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How did Grok self-obsess?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created March 07, 2010 at 9:28 PM

Without the internet, and with only his extended family around to converse with, how did Grok self-obsess?

I'm thinking his extended family would have little patience for his idle hypothesizing and ruminating over esoteric minutia - elders would probably roll their eyes and make jokes at his expense, while children threw their half-gnawed bones at him. So how did he find other people to help him determine the latest detail to obsess over as he rams into the diminishing marginal returns of the last 2% of his chosen compulsion?

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on October 07, 2010
at 04:07 PM

I just thought it was funny. Funny gets an up-vote from me - every time.

5740abb0fa033403978dd988b0609dfd

(2633)

on March 27, 2010
at 03:21 PM

Either that or we need to find jobs :-)

0fb8b3d6dcfb279b0f7e050d2d22510f

(4645)

on March 27, 2010
at 01:27 AM

I agree with the sentiment and the tone is not a problem. Without seeing one's face, typed words will be as hash as the readers.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 18, 2010
at 02:54 AM

You just said a mouthful there Paleo Dave.

5740abb0fa033403978dd988b0609dfd

(2633)

on March 08, 2010
at 10:16 PM

Alex, while I agree with the sentiment, I think your tone is uncalled for.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 08, 2010
at 09:18 PM

BTW upvoted all of your comments, and added this as a question on PaleoHacks. http://paleohacks.com/questions/1628/should-the-grok-be-dropped

95ab15c8ef50ff0daf87ccbdd52cd3b8

(2384)

on March 08, 2010
at 09:07 PM

Dude, I think you might need to chill a bit. I think it's a fun and harmless shorthand. Is it really necessary to throw attitude around like you're the second coming of Lyle McDonald or something?

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 08, 2010
at 09:02 PM

@Alex -- I am not a huge fan of the "Grok" thing either, however, as AllTooHuman points out, it is simple, catchy verbal shorthand.

Medium avatar

(7073)

on March 08, 2010
at 07:08 PM

and there are definitely some people around today who are totally into paleo re-enactment, mentally, spiritually, and emotionally.

E258d3ab9815cad55f90ae462b85c1cf

(362)

on March 08, 2010
at 06:46 PM

I have to admit that having come to this site from PaNu (and not knowing anything about Sisson) the whole Grok thing still throws me for a bit of a loop. I'm more interested in what the human metabolism seems built to do than any form or primal, tribal re-enactment. I think I've come to understand the Grok thing as a bit of a metaphor, and while it does strike a more romantic and less than scientific tone in my ear as well, I just accept it for what it is: a bit of verbal shorthand as a means to an end.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 08, 2010
at 05:45 PM

Nice! I like it!.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 07, 2010
at 11:04 PM

PS I am voting this up!.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 07, 2010
at 11:04 PM

I love it. A thinly veiled poke at PaleoHacks itself! LMAO!

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Ae28731844f0586adac80247c4265d75

on March 07, 2010
at 09:43 PM

I'm not quite sure. But I can almost 100% guarantee that Grok didn't do dairy. Maybe.

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E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on March 08, 2010
at 11:33 AM

Sheesh, why would we bother about precisely how much 'Grok' self-obsessed?

The real issue is what would happen if we ran a controlled, randomised, double-blind trial testing varying degrees of self-obsession! Blinding it would be hard though, does any-one have any epidemiological data on this?

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 08, 2010
at 05:45 PM

Nice! I like it!.

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4c8a9bec5a27b66b28d3c5cddeb70e93

on March 07, 2010
at 10:32 PM

I like Art De Vany's idea that a modern day mathematician hunting for an equation in a mathematical solution is just using brain circuits evolved for hunting prey. Our most obsessive traits, and curiosity would have all been in full effect out on the savannah when obtaining food for or protecting our family.

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5cd18bfcafadc56292971e59f2f1faf6

on March 08, 2010
at 01:51 AM

Haha, great question.

I would guess that he spent a lot of time obsessing over how his actions affect things completely out of his control. "Hey, maybe this hunt isn't going well because I didn't properly respect my game last time. Maybe if I draw some stuff on this cave wall." We're pretty much the same -- we just think we're enlightened.

The funny thing is that a lot of us are initially attracted to Paleo because of the simplicity of the "naked with a sharp stick" diet plan. Eventually that devolves into pill cases full of vitamin supplements and worries about things like nightshades. I'm as guilty as anyone.

To obsess over minutia is to be human.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 18, 2010
at 02:54 AM

You just said a mouthful there Paleo Dave.

