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New Wave Hypothyroidism Featuring Dr. Jack Kruse

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 20, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Dr.K or anyone that feels competent please comment on the latest blog post by Danny Roddy:

New Wave Hypothyroidism Featuring Dr. Jack Kruse

http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2012/2/20/new-wave-hypothyroidism-featuring-dr-jack-kruse.html

I am very interested to start a discussion about hormones as it related to diet and where Dr.K and Peat intersect and differ on these topics.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on March 03, 2012
at 01:40 AM

All markers of inflammation are lowered. People just want to be h8trs with the leptin reset.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on March 03, 2012
at 01:38 AM

Well, Nmaby Pamby, it seems like your autoimmune disorder is also affecting your mood. Of course I visited a doc and have all the proper tests each time. She says I don't have to come back anymore.

80890193d74240cab6dda920665bfb6c

(1528)

on February 27, 2012
at 06:06 AM

Quilty, I'm all down with Aubrey de Grey. If we can make another 30, death may be purely optional.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on February 23, 2012
at 07:31 PM

It would be an added bonus it your proof actually supported your claims.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on February 23, 2012
at 07:31 PM

It would be an added bonus it your proof actually supported your claims too.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5152)

on February 23, 2012
at 03:07 PM

Well, did you not get retested for the antibodies: I mean TPO/TG, SSB/SSA, Double Strand, etc. Rheumies will test every time you visit. So ur saying u fixed it because u don't seem to have any more symptoms (inflammation)? how're your inflammation markers like CRP, ESR or Sed Rate, then?

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on February 23, 2012
at 07:41 AM

great, maybe this time you can actually footnote to some actual evidence

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on February 23, 2012
at 12:48 AM

you would.......but i got lots of proof coming

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 23, 2012
at 12:05 AM

..personally, I think it was mostly just the wheat

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 23, 2012
at 12:05 AM

I haven't been tested for the full group since the original dx (lupus), but I had + thyroid and SSB. I get tested every once in awhile, mostly for RA-related factors or others like dsDNA that run with huge problems, but I have no symptoms of inflammation any more.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on February 22, 2012
at 09:54 PM

I find the idea that homo sapiens are a cold-adapted species forged in the ice age absurd. I know Gedgaudas also promotes it. But genome scans for recent adaptations show that those for cold weather and arctic environments are very recent and not terribly well distributed in the human population.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on February 22, 2012
at 07:07 PM

You'll be sure soon what I think and more familiar what I know now.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5152)

on February 22, 2012
at 03:13 PM

Hey, Loon, you claim to have gotten rid of autoimmunity through low carbing. Wanna provide more details? What do you mean by that? Were you actually dxed with SSA or SSB? You are no longer positive for either SSA or SSB? Or is your # not elevated. Or do you mean u don't have symptoms anymore? I barely have any symptoms if I stick to hardcore Paleo (gluten/casein/dairy/egg/nut/nightshade free). But I'm still positive for SSA.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 22, 2012
at 06:40 AM

jrac, that is a poor excuse for not doing the right homework. There is plenty of real stuff to challenge what Kruse writes. Why waste time on the stupid stuff?

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 22, 2012
at 06:37 AM

hey, if you are going to slam someone, you should at least read a paragraph of his work first, not just a sentence.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 21, 2012
at 02:29 PM

And that is not a dig on either of them. Simply an observation.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 21, 2012
at 02:27 PM

I actually find their writing styles to be quite similar...

