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Ravenous paleo Girl

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM

So everything I read on the many paleo/ primal blogs I read on a daily basis suggest that hunger minimizes or isnt an issue. I eat massive portions of fats, meats, veggies, and nuts, but still feel hungry, I havent gained a lot of weight, but also haven't lost any. This ravenous feeling, does it go away? I feel like I out-eat my husband, and eat more than I ever had before. I work out probably 2x a week and have a job that keeps me moving and on my feet. Please help, I feel like I could finish a whole side of beef at any given time. Ok so more info been paleo for a month so far, I eat about three eggs with a half avocado or nitrate free sausages for breakfast or bacon, at work I pack a snack of almonds or recently kale chips, than lunch is usually leftovers or a salad that fills a ten inch dinner plate, another snack of usually avocado or almond butter with celery.. Followed by dinner of meat 4-to 8 ounces.. Tons of veggies to back it up and it's usually cooked in coconut oil or bacon fat..and usually a late night snack of almond butter or bacon.. Recently got off a diet of counting calories I was doing 1400 a day to 1500 if I was planning a run that day..

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on February 15, 2012
at 07:12 PM

Thanks to both the person who said the comment about eggs and the coffee with coconut oil, stopped eating eggs for breakfast everyday and adding a little coconut oil to my cup of coffee and the ravenous hunger has subsided a little bit.. Well atleast I don't feel like I could eat a whole side of cow...

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(1784)

on February 12, 2012
at 02:23 AM

eggs definitely are not filling, and they induce hunger in me rather quickly.... I, too, thought it was just me...

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on February 12, 2012
at 12:38 AM

Go easy at first on the coconut oil, work your way up, otherwise you'll get the trots.

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(11698)

on February 11, 2012
at 08:53 PM

Tatiana, what's your age, weight and height.

E790d23eb95b04bdcdf926c6d0b6d9a5

on February 11, 2012
at 08:00 PM

Just tried the coconut oil, unsweetened cocoa powder coffee mix, Thank you that's awesome, it's reminiscent of hot chocolate, I added a little unsweetened coconut milk to it... Now let's see if it staves off me attacking my fridge for the rest of afternoon.

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on February 11, 2012
at 04:29 PM

I think I have the same thing with eggs, but never realized it until I just read this. I guess I need to start trying meat for breakfast!

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on February 11, 2012
at 04:24 PM

@Tatiana, I know you can't add a comment here yet, but if you click on "edit" in your question I think you can add info there.

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(18635)

on February 11, 2012
at 03:22 PM

Agreed...listing a day of food would be a good start.

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on February 11, 2012
at 02:21 PM

I definitely sympathize but you've got to provide more info. How long have you been paleo? What was your diet like before and what is your history of dieting? I feel like my history of experimenting with low-carb and a lot of other diets where I lost and re-gained dozens, maybe a hundred pounds, influenced my success on on paleo (and still does).

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 11, 2012
at 04:22 PM

Hi, Tatiana! There are at least 5 possible causes for ravenous hunger: withdrawal symptoms (from processed foods), incomplete nutrition (a deficiency of some sort), emotional eating (eating for comfort/sedation), reaction to a specific food or just plain physical hunger.

I'll start with the easiest one: physical hunger. If you're very active and haven't gained weight from eating "ravenously" you may just have needed the food and have been optimizing your system reserves. If so, that should subside somewhat although you're likely to have a robust appetite to match your activity.

If you've been paleo for a month or more withdrawal symptoms should be done (unless you cheated at some point) so it's more likely to be emotional eating. The easy way to judge that is to open the door of the fridge--if you want "something" but it's not the healthy paleo food you currently have in the fridge then it's emotional eating and you need to just get away from food and try to distract your impulse with physical/mental activity. Many of us have deeply reinforced habits of turning to food to stabilize our emotions or to relieve boredom.