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587538a2db229b2ec884ea04cc3dc75e

(462)

on March 08, 2010
at 06:34 PM

Can we all make an effort to leave the whole Grok bullshit off of this website and on Sisson's forum where it belongs? I am not knocking Mark at all, I just find the whole Grok thing very grating - it is romantic primitivism of the worst kind and frankly pretty stupid. And before the internet people obsessed about the same crap they obsess about now: mates, livelihood and status.

E258d3ab9815cad55f90ae462b85c1cf

(362)

on March 08, 2010
at 06:46 PM

I have to admit that having come to this site from PaNu (and not knowing anything about Sisson) the whole Grok thing still throws me for a bit of a loop. I'm more interested in what the human metabolism seems built to do than any form or primal, tribal re-enactment. I think I've come to understand the Grok thing as a bit of a metaphor, and while it does strike a more romantic and less than scientific tone in my ear as well, I just accept it for what it is: a bit of verbal shorthand as a means to an end.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 08, 2010
at 09:02 PM

@Alex -- I am not a huge fan of the "Grok" thing either, however, as AllTooHuman points out, it is simple, catchy verbal shorthand.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on March 08, 2010
at 09:18 PM

BTW upvoted all of your comments, and added this as a question on PaleoHacks. http://paleohacks.com/questions/1628/should-the-grok-be-dropped

5740abb0fa033403978dd988b0609dfd

(2633)

on March 08, 2010
at 10:16 PM

Alex, while I agree with the sentiment, I think your tone is uncalled for.

95ab15c8ef50ff0daf87ccbdd52cd3b8

(2384)

on March 08, 2010
at 09:07 PM

Dude, I think you might need to chill a bit. I think it's a fun and harmless shorthand. Is it really necessary to throw attitude around like you're the second coming of Lyle McDonald or something?

Medium avatar

(7073)

on March 08, 2010
at 07:08 PM

and there are definitely some people around today who are totally into paleo re-enactment, mentally, spiritually, and emotionally.

0fb8b3d6dcfb279b0f7e050d2d22510f

(4645)

on March 27, 2010
at 01:27 AM

I agree with the sentiment and the tone is not a problem. Without seeing one's face, typed words will be as hash as the readers.

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on October 07, 2010
at 04:07 PM

I just thought it was funny. Funny gets an up-vote from me - every time.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 08, 2010
at 01:02 AM

Without internet, he must have had a terrible time! No-one to bounce ideas off, decide whether or not to try the damn grass seed as an alternate food when mastadons were in short supply. Poor bugger.

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89e238284ccb95b439edcff9e123671e

(10299)

on March 08, 2010
at 03:27 PM

We obsess because we can...

likewise: we have bad eating habits because we can... we have bad physical condition because we can... we have bad posture because we can...

Our motives and behaviour have always been restrained by the environment. Now change the environment, and some motives or behaviour patterns will be 'unbalanced'.

We ??re our ancestors.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 27, 2010
at 01:17 PM

the people with the most reputation points are the most paleo-obsessive (just trying to make myself feel better for being lazy).

5740abb0fa033403978dd988b0609dfd

(2633)

on March 27, 2010
at 03:21 PM

Either that or we need to find jobs :-)

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21c7c64bab83c19bae4786e623394ece

(260)

on March 26, 2010
at 06:03 PM

In all seriousness, did he perhaps self-obsess why he wasn't as big/muscled as the other member of the clan? Or why he was more hairy then the other fellow, or why that pretty hairy lady slept by his friend's fire and not his...

Not over food...but I'm quite sure he self-obsessed

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E91fd339d760ed76cc72570a679ebf5a

(2369)

on March 07, 2010
at 10:32 PM

I have been obsessed with figuring out the answer to this question ;-)

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Fcaeaac15cf6568f2825b230731d5a7d

(529)

on March 07, 2010
at 10:04 PM

He planted some seeds.

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710a2d86803b176778ce7db770944bb7

(626)

on December 17, 2010
at 07:57 PM

I think this question is

a) just awesome

b) does a very clever job of pointing out the fact that probably the one thing most really healthy food cultures have in common IS NOT WORRYING ABOUT WHAT THEY EAT EVERY SECOND/i.e. actually living their life and enjoying their food.

I love walking into restaurants with the girl I'm currently dating. She grew up on a farm in a third world country before coming to the US at ten. She has a great body and eats like a horse (not paleo exactly, but avoids most processed stuff, likes the natural stuff she grew up on...i.e. used to drink milk straight out of the udder, etc.) and really enjoys her food. All the waifish white girls eating rice-cakes look like they want to murder her. Love it.

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