D12142c8cafb16d9af10b3362cb8fb62

(1590)

on February 21, 2012
at 08:44 AM

Maybe if Kruse could write in English and not just make stuff up then more people would read his work.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 21, 2012
at 02:09 AM

How many carbs do you think would be a decent amount for someone just starting to diet?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 21, 2012
at 01:58 AM

Dunno Namby....Did you ever read that book from your other thread by Kharrazian? Was just curious if you got some info out. Seems to me that there are a variety of factors that you have to consider and not all the anwers are just "add more carbs". At least that isn't what I got out of his approach.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5152)

on February 21, 2012
at 01:44 AM

Nah, I'm thinking that it's not just hypothyroidism but autoimmunity in general. Consider that HT is mostly autoimmune to begin with. If VLCing ignites HT, then it's possible that other autoimmune conditions could piggyback. Sjogren's, RA, SLE, MS, etc. If you believe in leaky gut, then it's also very possible that VLCing could somehow be involved. For many patients, HT and psoriases are the first autoimmune conditions they contract -- then they move onto more serious conditions.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 21, 2012
at 01:35 AM

Namby, I think you are right about the lowcarbdiet and thyroid connection, but I think it is much worse for people on a typical reducing diet. I personally think it is the thyroid/hormonal disruption that causes the issues that lead to people trying various types of reducing diets. Any kind of reducing diet can take down your thyroid under the "right" conditions.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 21, 2012
at 01:32 AM

interesting. I got rid of Sjogren's through low carb.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on February 21, 2012
at 12:06 AM

I should add that I've been breastfeeding for 15 months so it probably was silly of me to stay low Carb for so long.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on February 21, 2012
at 12:03 AM

I already eat brazil nuts and I always ate plenty of offal And shellfish.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5152)

on February 20, 2012
at 11:55 PM

only discussed hypothyroidism. Constipation is an epidemic among VLCers and the boards are full of people asking how to alleviate constipation. Dr. B himself has no answers for constipation. He's also not a "Paleo" so does not see the merit of being gluten-free or organic. Some people undoubtedly do well with VLC. However, I suspect many people will encounter complications and possibly worse afflictions than simple diabetes down the road. It is truly unfortunate.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5152)

on February 20, 2012
at 11:51 PM

I can guarantee you, neither Dr. B nor his devotees have any inkling of the possible thyroid and hormonal complications with their VLCing. If they did, (i) Dr. B would not be broadcasting his ignorance of the phenomenon possibly stemming from the very method he preaches; and (ii) his forums would at least discuss the issue from those afflicted with the problem. The one-size fits all VLCing does not work. When I succeeded with my weight loss and BG control, I thought the issue was strictly due to lack of implementation (read: discipline and dedication). That's absolutely true. So far we've

C00e493393828df34be65ddc25456c7c

(610)

on February 20, 2012
at 11:44 PM

Since adding the carbs was able to lose 20 pounds. Don't know if the selenium in the brazil nuts would have did the same.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 20, 2012
at 11:35 PM

You should have tried brazil nuts first...

5a506bcfafe352e8fe11ebac285aa3e4

on February 20, 2012
at 09:45 PM

I had sky high tsh, thinning hair, 300+ cholesteral and a fat, puffy face after 2 years of paleo/LC. Doc wanted to put me on synthroid. Been following Danny Roddy's Peat diet and my hair has grown back, tsh and body temperatures are back in normal range.

7c2b34b8626dc30e40567283c4ad1e1c

(686)

on February 20, 2012
at 08:46 PM

Thanks for your opinion JayJay. My experience, coaching others, along with the work of Dr. Peat suggests otherwise.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 20, 2012
at 08:26 PM

Dr. Bernsteins diet plan seemed pretty sensible for a diabetic. Perhaps adding in some extra selenium and iodine+ carbs once a week would work well.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 20, 2012
at 07:43 PM

Let me put it another way as I am really not a "follower" of either PHD or Peat's. In general 70bpm pulse rate outside of other factors being considered is not indicative of a thyroid problem. My resting HR is 58 and by itself won't tell you anything about my thyroid health. I do think that working hard to increase your resting pulse rate far above 70 is a bad idea in general.

