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Fight that PEAR.....sex hormones?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 24, 2012 at 9:37 PM

So I am looking for any advice or experiences people have had with "optimizing your sex steroid hormones exogenously" (The Quilt) - can someone help clarify what that means for me?

I am not getting anywhere with my efforts of body composition - I workout 3-5 times a week with HIIT, resistance training and cardio...I have been doing a lower body focus for the last couples months, because this is my biggest problem area. The results have been so disappointing...

If you were to see me naked..here is what you would see :

Upper body - defined abdominals, when flexed, clear "six pack" defined lats, deltoids shoulders etc..(looks like someone who works out and eats well)

Lower body - looks like i've been sitting around eating potato chips for the last 5 years.. ZERO definition in my legs and about 1-2 inches of pinch-able fat between my knees and hips.

It is so bizarre. NO matter how much weight i lift in my lower body i cannot stop my body from being very pear shaped.

So, I was reading around and from a response that The quilt wrote on another post of mine, fixing my sex hormones seems to be my problem??

I would appreciate ANY advice..

also, in prep for summer, cleaned out my diet, lowered carbs...lowered calories by a bit, and upped activity. I should be dropping these last few...but it is not happening..

Is this DHEA related? Is this cortisol ?

Thanks!

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 25, 2012
at 12:02 AM

Yeah, this is normal weight distribution for a female, because as we know ladies are keeping these pounds around for baby-making + the demands of breastfeeding post birth. In the case of a male, it is a different story. That is abnormal weight distribution.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 24, 2012
at 11:34 PM

You should ask a separate question because it's a totally different situation when a man has a body like this.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 24, 2012
at 11:20 PM

It's ok Melissa. Don't get your KNICKERS in a knot. I was only TEASING.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 24, 2012
at 10:49 PM

27 yrs old. will it get better with age?

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 24, 2012
at 10:35 PM

Age? That will make a difference.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 24, 2012
at 10:34 PM

Increasing DHA in the diet and decreasing fats that compete with it (mainly omega-6). You can do that through eating more seafood or supplements. I think the former works better though.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 24, 2012
at 10:13 PM

Also, Melissa when you "It could be possible, over a very long-term range in cell-turnover, that you can get enough %DHA in your body fat that your body doesn't feel the need to store so much total fat, since the theory is that your body is storing excessive amounts because your bodyfat so low in DHA as % that it needs to store more to prepare for childbearing." How does one do that? With Supplementing DHA? and increasing DHA in your diet?

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on March 24, 2012
at 10:01 PM

Melissa, thank you so much. i'll direct my question towards his forum. Your article is incredibly informative. thanks

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 24, 2012
at 10:00 PM

I said directed TOWARDs dr. kruse, meaning if you want HIS commentary on the subject, it would be a good idea to post it on his own forums.

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on March 24, 2012
at 09:59 PM

Melissa's comment is very important to understand. Many catwalk models have BMIs below 17. In a study of ballerinas, their BMI was 18-18.5. Neither of these groups had regular periods; they experienced irregular menses, late menarche, and the models suffered from amenorrhea. Yet studies also show that contemporary Western men prefer women with BMIs in the 18.5-19 range - that is, women with compromised fertility. Those women with the most regular periods and ease of conception, studies find, have BMIs at 22%. (Frisch RE. Body fat, menarche, fitness and fertility. Hum Reprod 1987;2:52.)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on March 24, 2012
at 09:58 PM

No doubt we should also post all our comments concerning Mark Sisson, Crossfit, P90X etc on their respective forums too? lol

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9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 24, 2012
at 09:50 PM

Wait, I'm assuming you are a woman right? If so, it has nothing to do with cortisol and everything to do with being a woman and the diet you ate during your development as a woman. I have a post about this that has a lot of good information. It could be possible, over a very long-term range in cell-turnover, that you can get enough %DHA in your body fat that your body doesn't feel the need to store so much total fat, since the theory is that your body is storing excessive amounts because your bodyfat so low in DHA as % that it needs to store more to prepare for childbearing.

However, people looking towards a paleo diet to get a "model" physique are going to have to contend with the fat that our paleolithic evolutionary heritage is exactly why that's hard. Your body is optimized for reproduction and for attractiveness to men, not for some modern "fashion model" ideal. Your body is fighting you because it's sub-optimal to not have nice gluteofermoral fat stores from an evolutionary standpoint. It's a lot more "paleo" than those fashioned-model bodies to be pear-shaped: fight-that-pear.....sex-hormones?

