!

Do you think this is due to the fact I've dieted too much in the past?? Letting myself eat what I want actually does feel really good I must admit, but I feel like I'm gonna be the size of a house soon!!! I already have bloated up a-lot, enough for work mates to notice, from moving from 30 to 120g daily of carbs this past week.... (even on very low carb I still ended up over eating, thats why I decided to try more carbs inline with the "perfect health diet") do you think that if I just let myself eat as much as I crave right now, my body will eventually recognize that lots of food is available and stop craving so much after a while? could this be something to do with my type 1 diabetes?

I've totally had it with restricting my cals in any way + with trying to make it to the gym 3-4 times a week, when I only go home and eat even more. It just doesn't seem to work for me. I tried IF for a little while (as you might see I have asked questions about it) but I found that it was really hard to manage my type 1 diabetes with 2 huge meals so this is why I am no longer doing that.

Any advice, suggestions, personal stories etc would be greatly appreciated!

Sarah :)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on April 15, 2013
at 11:53 AM

Can't fault the diet really, step up the self-control. Mouth ≠ vacuum cleaner.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

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on April 15, 2013
at 06:40 AM

Dairy and rice both stimulate my appetite, big time.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

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on April 14, 2013
at 12:18 PM

Yes, that's the kind I take- chelated. I think PHD recommends 200 mg, so maybe take 2 a day for the first week to rebuild your system, and then scale down to 1 after that and see how you feel.

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

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on April 14, 2013
at 08:50 AM

Can I ask why you are worried about the short rise in insulin? See this: http://bit.ly/177PEPq

81feb1022a28f534867616b9316c7aa4

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on April 14, 2013
at 03:56 AM

I purchased the capsules this morning. Im not sure how much I need to take daily? The capsules are chelated and are 150mg of magnesium per capsule.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

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on April 13, 2013
at 11:39 PM

Yes, I had the twitchy eyes, too, and sometimes charley horses in my legs at night. I think most people today have a low level Mg deficiency (due to soil depletion) but some of us it may be more pronounced in. There are several ways to get your Mg. I usually rotate between these: (1) Natural Vitality "Calm" drink (will soften stools, too, so be careful!); (2) chelated Mg capsules; (3) Mg oil or gel after shower (my favorite); and (4) epsom salt baths, esp if my legs/feet are achy.

81feb1022a28f534867616b9316c7aa4

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on April 13, 2013
at 11:15 PM

This is really interesting I just did a bit of research and learnt that poorly controlled diabetes results in excessive magnesium being excreted through the urine, so I most likely have a magnesium deficiency, in other words.

81feb1022a28f534867616b9316c7aa4

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on April 13, 2013
at 10:34 PM

Thanks Brian! Im always aiming to get more water down, but never happens. Right now Im going to go have half a bottle :)

81feb1022a28f534867616b9316c7aa4

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on April 13, 2013
at 10:32 PM

Thanks RK. That makes me feel a little better. I may buy some magnesium supplements.. actually I've heard that twitching eyes and cramps are related to magnesium both of which I suffer from alot. And I have heard that you can lose magnesium via sweat (i sweat alot when i exercise) so i wonder if this is true?

81feb1022a28f534867616b9316c7aa4

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on April 13, 2013
at 10:30 PM

Mostly all very healthy and paleo approved foods... Eggs, cream, sweet potato, tomato, rice, avocado, butter, pork, cabbage, brussels sprouts, mixed vegetables, a dark chocolate bar, a yoghurt. I have been aiming for 20% carbs, 18% protein and 62% fat.. but yesterday was about 50% carbs after all that.

81feb1022a28f534867616b9316c7aa4

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on April 13, 2013
at 10:26 PM

Thanks Marsh, I have read the perfect health diet book, which is why I upped my carb intake, but this is problematic for me as more carbs=more insulin and also more blood sugar variabiality. I am really torn between keeping carbs up at 100g and dropping them back down to below 50g, as less than 50g my diabetes is much easier to manage. But I still end up over-eating :( Any suggestions?

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

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on April 13, 2013
at 04:13 PM

A great place to start would be the supplement page at the Perfect Health Diet. http://perfecthealthdiet.com/recommended-supplements/

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on April 13, 2013
at 01:29 PM

How much protein are you getting?

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Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

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on April 13, 2013
at 11:38 AM

I know I repeat this same quote over and over, but it really is useful:

What I recommend is that you need to be very well nourished in order to lose weight... Hunger is the brain's understanding that you are malnourished and you need food in order to be healthy and function properly. Our brain evolved all these mechanisms for detecting that you need food. The brain is usually not making a mistake, and so if you are getting hungry then there is something that you need that you are not giving yourself. It's worth your while to try to figure out what that is. So if you are supplying everything you need, and the only thing you are missing is a little bit of fat which is already present in adipose tissue, then your brain wont feel hungry it will just say "all right take that fat out of the adipose tissue; you know release it from our fat cells, and we will use it there and we will have everything we need.". Paul Jaminet. The Perfect Health Diet.

Have look through your what you are eating and in what proportion and aim for the highest nutrition you can in your choices, you may also need to supplement.

Also it is not a bad thing to feel hungry at times, and by 'hungry' I mean slight discomfort, not a feeling that is overwhelming and distracting but rather one which goes away easily when you are busy etc. Simply the feeling people have when they fast through breakfast for example.