7c2b34b8626dc30e40567283c4ad1e1c

(686)

on February 20, 2012
at 07:35 PM

I respond to that comment in this article JayJay: http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2012/2/13/why-thyroid-is-so-important-a-response-to-dr-paul-jaminet.html Basically, any physiology book would disagree with Jaminet about what you just quoted. Cliff pointed out that those effects were transient.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 20, 2012
at 07:11 PM

"One of the effects of adrenaline and noradrenaline is to speed up the pulse rate. If Peat really does eat 400 g of carbs per day, predominantly from sucrose, then he may be achieving his high pulse rate from an “adrenaline rush” that helps dispose of an excess of fructose......" Jaminet's blog. Like I said quite a few other factors to consider, but a resting pulse of 70 doesn't in and of itself isn't an issue.

7c2b34b8626dc30e40567283c4ad1e1c

(686)

on February 20, 2012
at 06:52 PM

Pulse can be influenced by stress hormones as well. The way to tell is monitoring pulse before and after breakfast. If it falls after breakfast it may be suggestive of high adrenaline/cortisol. High pulse indicative of "detox"?

7c2b34b8626dc30e40567283c4ad1e1c

(686)

on February 20, 2012
at 06:46 PM

Yup. 1 quote and 1 symptom suggestive of complete hormonal disarray.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 20, 2012
at 06:33 PM

Pulse around 70 isn't alone a sign of thyroid problem....and like Jaminet points out aiming for a super high pulse isn't exactly healthy and may be more indicative of detoxing....not that is what is happening in your case. Just pointing it out.

76f3ead3aa977d876bcf3331d35a36e9

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on February 20, 2012
at 06:31 PM

+9000. My highest rating ever.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on February 20, 2012
at 04:01 PM

Kind of a silly article : he judges Dr. Kruse based on 1 quote...

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3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

on February 20, 2012
at 04:59 PM

Probably a new wave of hypothyroidism is among diabetics who do low-carbing to combat diabetes. Dr. Bernstein, who promotes doing no more than 40g of carbs per day, claims that fully 80% of his patients are hypothyroid and nearly all of them have one or more autoimmune diseases (since hypothyroidism is mostly autoimmune, that would be Hashimoto's; the other autoimmune condition is psoriasis). He's made several claims of this during his telecasts: hypothyroidism among his patients is an "epidemic", his exact words.

However, he doesn't seem to make a connection between his low-carb diabetes treatment method and hypothyroidism. In other words, are patients showing up at Dr. B's door from pre-existing hypothyroidism? Or do they become hypothyroid because of his low-carb (and frequently ketogenic) method. I suspect the latter.

I had hypothyroid symptoms that did not show up in lab tests (TSH <1, Free T4=1.2, Free T3=3.0) when I started low-carbing. They gradually got worse and my body temp was frequently under <96 and my fingers were ice cold. After I added ~200g of carbs from safe starches, my temp went up to ~97.5. I'm still trying to make that go up to 98. My pulse however is still low: around 70. (But I didn't realize this was a hypothryoid symptom.)

As for blood sugar control, I recently tested 5.3 HbA1c, the lowest ever. My range before was 5.4 - 5.8 while doing 75g of carbs, which made me automatically ketogenic. Safe starches and exercising can definitely control your BG, while eating a moderate amount of carbs. Not every diabetic can do this but you have to understand that BG control is counterintuitive: eating safe starches makes you more insulin-sensitive. Those who were diagnosed relatively early can in many cases control their BG better with moderate-carb Paleo than with the ketogenic low carbing that Dr. Bernstein preaches.

Edit: I believe not only did VLCing promote symptomatic hypothyroidism in my case but also caused another autoimmune disease: Sjogren's. The timing is all very strange. 3 months after I started VLCing and lost 60 lbs. I was hit with an autoimmune marker. 3 months later when I wast still VLCing, I was hit with vicious dry eye and dry throat cases, all typical of Sjogren's. It could be a coincidence, but I have to agree with Matt Stone here. VLCing did a tremendous good and I lost my weight and gained BG control; however, 3-6 months down the road, I was hit with all kinds of hormonal, thyroid, and autoimmune complications that I'm still contending with.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 20, 2012
at 07:43 PM

Let me put it another way as I am really not a "follower" of either PHD or Peat's. In general 70bpm pulse rate outside of other factors being considered is not indicative of a thyroid problem. My resting HR is 58 and by itself won't tell you anything about my thyroid health. I do think that working hard to increase your resting pulse rate far above 70 is a bad idea in general.