Also, all questions directed towards Dr. Kruse should really go to his forums.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 24, 2012
at 10:34 PM

Increasing DHA in the diet and decreasing fats that compete with it (mainly omega-6). You can do that through eating more seafood or supplements. I think the former works better though.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 24, 2012
at 10:00 PM

I said directed TOWARDs dr. kruse, meaning if you want HIS commentary on the subject, it would be a good idea to post it on his own forums.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 24, 2012
at 09:58 PM

No doubt we should also post all our comments concerning Mark Sisson, Crossfit, P90X etc on their respective forums too? lol

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on March 24, 2012
at 11:20 PM

It's ok Melissa. Don't get your KNICKERS in a knot. I was only TEASING.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on March 24, 2012
at 10:01 PM

Melissa, thank you so much. i'll direct my question towards his forum. Your article is incredibly informative. thanks

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on March 24, 2012
at 10:13 PM

Also, Melissa when you "It could be possible, over a very long-term range in cell-turnover, that you can get enough %DHA in your body fat that your body doesn't feel the need to store so much total fat, since the theory is that your body is storing excessive amounts because your bodyfat so low in DHA as % that it needs to store more to prepare for childbearing." How does one do that? With Supplementing DHA? and increasing DHA in your diet?

80890193d74240cab6dda920665bfb6c

(1528)

on March 24, 2012
at 09:59 PM

Melissa's comment is very important to understand. Many catwalk models have BMIs below 17. In a study of ballerinas, their BMI was 18-18.5. Neither of these groups had regular periods; they experienced irregular menses, late menarche, and the models suffered from amenorrhea. Yet studies also show that contemporary Western men prefer women with BMIs in the 18.5-19 range - that is, women with compromised fertility. Those women with the most regular periods and ease of conception, studies find, have BMIs at 22%. (Frisch RE. Body fat, menarche, fitness and fertility. Hum Reprod 1987;2:52.)

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518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on March 25, 2012
at 12:21 AM

This "pear shape" is preferential to the "apple shape", and represents the efficient storing of fat as a resource for developing a fetus, birthing, and meeting the feeding demands post-birth. It is a "tough area" for women, mostly because this is your body trying to hang onto these resources to make sure it has everything on hand just in case you get pregnant. This is healthy- being fertile is a great landmark for health in females. Becoming more "pear shaped" is also associated with age- as people age, they tend to gain a bit of weight every year, so it will accentuate the weight in the lower body. The very slow loss of elasticity in the skin can also change the appearance of hips/thighs and give the illusion of a thicker fat layer (might be part of the reason behind the 2 inches you can grab, past pubescence your skin just doesn't stick as tight to the body).

It is great that you are working out and doing a lot of strength training, so definitely don't feel like that is a "failure" because you still have a pear-shape! You are doing a lot of good to your body by keeping it fit :) Again, you holding on to a bit of extra weight just in these targeted areas is a tribute to how healthy you are- very strong, and able to carry a pregnancy to term if the need should arise! If it really does bug you, try the DHA suggestion- eat seafood every day, and a nice variety, see if that makes an impact. Might trick your body into letting this resource go a little. It is probably important to understand though, that a with a combination of female hormones and genetics (good to look at the other females in your family on both sides to get a gauge of this), you may always have a slight "pear shape", and that it is one of the healthiest shapes to have. Just prepare that you may only get to a certain point, and going past it may put your menses at risk and actually decrease your health overall. That being said, if you feel like there is room for improvement, I say go for it in trying the seafood to bump DHA.

If cellulite or veins (which may be pushed to the surface by the fat layer) bug you aesthetically, staying VERY well hydrated will improve the appearance of these areas. I'm always surprised by how much cellulite it suddenly looks like I have if I go a week without staying hydrated enough.

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on October 14, 2013
at 11:14 AM

The original post is very similar to what I have experienced. With the difference being I am male. Upper body description is similar, maybe not as exaggerated of lower body shape. Major emphasis is the excess around hips. 5'4" 135 lbs. Hip 36" waist 29. Can't seem to shake the hips. Eating 80/20 or a little better. Any suggestions for areas of research?

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on March 24, 2012
at 11:32 PM

What if the question asker were a male, because that post describes me perfectly (and I'm a guy)?

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on March 24, 2012
at 11:34 PM

You should ask a separate question because it's a totally different situation when a man has a body like this.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on March 25, 2012
at 12:02 AM

Yeah, this is normal weight distribution for a female, because as we know ladies are keeping these pounds around for baby-making + the demands of breastfeeding post birth. In the case of a male, it is a different story. That is abnormal weight distribution.

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