It could be a reaction to a specific food--and it doesn't have to be an intolerance. My example is eggs, which I love. If I have beef for breakfast, I may not be hungry until the next day if it's a large portion. However, if I have 3 or 4 eggs with the same portion of beef I will be starving a couple hours later. I don't know why eggs stimulate my appetite so much, but I've tested it enough to know it's so and I just have to ignore the urge if I don't want to eat any more that day. If I do give in, I eat only protein/fat so I don't compound the problem.

Have fun figuring out what's up! If you let it become a source of stress, that won't work well for you so think of it as a fun science experiment.

6b365c14c646462210f3ef6b6fecace1

(1784)

on February 12, 2012
at 02:23 AM

eggs definitely are not filling, and they induce hunger in me rather quickly.... I, too, thought it was just me...

9e5b3e9fd59028b4138da4861cc24b7b

on February 11, 2012
at 04:29 PM

I think I have the same thing with eggs, but never realized it until I just read this. I guess I need to start trying meat for breakfast!

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96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on February 11, 2012
at 06:48 PM

Hint: coconut oil, coffee, and L-Glutamine are all appetite suppressants. Since you say you're eating plenty of good fats and proteins, I'd suspect that you're craving carbs. These things will suppress carb cravings, especially when the 1st month is a harsh transition to low carb. (I'm assuming you're trying for Very Low Carb based on what you say.)

What I do: mix in about a tablespoon of virgin coconut oil with a teaspoon or two of cocoa powder, then pour hot coffee over it. The L-Glutamine, just take 1/8th to 1/4th a teaspoon whenever you crave something sweet. You can also mix it in the coffee. Go easy on the coffee itself, since too much can cause adrenal issues which would lead to blocking fat loss.

This might be hard, but try working out fasted, and don't eat for at least 1hr after the work out. This will allow for autophagy which is very beneficial. (And of course will help get you into ketosis faster.) If you've had a particularly hard workout, by all means do eat some carbs after it, say half a roasted sweet potato or yam, just enough to refill your glycogen stores.

BCAAs can help if you do IF, but that's much later on.

Also, fat does very strange things, so don't bother looking at the scale, not unless you get one that measures percentage of body fat, water, muscle, and bone, and even these are not very accurate. (I have a bowflex one, but there are others, some cheaper than others. Mine usually will tell me I weigh 5lbs more than I actually do vs other scales, so I only use it as a relative measure to the past measurements. i.e. the week before, and the week before that. Please don't take this as a recommendation for that particular model, as I'm not especially happy with it, but like anything else, it's just a tool.)

Read this article for more details. There seems to be some sort of thing where fat hangs on to water, so it retains its shape/weight for a long time, and then almost overnight lets go and you drop 3-4lbs.

A tape measure is a better measure than a normal scale.

Plus 30 days is a very short time, just enough to get over sugar cravings in most but not all people. You might have noticed some weight loss from water, mostly because if you go from high carb to low carb, glycogen tend to have us retain water.

Eric's suggestion to eat protein in the morning, and carbs at night is a great one, and falls under Dr. Jack Kruse's Leptin Reset Protocol. Don't even think about starting IF until you get that done. :)

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19413)

on February 12, 2012
at 12:38 AM

Go easy at first on the coconut oil, work your way up, otherwise you'll get the trots.

E790d23eb95b04bdcdf926c6d0b6d9a5

on February 11, 2012
at 08:00 PM

Just tried the coconut oil, unsweetened cocoa powder coffee mix, Thank you that's awesome, it's reminiscent of hot chocolate, I added a little unsweetened coconut milk to it... Now let's see if it staves off me attacking my fridge for the rest of afternoon.

E790d23eb95b04bdcdf926c6d0b6d9a5

on February 15, 2012
at 07:12 PM

Thanks to both the person who said the comment about eggs and the coffee with coconut oil, stopped eating eggs for breakfast everyday and adding a little coconut oil to my cup of coffee and the ravenous hunger has subsided a little bit.. Well atleast I don't feel like I could eat a whole side of cow...

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on February 11, 2012
at 04:49 PM

Try eating eggs or meat for breakfast. Eat a big lunch and save your carbs for dinner.

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