5a506bcfafe352e8fe11ebac285aa3e4

on February 20, 2012
at 09:45 PM

I had sky high tsh, thinning hair, 300+ cholesteral and a fat, puffy face after 2 years of paleo/LC. Doc wanted to put me on synthroid. Been following Danny Roddy's Peat diet and my hair has grown back, tsh and body temperatures are back in normal range.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 21, 2012
at 01:58 AM

Dunno Namby....Did you ever read that book from your other thread by Kharrazian? Was just curious if you got some info out. Seems to me that there are a variety of factors that you have to consider and not all the anwers are just "add more carbs". At least that isn't what I got out of his approach.

7c2b34b8626dc30e40567283c4ad1e1c

(686)

on February 20, 2012
at 06:52 PM

Pulse can be influenced by stress hormones as well. The way to tell is monitoring pulse before and after breakfast. If it falls after breakfast it may be suggestive of high adrenaline/cortisol. High pulse indicative of "detox"?

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 20, 2012
at 08:26 PM

Dr. Bernsteins diet plan seemed pretty sensible for a diabetic. Perhaps adding in some extra selenium and iodine+ carbs once a week would work well.

76f3ead3aa977d876bcf3331d35a36e9

(4620)

on February 20, 2012
at 06:31 PM

+9000. My highest rating ever.

7c2b34b8626dc30e40567283c4ad1e1c

(686)

on February 20, 2012
at 07:35 PM

I respond to that comment in this article JayJay: http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2012/2/13/why-thyroid-is-so-important-a-response-to-dr-paul-jaminet.html Basically, any physiology book would disagree with Jaminet about what you just quoted. Cliff pointed out that those effects were transient.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 20, 2012
at 06:33 PM

Pulse around 70 isn't alone a sign of thyroid problem....and like Jaminet points out aiming for a super high pulse isn't exactly healthy and may be more indicative of detoxing....not that is what is happening in your case. Just pointing it out.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 21, 2012
at 01:35 AM

Namby, I think you are right about the lowcarbdiet and thyroid connection, but I think it is much worse for people on a typical reducing diet. I personally think it is the thyroid/hormonal disruption that causes the issues that lead to people trying various types of reducing diets. Any kind of reducing diet can take down your thyroid under the "right" conditions.

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on February 21, 2012
at 02:09 AM

How many carbs do you think would be a decent amount for someone just starting to diet?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 20, 2012
at 07:11 PM

"One of the effects of adrenaline and noradrenaline is to speed up the pulse rate. If Peat really does eat 400 g of carbs per day, predominantly from sucrose, then he may be achieving his high pulse rate from an “adrenaline rush” that helps dispose of an excess of fructose......" Jaminet's blog. Like I said quite a few other factors to consider, but a resting pulse of 70 doesn't in and of itself isn't an issue.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5152)

on February 21, 2012
at 01:44 AM

Nah, I'm thinking that it's not just hypothyroidism but autoimmunity in general. Consider that HT is mostly autoimmune to begin with. If VLCing ignites HT, then it's possible that other autoimmune conditions could piggyback. Sjogren's, RA, SLE, MS, etc. If you believe in leaky gut, then it's also very possible that VLCing could somehow be involved. For many patients, HT and psoriases are the first autoimmune conditions they contract -- then they move onto more serious conditions.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 21, 2012
at 01:32 AM

interesting. I got rid of Sjogren's through low carb.