Although if you go from eating a large breakfast every day to doing IF you tend to be pretty hungry at the time of day you normally ate. This might not be related to nourishment as Paul is saying, but rather other factors like habit, expectation, etc.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 13, 2013
at 04:13 PM

A great place to start would be the supplement page at the Perfect Health Diet. http://perfecthealthdiet.com/recommended-supplements/

81feb1022a28f534867616b9316c7aa4

(638)

on April 13, 2013
at 10:26 PM

Thanks Marsh, I have read the perfect health diet book, which is why I upped my carb intake, but this is problematic for me as more carbs=more insulin and also more blood sugar variabiality. I am really torn between keeping carbs up at 100g and dropping them back down to below 50g, as less than 50g my diabetes is much easier to manage. But I still end up over-eating :( Any suggestions?

Ca2c940a1947e6200883908592956680

(8574)

on April 14, 2013
at 08:50 AM

Can I ask why you are worried about the short rise in insulin? See this: http://bit.ly/177PEPq

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9a5e2da94ad63ea3186dfa494e16a8d1

on April 13, 2013
at 05:14 PM

Some foods cause me to be hungry relatively soon afterwards, and I don't think it has anything to do with calories. If I have a starchy or sugary breakfast for example, I am always hungry about 2.0-2.5 hours later, even if it was a lot of calories. The same is true to a lesser extent at other times of the day. If I have a meal consisting primarily of starch without much protein or fat, I always get the munchies later.

I am not sure if this is an insulin response thing or just how my body processes carbs but I have found that going easy on the carbs (not necessarily low carb, just keeping them in check) reduces my appetite so that I feel full with less food. I am also better able to delay or skip meals, since when I get hungry, it's a casual sort of "I could eat if I feel like it" hunger, rather than the "oh my god I'm dying" hunger which I get a few hours after starchy food.

Sticking to meat, eggs, vegetables, fruits and the occasional nuts, I'm more satisfied quicker and can't eat as much at once. Sometimes if I'm working out a lot I will still be a little hungry after a meal but unable to eat a lot more, in which case I just eat again 1-2 hours later.

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on April 13, 2013
at 04:23 PM

I normally have a gigantic appetite too; however, I'm also fairly active to support it. The program I use (Cronometer), tells me my calories should be around 1600 to lose weight (based on losing 2 Lbs per week), yet that never happens. I'm always well over 2000.

What I do find though is the days that I don't drink enough water, I tend to eat more. Water is a great filler, and we should be drinking at least 2L a day (more if your active).

Try this, when you wake up, slam down a couple of full glasses of water. Aim to have 1L drank by lunch, and the 2L by dinner time. That may suppress your appetite.

81feb1022a28f534867616b9316c7aa4

(638)

on April 13, 2013
at 10:34 PM

Thanks Brian! Im always aiming to get more water down, but never happens. Right now Im going to go have half a bottle :)

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on April 13, 2013
at 01:04 PM

What exactly did you eat?

81feb1022a28f534867616b9316c7aa4

(638)

on April 13, 2013
at 10:30 PM

Mostly all very healthy and paleo approved foods... Eggs, cream, sweet potato, tomato, rice, avocado, butter, pork, cabbage, brussels sprouts, mixed vegetables, a dark chocolate bar, a yoghurt. I have been aiming for 20% carbs, 18% protein and 62% fat.. but yesterday was about 50% carbs after all that.

Fb67dc30cead043d1d13ea503a3044dc

(3280)

on April 15, 2013
at 06:40 AM

Dairy and rice both stimulate my appetite, big time.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on April 15, 2013
at 11:53 AM

Can't fault the diet really, step up the self-control. Mouth ≠ vacuum cleaner.

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32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 13, 2013
at 04:16 PM

Sarah, I've always had a huge appetite for a girl too. When I was a teen I could eat an entire large pizza by myself and not even feel full! When I first started paleo I was eating 3000+ cals a day. However, I was losing weight too. (I started at 5'5", 190lb, lost 30lb pretty quickly). Eventually my appetite did start to go down. I am still toying with supplements (about to try the PHD recs that I posted in the comment above: http://perfecthealthdiet.com/recommended-supplements/). However, one big one for me was MAGNESIUM. When I take it, my appetite goes down, and my mood goes up.

81feb1022a28f534867616b9316c7aa4

(638)

on April 13, 2013
at 10:32 PM

Thanks RK. That makes me feel a little better. I may buy some magnesium supplements.. actually I've heard that twitching eyes and cramps are related to magnesium both of which I suffer from alot. And I have heard that you can lose magnesium via sweat (i sweat alot when i exercise) so i wonder if this is true?

81feb1022a28f534867616b9316c7aa4

(638)

on April 14, 2013
at 03:56 AM

I purchased the capsules this morning. Im not sure how much I need to take daily? The capsules are chelated and are 150mg of magnesium per capsule.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 13, 2013
at 11:39 PM

Yes, I had the twitchy eyes, too, and sometimes charley horses in my legs at night. I think most people today have a low level Mg deficiency (due to soil depletion) but some of us it may be more pronounced in. There are several ways to get your Mg. I usually rotate between these: (1) Natural Vitality "Calm" drink (will soften stools, too, so be careful!); (2) chelated Mg capsules; (3) Mg oil or gel after shower (my favorite); and (4) epsom salt baths, esp if my legs/feet are achy.

81feb1022a28f534867616b9316c7aa4

(638)

on April 13, 2013
at 11:15 PM

This is really interesting I just did a bit of research and learnt that poorly controlled diabetes results in excessive magnesium being excreted through the urine, so I most likely have a magnesium deficiency, in other words.

32652cb696b75182cb121009ee4edea3

(5802)

on April 14, 2013
at 12:18 PM

Yes, that's the kind I take- chelated. I think PHD recommends 200 mg, so maybe take 2 a day for the first week to rebuild your system, and then scale down to 1 after that and see how you feel.

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