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Best Choice to get me cycling? PCOS history..

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 19, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Hello All,

I'm sorry to be a broken record about this topic (a couple posts recently), just not sure what to do...

I have come off the pill and started Bio-identical Progesterone in hopes of cycling naturally...but that was May--now almost end of July and no period.

I am not pregnant, and I really do not want to go back on the pill - but it might be my only option to have a period?

What do i do? Continue to wait and see if my body will ever cycle? Or just bite the bullet and go on a low dose pill?

What is safer? Is it dangerous to not be cycling like this?

I'm taking Lorna Vangerhaag Estrosense to balance hormones and i eat strict paleo, exercise 6 days per week ( i have a great coach/trainer/ strength training/walking etc) Diet and exercise are squared away... so I just dont know what else i should do that would put me in a healthy place of homeostasis to get my body/hormones to regulate...

Any Advice?

Thanks!

A3c56c85290f748410a6f340ddd552b3

(321)

on December 02, 2012
at 03:30 PM

Tangent warning! I really like your theory that we don't necessarily menstruate for a whole lifetime. I had read a while back about women who went through a war food shortage and lost their fertility for a decade just picked right up again when food was normal. So if they should have been fertile from 14-44, it turned into 14-26 and then 35-50. Really interesting!

E12ead3bf63c94b5b619b03722ef554f

on July 20, 2012
at 08:29 AM

It took me 14 months to regain a normal cycle (I have PCOS) after going off the pill. Dealing with other health issues and consulting a naturopathic doctor to detox and support my adrenals were key in restoring my fertility.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on July 19, 2012
at 11:10 PM

Too true Crowlover, we might have to resort to licking sheep for our vitamin D (just learned most D3 supps. are derived from from lanolin).

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on July 19, 2012
at 11:07 PM

Good to know Dragonfly, thank you. I saw Mercola's name floating around with the 2 day thing, which always makes me a little suspicious.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 19, 2012
at 10:10 PM

oh good. That makes more sense actually. Thanks

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on July 19, 2012
at 09:51 PM

Doubt that all of the D is washed off when showering, since it is produced in the deep epidermis and only some of it will surface (via sebum) to the outer layer.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 19, 2012
at 09:45 PM

well here in Seattle we don't have to worry too much now do we HappyNow? lol

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 19, 2012
at 09:43 PM

Oh GOOD!!!!! let us know. I hate how there is no easy way to follow up here

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on July 19, 2012
at 09:42 PM

Well, hells, I thought it was hours, but looks like it might take days to fully absorb all the D if this is to be believed. Showering without soaping up all of yourself, and just sticking to the stinky bits looks like the better plan in the days following sun exposure. http://www.triliumhealth.com/article.asp?ID=59&title=Showering%20after%20Sun%20Exposure%20Lowers%20Vitamin%20D%20Levels

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on July 19, 2012
at 09:27 PM

Wow! i did not know that at all! Thanks Happy Now. Im going to see a doctor this week so I will know more soon.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 19, 2012
at 09:26 PM

WOW. Good to know about the showering thing... why have I never heard this before? Thanks

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on July 19, 2012
at 09:26 PM

OK. Im booking an apt with a MD who specializes in Bios. Thanks so much. No Body fat is average. wish it was lower.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on July 19, 2012
at 07:33 PM

Also, the reason i am asking here, is becasue the doctors i have seen, to be polite, are useless, noone has given me a single helpful piece of advice other then.."try this and see"...

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on July 19, 2012
at 07:45 PM

Are you getting enough sun and supplementing with vitamin D? And are you making sure that you don't shower for at least 3-4 hours after being in the sun so the D in your skin can be absorbed? Vitamin D is supposed to make a big difference with fertility and PCOS. My cycle tends to get disregulated in the fall and winter if I don't do the ol' tanning bed thing, or really keep up on my D supps.