7c2b34b8626dc30e40567283c4ad1e1c

(686)

on February 20, 2012
at 08:46 PM

Thanks for your opinion JayJay. My experience, coaching others, along with the work of Dr. Peat suggests otherwise.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5152)

on February 20, 2012
at 11:51 PM

I can guarantee you, neither Dr. B nor his devotees have any inkling of the possible thyroid and hormonal complications with their VLCing. If they did, (i) Dr. B would not be broadcasting his ignorance of the phenomenon possibly stemming from the very method he preaches; and (ii) his forums would at least discuss the issue from those afflicted with the problem. The one-size fits all VLCing does not work. When I succeeded with my weight loss and BG control, I thought the issue was strictly due to lack of implementation (read: discipline and dedication). That's absolutely true. So far we've

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5152)

on February 20, 2012
at 11:55 PM

only discussed hypothyroidism. Constipation is an epidemic among VLCers and the boards are full of people asking how to alleviate constipation. Dr. B himself has no answers for constipation. He's also not a "Paleo" so does not see the merit of being gluten-free or organic. Some people undoubtedly do well with VLC. However, I suspect many people will encounter complications and possibly worse afflictions than simple diabetes down the road. It is truly unfortunate.

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1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

on February 20, 2012
at 08:47 PM

I just want to add that since I stopped very low carbing my tsh numbers went down (they were in the low 3's before) and my psoriasis that I developed after going low carb is starting to disappear. It was great for the first 6 months/40 pounds or so but then I plateaued. I eat some soaked or sprouted gluten free grains like oats and kasha, potatoes, fruit, and even some sprouted spelt bread and I feel much better. Ie lost an additional 20 pounds Since adding some Carbs, and I have an easier time not snacking in between meals now.

That said, I think that lowering my carbs initially was good for me because I was a major carb addict before and just going cold turkey helped me retrain my Palate and calm down my cravings. I just wish I had trusted my Body enough to start reintroducing them before I started getting the psoriasis.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 20, 2012
at 11:35 PM

You should have tried brazil nuts first...

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on February 21, 2012
at 12:03 AM

I already eat brazil nuts and I always ate plenty of offal And shellfish.

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

(10904)

on February 21, 2012
at 12:06 AM

I should add that I've been breastfeeding for 15 months so it probably was silly of me to stay low Carb for so long.

C00e493393828df34be65ddc25456c7c

(610)

on February 20, 2012
at 11:44 PM

Since adding the carbs was able to lose 20 pounds. Don't know if the selenium in the brazil nuts would have did the same.

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80890193d74240cab6dda920665bfb6c

(1528)

on February 21, 2012
at 03:53 AM

A lot of the LEF crowd care about their telomeres. These folks both use cold and calorie restrict because they believe it will boost them beyond the 114 barrier. Ron Rosedale also endorses the low body temp idea for serious longevity - they're looking for 125-130. Kruse is a LEFfie, I'm pretty sure.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on February 22, 2012
at 07:07 PM

You'll be sure soon what I think and more familiar what I know now.

80890193d74240cab6dda920665bfb6c

(1528)

on February 27, 2012
at 06:06 AM

Quilty, I'm all down with Aubrey de Grey. If we can make another 30, death may be purely optional.

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B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on February 20, 2012
at 07:48 PM

wow! some of the comments at the end of the post are just wow :)

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Eead82aa93bbcdada0bcd817d0952e58

(214)

on April 26, 2012
at 01:13 PM

This is a somewhat old thread, but I thought I would break my lurking habit. I actually developed severe depression, Lupus, and hypothyroidism on the SAD low fat, mod (whole grain) carb, mod protein diet. I snowballed into Paleo through Schwarzbein who was the first to restrict my carbs (I also gave up gluten at the time) and in the last 3 years have felt best vlc as long as I have enough good fats to replace them. My biggest problem is getting ENOUGH fat- even now I am still squirrelly about it and the TYPE of fat makes all the difference as well.

I tried going back up to 100-120g a la Sisson for maintenance and felt no better energetically if not worse and was less satisfied because I had to cut down on fatty meats and fats in general in order to stay within my calorie limit and have those carbs- which actually just triggered cravings and compulsive eating (yes, just plain roasted sweet potatoes do this to me). As a side note- I put my lupus into remission doing this and now with proper thyroid treatment and vlc paleo my hypothyroid symptoms are gone. That said, I do not function well with the majority of my saturated fat being from animals- I found this out doing the Leptin reset where I felt disgusting, bloated, lethargic, depressed, and gained fat. I do intake a fair amount of coconut products, however, which really seems to be the key for me.

As I- and most people on PH say- it really is up to the individual. My metabolism was shot to hell and I am still healing it and my body so perhaps in 1-3 years when my n=1 is (hopefully) nearing completion I will be able to throw some more carbs in but for now I don't crave them and don't miss them and neither does my health apparently.

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8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 21, 2012
at 01:30 AM

I think he's either an idiot or just playing to his crowd. He admits not having read Kruse, wow, that sure shows. The quote is taken out of context.

D12142c8cafb16d9af10b3362cb8fb62

(1590)

on February 21, 2012
at 08:44 AM

Maybe if Kruse could write in English and not just make stuff up then more people would read his work.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 21, 2012
at 02:27 PM

I actually find their writing styles to be quite similar...

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 22, 2012
at 06:40 AM

jrac, that is a poor excuse for not doing the right homework. There is plenty of real stuff to challenge what Kruse writes. Why waste time on the stupid stuff?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 21, 2012
at 02:29 PM

And that is not a dig on either of them. Simply an observation.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 23, 2012
at 12:05 AM

..personally, I think it was mostly just the wheat

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 22, 2012
at 06:37 AM

hey, if you are going to slam someone, you should at least read a paragraph of his work first, not just a sentence.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5152)

on February 22, 2012
at 03:13 PM

Hey, Loon, you claim to have gotten rid of autoimmunity through low carbing. Wanna provide more details? What do you mean by that? Were you actually dxed with SSA or SSB? You are no longer positive for either SSA or SSB? Or is your # not elevated. Or do you mean u don't have symptoms anymore? I barely have any symptoms if I stick to hardcore Paleo (gluten/casein/dairy/egg/nut/nightshade free). But I'm still positive for SSA.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 23, 2012
at 12:05 AM

I haven't been tested for the full group since the original dx (lupus), but I had + thyroid and SSB. I get tested every once in awhile, mostly for RA-related factors or others like dsDNA that run with huge problems, but I have no symptoms of inflammation any more.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5152)

on February 23, 2012
at 03:07 PM

Well, did you not get retested for the antibodies: I mean TPO/TG, SSB/SSA, Double Strand, etc. Rheumies will test every time you visit. So ur saying u fixed it because u don't seem to have any more symptoms (inflammation)? how're your inflammation markers like CRP, ESR or Sed Rate, then?

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(8989)

on March 03, 2012
at 01:38 AM

Well, Nmaby Pamby, it seems like your autoimmune disorder is also affecting your mood. Of course I visited a doc and have all the proper tests each time. She says I don't have to come back anymore.

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(8989)

on March 03, 2012
at 01:40 AM

All markers of inflammation are lowered. People just want to be h8trs with the leptin reset.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on February 22, 2012
at 07:06 PM

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on February 23, 2012
at 12:48 AM

you would.......but i got lots of proof coming

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on February 23, 2012
at 07:31 PM

It would be an added bonus it your proof actually supported your claims too.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on February 23, 2012
at 07:41 AM

great, maybe this time you can actually footnote to some actual evidence

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on February 22, 2012
at 09:54 PM

I find the idea that homo sapiens are a cold-adapted species forged in the ice age absurd. I know Gedgaudas also promotes it. But genome scans for recent adaptations show that those for cold weather and arctic environments are very recent and not terribly well distributed in the human population.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on February 23, 2012
at 07:31 PM

It would be an added bonus it your proof actually supported your claims.

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