As far as any danger of not cycling regularly, modern women have 3-4 times the number of periods women did just centuries ago, due to earlier menarche, delayed menopause, and having fewer children. There is some thought that having that many periods can be stressful to the body, causing its own problems like increased inflammation, and even an increase in the chance of reproductive cancers due to the particular nature of the regenerative cells in the ovary and uterus. I tend to not like theories that think about women's reproductive organs as just something waiting to malfunction, but statistically the more cycling one does seems to give those cells an increased chance to go wonky if only because of rolling the dice more times. If you aren't ovulating, just like on birth control pills, you likely aren't developing an overly thick endometrium that would need to be shed monthly anyway. The monthly period on the pill is completely arbitrary, and because of anovulation, unnecessary, the developers of the pill just thought women would want a monthly period.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on July 19, 2012
at 11:07 PM

Good to know Dragonfly, thank you. I saw Mercola's name floating around with the 2 day thing, which always makes me a little suspicious.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on July 19, 2012
at 11:10 PM

Too true Crowlover, we might have to resort to licking sheep for our vitamin D (just learned most D3 supps. are derived from from lanolin).

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on July 19, 2012
at 09:42 PM

Well, hells, I thought it was hours, but looks like it might take days to fully absorb all the D if this is to be believed. Showering without soaping up all of yourself, and just sticking to the stinky bits looks like the better plan in the days following sun exposure. http://www.triliumhealth.com/article.asp?ID=59&title=Showering%20after%20Sun%20Exposure%20Lowers%20Vitamin%20D%20Levels

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 19, 2012
at 10:10 PM

oh good. That makes more sense actually. Thanks

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 19, 2012
at 09:26 PM

WOW. Good to know about the showering thing... why have I never heard this before? Thanks

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 19, 2012
at 09:45 PM

well here in Seattle we don't have to worry too much now do we HappyNow? lol

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on July 19, 2012
at 09:27 PM

Wow! i did not know that at all! Thanks Happy Now. Im going to see a doctor this week so I will know more soon.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32556)

on July 19, 2012
at 09:51 PM

Doubt that all of the D is washed off when showering, since it is produced in the deep epidermis and only some of it will surface (via sebum) to the outer layer.

A3c56c85290f748410a6f340ddd552b3

(321)

on December 02, 2012
at 03:30 PM

Tangent warning! I really like your theory that we don't necessarily menstruate for a whole lifetime. I had read a while back about women who went through a war food shortage and lost their fertility for a decade just picked right up again when food was normal. So if they should have been fertile from 14-44, it turned into 14-26 and then 35-50. Really interesting!

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Ecb90bbbd5a15868b2592d517a4a5e82

on July 19, 2012
at 08:59 PM

The expert on this is Dr. Michael Fox of Florida. He has been enormously successfully using very low-carb Paleo to get PCOS women cycling, pregnant, and delivering. He claims that he can get most PCOS women cycling with diet and that more than 40% of his patients can conceive and deliver healthy infants naturally. He seems to have a good record in restoring fertility.

The majority-type PCOS has an insulin-leptin component, altho' insulin-leptin is not the sole cause, since some autoimmune issues are also often involved. Depending on your cause, you should be able to lower your insulin, resolve your leptin, and heal your autoimmune to restore your cycle and have your fertility when/if you want to conceive.

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4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

on July 19, 2012
at 08:31 PM

I recommend you get a comprehensive female hormone panel (Labrix Labs, saliva is great).
No reason to guess at what is going on... better to find out. Also, it seems they should check your FSH level. How old are you?

Its possible (even if you are young) that you need some estrogen help too, to get back on track. Pregnenolone (pills by Allergy Research Group) would likely help too.

Mostly you really need a doctor (MD or ND) who does bio-identical hormone help, IMO.

Good luck.

EDIT: Is your body fat too low?

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on July 19, 2012
at 09:26 PM

OK. Im booking an apt with a MD who specializes in Bios. Thanks so much. No Body fat is average. wish it was lower.

4ef079c57d2140bba4dbf4e30240a645

(4413)

on July 19, 2012
at 09:43 PM

Oh GOOD!!!!! let us know. I hate how there is no easy way to follow up here

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Bd142c32b4055224d3191461f1f57520

on July 19, 2012
at 11:29 PM

I can give you my own personal story, which for the most part shows a rather wonky hormone panel: low Vit D, low Vit B, low testosterone, completely flipped cortisol levels, low DHEA and a l-methylfolate mutation. I've had PCOS symptoms for years. Working with these issues plus going VLC has been very helpful, but it does take time. Good luck and I hope you find a MD who can help!

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